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Ironic that if he just got a prescription for it and he would have been fine. Also, if it had been in town vs. on campus it would have been a summary offense.Apparently he was arrested and charged with misdemeanor possession.
Ironic that if he just got a prescription for it and he would have been fine. Also, if it had been in town vs. on campus it would have been a summary offense.
True, but it happened on campus where possession is a misdemeanor and perhaps the police cut him a break being that DUI would have made it 2 misdemeanors.Not totally true. He could be cited if the pot was in close reaching distance or if he was driving under the influence. Surprised he wasnt cited for that, although many local police departments and the State Police may let you off or give you some other type of minor citation for pot.
This is why there are "peaceful" demonstrations.
There is no way to substantiate this other than the police officer's word; they simply could make it up. And, why do we want to put a substantial impediment on this kid's, or any kid's, record for something that cannot be substantiated in court and is legal in at least 11 states?
- "Police Detected the Odor of MJ coming from his car"
- "Observed red, glassy eyes and the odor of MJ on his breath"
- found a "pink tinted plastic Pill bottle containing a trace of MJ"
Seriously? Guy does something wrong and illegal and blame the police? One thing if he’s walking around, but he was operating a vehicle.This is why there are "peaceful" demonstrations.
There is no way to substantiate this other than the police officer's word; they simply could make it up. And, why do we want to put a substantial impediment on this kid's, or any kid's, record for something that cannot be substantiated in court and is legal in at least 11 states?
- "Police Detected the Odor of MJ coming from his car"
- "Observed red, glassy eyes and the odor of MJ on his breath"
- found a "pink tinted plastic Pill bottle containing a trace of MJ"
I like cops, I've spent a lot of time around cops, I've been drinking buddies with cops. Knowing cops and how they work, if I'm on a jury, I wouldn't ever trust a cop's word for anything because lying is just a tool to them.
They use little lies all the time to facilitate stops and searchers. You crossed a white line, you had your high beams on etc. The "odor of marijuana" story is incredibly convenient because it justifies a search. It's so often a lie that some jurisdictions don't allow it because it is impossible to prove or disprove. And planting a little bit of pot in the car -- if you've spent any time around vice units and gang units, you know it is very, very common.
Not that Wilson is innocent but I wouldn't take a cop's word for it. Hopefully his family can afford a decent lawyer. Unless he was demonstrably driving badly, this should get thrown out.
Why would they "make it up"?? Every arrest carries with it pain-in-the-arse paperwork, court appearances, etc.This is why there are "peaceful" demonstrations.
There is no way to substantiate this other than the police officer's word; they simply could make it up. And, why do we want to put a substantial impediment on this kid's, or any kid's, record for something that cannot be substantiated in court and is legal in at least 11 states?
- "Police Detected the Odor of MJ coming from his car"
- "Observed red, glassy eyes and the odor of MJ on his breath"
- found a "pink tinted plastic Pill bottle containing a trace of MJ"
They do all the time. At least here in Cleveland. Many promotions are based on your bust recordWhy would they "make it up"?? Every arrest carries with it pain-in-the-arse paperwork, court appearances, etc.
They do all the time. At least here in Cleveland. Many promotions are based on your bust record
I am intimately familiar with dozens of cases where the police and/or prosecutors lied. They get off Scott free. They drag the case out for years so you can’t get employed and threaten more charters like obstruction, resisting or assault on an officer. And man, those body cams are finicky; go on and off all the time but always in favor of the cop.Seriously? Guy does something wrong and illegal and blame the police? One thing if he’s walking around, but he was operating a vehicle.
You should fix your quote also as the words in quotes in the article do not use “trace”. I hope that wasn’t intentional on your part.
Btw, they could substantiate it with the bottle found if they so desired.
I’m just glad it appears young Mr. Wilson was fully cooperative with the police. Adhere to the legal and potential team punishment and be done with it .
I get your pointYea but you are missing the point.
Whether or not he will get off, he wont be operating a vehicle high and potentially killing someone.
The decision matrix of the officers is pretty simple.
1. Walk away and he potentially kills himself or another.
2. Make an arrest of which the charges will likely be dropped.
They did the latter.
LdN
Why would they "make it up"?? Every arrest carries with it pain-in-the-arse paperwork, court appearances, etc.
Have to add that we are assuming they really smelled stuff and his eyes were red. They have to justify the stop; named terry stops. This is the law used to pull over black kids in white neighborhoods. If they don’t satisfy terry laws are subject to civil suitsYea but you are missing the point.
Whether or not he will get off, he wont be operating a vehicle high and potentially killing someone.
The decision matrix of the officers is pretty simple.
1. Walk away and he potentially kills himself or another.
2. Make an arrest of which the charges will likely be dropped.
They did the latter.
LdN
Have to add that we are assuming they really smelled stuff and his eyes were red. They have to justify the stop; named terry stops. This is the law used to pull over black kids in white neighborhoods. If they don’t satisfy terry laws are subject to civil suits
Exactly. Smoke at home. I don’t want innocent people including kids killed by selfish people who put their feelings ahead of the law.Yea but you are missing the point.
Whether or not he will get off, he wont be operating a vehicle high and potentially killing someone.
The decision matrix of the officers is pretty simple.
1. Walk away and he potentially kills himself or another.
2. Make an arrest of which the charges will likely be dropped.
They did the latter.
LdN
I like cops, I've spent a lot of time around cops, I've been drinking buddies with cops. Knowing cops and how they work, if I'm on a jury, I wouldn't ever trust a cop's word for anything because lying is just a tool to them.
They use little lies all the time to facilitate stops and searchers. You crossed a white line, you had your high beams on etc. The "odor of marijuana" story is incredibly convenient because it justifies a search. It's so often a lie that some jurisdictions don't allow it because it is impossible to prove or disprove. And planting a little bit of pot in the car -- if you've spent any time around vice units and gang units, you know it is very, very common.
Not that Wilson is innocent but I wouldn't take a cop's word for it. Hopefully his family can afford a decent lawyer. Unless he was demonstrably driving badly, this should get thrown out.
Oh that’s easy:I wonder how this thread would have evolved if the young man played for OSU, Michigan, or Pitt.
I wouldn’t have responded at all I’ve seen more than my share of these kinds of arrests to understand how damaging they are for everyoneI wonder how this thread would have evolved if the young man played for OSU, Michigan, or Pitt.
I have no doubt that is true. There are some, though, that are quick to judge kids from other programs while attempting to explain away incidents involving our own.I wouldn’t have responded at all I’ve seen more than my share of these kinds of arrests to understand how damaging they are for everyone
We'll all drink to record busts...They do all the time. At least here in Cleveland. Many promotions are based on your bust record
Are you familiar with how many times a late teen/early 20 something partook in smoking some weed?I am intimately familiar with dozens of cases where the police and/or prosecutors lied.
"I am intimately familiar with dozens of cases where the police and/or prosecutors lied."i love 95% of cops but know they get caught up sometimes.
You mentioned lie in the first quote above. I already replied to you once that the article did not use the word trace in quotes as you claimed. Neither did the writer of either article linked in this thread use the word trace. Being you decided to again use the word trace, I can only deduce that you are lying on purpose to try and support your view.A trace of MJ?
He is lucky he didnt get a DUI.
https://wjactv.com/news/local/compl...ed-with-drug-possession-from-feb-traffic-stop
I like cops, I've spent a lot of time around cops, I've been drinking buddies with cops. Knowing cops and how they work, if I'm on a jury, I wouldn't ever trust a cop's word for anything because lying is just a tool to them.
They use little lies all the time to facilitate stops and searchers. You crossed a white line, you had your high beams on etc. The "odor of marijuana" story is incredibly convenient because it justifies a search. It's so often a lie that some jurisdictions don't allow it because it is impossible to prove or disprove. And planting a little bit of pot in the car -- if you've spent any time around vice units and gang units, you know it is very, very common.
Not that Wilson is innocent but I wouldn't take a cop's word for it. Hopefully his family can afford a decent lawyer. Unless he was demonstrably driving badly, this should get thrown out.
This is why there are "peaceful" demonstrations.
There is no way to substantiate this other than the police officer's word; they simply could make it up. And, why do we want to put a substantial impediment on this kid's, or any kid's, record for something that cannot be substantiated in court and is legal in at least 11 states?
- "Police Detected the Odor of MJ coming from his car"
- "Observed red, glassy eyes and the odor of MJ on his breath"
- found a "pink tinted plastic Pill bottle containing a trace of MJ"
He should have had that COCONUT spray handy to mask the smell.
Rookie!
Fair enough. I don’t know anything about this case. But my experience with police sets off my spidy senses. Why pull him over? Why write him up for next to nothing.I respectfully disagree. Wether or not you agree or disagree about MJ being legalized, fact is that right now it is not legal in PA. What you are implying is that the police officer making the arrest falsified information to make the arrest. I think I disagree with both of these points you have taken on this subject.