Please let Tomlin go
- Thread starter Norm Petersin
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What flow? The 3 and outs? yea great flow.
I'm not putting this all on Tomlin, IMO, there is equal share with the OL, Ben, Butler, The defense and especially Boswell, who cant kick the ball into the ocean at this point.
What a waste of money he is.
Is Ficken still available?
Not sure about the PC police, but if Tomlin admits that Ben was shot up with painkillers it will lead to a barrage of followup questions like, "What was the painkiller?" "What was the dose?" "Has anyone on the Steelers ever been given a higher dose?" "Why not just give him Advil?" etc.
Then the media would investigate and find cases where that pain killer had dire side effects. There would be headlines like "Steelers Jeopardize Ben's Life with Painkiller Injections" It would go on and on. Tomlin is savvy to sidestep the subject.
It's amazing how Boswell could go from being absolutely money in the past to this.
Thing is, the last two games were lost on the last play TRYING TO TIE THE GAME. There's no guarantee either game would have been won in overtime. Probably not if it came down to Bozo-well. Pathetic.What flow? The 3 and outs? yea great flow.
I'm not putting this all on Tomlin, IMO, there is equal share with the OL, Ben, Butler, The defense and especially Boswell, who cant kick the ball into the ocean at this point.
What a waste of money he is.
Is Ficken still available?
I have no faith in Boswell at all. After that I have no faith in The Steeler defense being able stop them when it counts.
They left way too much time on the clock when Ben marched them down the field. They shouldn't assume the defense will make a stop to end the game anymore.
Offensive line --no
I thought this was supposed to be the best OL in the NFL? The Raiders had the lowest rated d-line in the league.
I know they still have a starter out but they were horrible yesterday.
McCarthy....really?
Tomlin give up that last touchdown?
It’s amazing how nobody mentions this. Raiders were dead last I believe in rushing. Steelers as a team had 10 carries for 6 yards. That’s on the OL. It has been bad for the past few games.
Tomlin is savvy to sidestep a subject you completely made up, so that he could avoid the made up scenario of reporters' questions about your made up subject? Holy crap, you're reduced to mental contortionism in order to defend Tomlin's idiocy, aren't you?
I'm not a Tomlin fan. I was just trying to make the point that coaches would be stupid to get into the details of how their trainers treat the pain involved with injuries. James Franklin is in the same boat. He will never talk about pain treatment.
Except that Ben's comments reflect something totally different. Read between the lines - Ben was pissed.
Tomlin could have absolutely said "we were giving Ben some time to make sure he was ready to go back in". And Ben could have said "we were giving it some time to be sure I was ready to go."
But they didn't. Tomlin blew it. Again.
That was my guess as well. Dobbs wasn't very good, I thought maybe they should give the other kid a series or 2.
Their back up RB's are exactly that, backups. They are good for giving the Starter a breather but they aren't going to win many games with them as the feature RBs.
Dobbs awfulness probably surprised them. I thought Steelers play calling was lacking as well.
Exactly. Tomlin should know that his defense is not going to hold a 1 score game.
I don't understand why Tomlin has not gotten another kicker before this point in the season. How many games does Boswell have to not show up for before Tomlin makes a switch? Seems to me that Tomlin has changed kickers in the past for lesser drops in performance. Maybe it's Boswell's contract and the salary cap.....
He should. His DB are awful and haven’t improved at all they play soft coverage, play way off receivers.
Artie Burns has no business being in a NFL Game, but TB keeps putting him in certain situations.
They haven't been able to draft a safety or CB since Troy P.
As for the DB's. Wasn't that Bradlely's M.O. at PSU? I know everyone said it was Joe's fault but maybe thats the way Bradley wanted them to play.
I don't know what exactly happened with him while at WVU but I don't think he was that great there and he stunk at UCLA. Maybe the game has passed (no pun intended) him by.
They have addressed this need in the draft. Both Burns and Edmunds were first round picks. They also signed Hilton and Haden. People ignore that.
Anyways, I believe TB style of coaching isn’t for this style of football that is played now. Teams are throwing more.
They've addressed it, JMO, haven't done a very good job of it. But then I don't like their picks at LB'r either.
Haden was a nice pickup.
Yea I didn't mean to dump it all on Bradley.
Frankly I thought Tomlin fired the wrong Co-Ordinator last year. I wasn't a huge fan of Haley but I thought Butler was worse and and I don't think he's any better this season. Plus I really don't like a lot of their players on defense.
Their two starting safeties have a total of 0 interceptions between them, Hilton the nickle safety has one and Edmunds the backup SS has one.
Artie Burns has been a complete bust. And they used high draft picks to get guys like Edmunds, Burns, and Davis.
Its probably just me but I never liked the idea of trying to burn more time when you are on your final drive.
I understand why but just feel its more important to get the TD or FG and then have your defense stop them...oh wait there's the flaw in my logic its the Steeler defense thats the issue.
Perhaps they could have run the ball picking up 4 yards at a clip in between a few of those throws? Wouldn't that have burned up some time Coach Barry? After all, they have the best offensive line in football. Or so I've been told.
Not the way the OL was playing or the RB's.
Maybe they should have had Dobbs just run. He certainly can't pass or at least he couldn't yesterday.
I should have said 1 yard at a clip. At that, it still would have taken time off the clock as the Raiders had no time outs.
Understood. But as a coach, Tomlin should go into the game understanding his defense is a liability and should be kept off the field as much as possible. It's what good coaches do. Adjust to their teams weaknesses.
Do you remember the old "run and shoot" offenses? They would score a ton of points really quickly. Unfortunately, that meant the defense was on the field the majority of the the game and would get gassed. By the end of the year, the defense would have nothing left in the tank.
There needs to be more of a balance to keep the defense (secondary) off the field. Either way, this team may not even make the playoffs with the schedule they are facing. They got lucky with Baltimore losing.
Unfortunately the Steeler's weaknesses, ie. poor secondary, poor special teams are hard to avoid at the end of the game.
This is the second week in a row the special teams lost the Steelers a game. Last week they gave up a punt return.
And Boswell cost them the win against Cleveland.
There are three main reasons Steelers lost in order of importance.
1. Ben got hurt, if he plays the whole game the Steelers win easily.
2. The secondary is bad, absolutely terrible and a real disappointment considering how much they invested in this group.
3. Boswell. Going 0-2 for field goals inside 40 yards is unacceptable for a high school kicker let alone a pro making $5 million a year to do nothing but kick the ball.
And the field conditions are no excuse. Unless they are playing in a monsoon or blizzard or in the mud bowl, Boswell needs to make those kicks.
If Boswell makes one of them the Steelers probably win in overtime because with Ben they are a better team than the Raiders. If he makes both the game likely would have been out of reach.
I can't argue that at all. The game shouldn't have been close. I was a Tomlin guy up until late last year, but the only common thing over the years with the team playing down to their opponents, win or lose, is him. Players and assistant coaches have come and gone, yet it still happens.
