And that wouldn’t happen if other programs didn’t want Franklin, so it’s actually a good thing.
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Harbaugh is lying to everybody. Another subpar (not exactly sure what that would be for Michigan these days as 3rd place in the Big10 seems to be par for that program) and he’s gone to the NFL if he gets an offer. Possibly even this year. Putting pen to paper means nothing. Making a definitive statement means nothing. If he leaves Michigan he has nothing to worry about. He just to people and his life moves on. These coaches don’t really seem to care.
The media and reports are a self-fulfilling circle jerk. One writer publishes a story about "top candidates" for a job which is based strictly on how in demand that coach is, their job performance, and their buyout being feasible for a team to overcome. The initial story isn't based on rumors that the school is interested in the coach or vice-versa. The die hard fans find the story and start to react online. Other media outlets then find the story either from the source or via the fan reactions and circulate it everywhere on the internet in order to get people to click on their own re-publishing of a story that they know people are interested in, to get those clicks and that precious ad revenue. Next the story progresses from one reporter's brainstormed list of possible job candidates in one paper to an internet wide rumor that the school wants to hire so and so as coach. The media with access to both programs endlessly ask questions of people in the programs so they can write new stories about their responses, only furthering the same rumors and pushing it farther and wider (and again more of that sweet, sweet ad revenue). Once that snowball is rolling there's no stopping it. I really hate the 24/7 news cycle sometimes.
I think that's probably what's happening here.
But, I also don't think it's inconceivable for Franklin to jump unexpectedly to a USC or even FSU (or Texas, if that were to open next year, for example). He has made it clear that he wants to win a title and wants the resources to get it done. Even if he gets an extension and some concessions on facilities/salaries during this go-around, it's hard to say whether this administration is willing to go the distance and match what the Ohio States and LSUs and Texas's are doing. And if that commitment isn't there.......well, programs that are willing to go the distance may look more attractive.
Not sure how much the social media negativity truly impacts him. And I'm not sure how much the dreadlocks incident, the death threats to Clifford, the Davey Jones second-guessing, etc. gets to him. That kind of shit is going to happen at any major program -- at least the negativity and second-guessing. But he's a human being, and no telling how he has internalized that stuff. If he has a feeling that he's not truly wanted here, then I wouldn't blame him for leaving. And nobody here truly knows where his mind is at on that.
Latest FL St booster rumor: Franklin to FSU to be announced next week. I have no idea if true. Just passing along. I do feel something is awry.
Every time the rumors swirl they seem to hit home vs Penn St. Leave it to Sandy B to botch this
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Yeah, who knows.
But the certainty with which some people here proclaim that he's not going anywhere doesn't really convince me. I think he's probably trying to leverage a deal for assistants and facilities here.......but we probably need to come to grips with the fact that him leaving (whether this year or beyond) is a very real possibility if he feels that this isn't the right environment for him.
A shame that dipshits on social media and elsewhere can create a false perception that he's not wanted here. Franklin is smart enough to know that you can't extrapolate based on the douchebaggery of a vocal minority. But no telling what he's hearing behind closed doors from boosters and others.
It just seems like he's been reacting to distracting events more so than usual. One just gets the sense that he's frustrated.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...ell-Brian-kelly-James-Franklin-USC-138875496/
I don't know the ultimate source of this, but it certainly doesn't suggest that FSU is going to get Franklin. Brian Kelly and Mike Norvell seem to be the names that come up the most.
I don't know the ultimate source of this, but it certainly doesn't suggest that FSU is going to get Franklin. Brian Kelly and Mike Norvell seem to be the names that come up the most.
Agreed re: his reacting to outside nonsense, it’s as if he’s building a story that it’s “not for him” and needs “corroborating facts.”
On the one hand, it may be calculated to give the impression that he's genuinely looking to leave as a way to strengthen his hand with Sandy.
On the other.....maybe he's just THAT beaten down for whatever reason.
We have absolutely no idea.
Many are assuming he's waging some Sun Tzu psychological strategy to gain leverage, particularly given his psych background. But that might be overthinking it. Time will tell.
If this is all genuine and he's really tired of it all, he better buckle up. Because it won't get any easier at FSU.
He’s not going to FSU. He claims he is about the student athlete and appears sincere. Their facilities aren’t any better and their fan support is much worse. I don’t buy the argument that he is tired of facing OSU.
Seems like the above poster made up the booster claim. More info from Noles 247:
“Per the report, FSU is expected to 'come up empty' on some of the bigger names in the search, including Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, Penn State's James Franklin, Iowa State's Matt Campbell, Kentucky'sMark Stoops, and Baylor's Matt Rhule.
FootballScoop did mention Brian Kelly of Notre Dame as a candidate who has "consistently hovered around the process."
“Per the report, FSU is expected to 'come up empty' on some of the bigger names in the search, including Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, Penn State's James Franklin, Iowa State's Matt Campbell, Kentucky'sMark Stoops, and Baylor's Matt Rhule.
FootballScoop did mention Brian Kelly of Notre Dame as a candidate who has "consistently hovered around the process."
As I said, it’s a rumor heard from a big FL St booster. No idea on validity. Seems serious. I hope not true. Also seems like there’s a lot of weird stuff being played out into the public forum, and JF radio silence on the matter of late. (I couldn’t believe no one asked him re: matter in latest presser!). We always end up eating these rumors turn to truth over the last 8 years. I am mentally preparing myself for bad news; would be nice to be wrong
While many grieve over this, Barron is probably deciding whether to pay up or add a wing to his museum
Really always. He has been rumored for other jobs since he got here and he is in his 6th year
And there’s just as many rumors that Matt Campbell is set to interview with FSU on Sunday. Doesn’t sound like a done deal to me
The Mark Stoops one raises my eyebrows the most its not like Kentucky is a football factory but maybe he is looking at it he can win 7/8 games a year have alot of job security. Stoops also coached at FSU before so he would know how AD operates he is not impressed.
Story that has been reported down here in FL is that Stoops was a secondary candidate, and he didn't want to be a backup plan, so he publicly withdrew his name from consideration.
So, you find it hard to believe that he is going to continue to act like he is the coach at PSU up until the minute he is not, whether that be next week, next year, or 10 years from now?
They should just give it to that assistant who is currently the interim and pay bigger bucks for coordinators. That method has worked for OSU, OU, and LSU over the past couple of years?
Easy man. I know a lot of people from all over. Just passing along what I heard directly. AGAIN, no idea if true. Just words out in the ether. Take with a grain of salt, but I for one feel that something is awry. Hope that Sandy is talking more $ into current program : coaching, and also talking to potential new coaches in the event JF bolts. Same color jerseys here, relax.
I find your statement completely plausible from a business perspective and I would not be the least be surprised to see this situation play out in that manner.
On the other hand, I also find it completely possible that CJF will make a decision to leave PSU and go elsewhere for some reasons that he may make public and for other reasons we will never know.
Do you accept that second possibility or are you "all in (100%)" on your version?
I LOVE JFF. I want him to stay at PSU for life. However, at some time, and I know he is playing the negotiating game, he needs to come out and say no to some of this shit. I believe another poster said.....him not saying anything is the equivalent of a player putting his name In the portal.
I could be wrong but I remember him saying 2 weeks ago maybe after the Minnesota game that hes in a good place...psu is where he wants to be etc...
I’m 100% in on my version. There’s no reason to believe he’s going anywhere. I’m tired of all the sports “experts” tying Franklin to every open job that comes around (and even some that aren’t open) yet he’s still here.
Welllll, obviously, it’s not the same. Coach James Franklin is still on the roster!
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This entire thread reeks of BS to me!
Just so I have this right.......
The coach who continually, constantly iterates1-0, 1-0, 1-0 on a daily basis is actively interviewing for a new gig, while the season is still going on?
I’m sorry, but I buy nothing in this entire thread!
Just so I have this right.......
The coach who continually, constantly iterates1-0, 1-0, 1-0 on a daily basis is actively interviewing for a new gig, while the season is still going on?
I’m sorry, but I buy nothing in this entire thread!
That’s just Dumbassery!
Do you really believe it’s the “Joebots” are the ones giving him crap.
Most of the people who like and want Joe honored ALSO like CJF.
Let me repeat that—— we Joebots love BOTH OF THEM !!
FSU fans are now expecting it to be Bob Stoops. Claiming Franklin is not a candidate.
Was looking at some of the posts on their premium board so I can't link them.
Was looking at some of the posts on their premium board so I can't link them.
Again, he’s not going to FSU but everyone feel free to keep spinning in circles with every tweet and message board post
I am a proud JoeBot and have never written or said a critical word about James Franklin. You are an idiot.
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