if Cael told him he was wrestling then changed his mind well that's just wrong on Caels part!Didn’t Nolf wrestle a couple of matches though?
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if Cael told him he was wrestling then changed his mind well that's just wrong on Caels part!Didn’t Nolf wrestle a couple of matches though?
And, thus, he’s justified in quitting on his team.So why would hundreds of his supporters show up expecting him to wrestle..... only to be treated to two Forfeits??? Why would Carter be pissed if he was told this was going to be the way it was??? Why would Carter leave College Park and not be there for the remainder of Tournament and trophy presentation??? Given how this has played out, it's rather ridiculous to claim that Carter was not led to believe he would be allowed to compete.
Not really. Coaches change minds all the time.if Cael told him he was wrestling then changed his mind well that's just wrong on Caels part!
I agree with your assessment. Furthermore, as the emotions of the moment subside and his teammates talk with him, he will realize that his judgment was impaired by emotion if he in fact said he was done wrestling at PSU.Not really. Coaches change minds all the time.
You all are really taking this too seriously. A guy got his feelings hurt and is pouting. Whether he comes back or doesn’t come back only impacts him from here on out.
Amazing that NCAA champ/3x finalist Nico never won B10s.Davis is PSU’s first conference champ at 125 since Jeremy Hunter in 1999.
Ayala vs Davis for seeding
H2H Ayala 25
RPI Ayala 10
Coaches Rank Ayala 10
Conference placement Davis 15
Win % Davis 10
Results against common TBD
Quality wins TBD
Not saying Ayala will be seeded higher but it will be close.
Even if the team doc cleared Carter, Cael still has ultimate say. They can not over rule each other.I would question this statement. Team physicians dictate concussion returns. Currently an ex football team doctor is suing James Franklin and Penn State for not following proper procedure.
I think Cael looked at the big picture and Carter was living for the moment.
I believe if this past weekend was NCAAs Carter wrestles and Cael would of had no issue with that.
Amazing that NCAA champ/3x finalist Nico never won B10s.
I think Hamiti was pinned. Rivera was a shade late getting there. Rivera got down to look in one position, then they shifted and blocked his view.Here’s what you guys have been waiting for! Byers going nuts! Love it!
Mitchell Mesenbrink vs Dean Hamiti(Wisconsin) - 165 LBS Full Match, with the Jeff Byers Call
I think Tull was kiddingNot really. Coaches change minds all the time.
You all are really taking this too seriously. A guy got his feelings hurt and is pouting. Whether he comes back or doesn’t come back only impacts him from here on out.
That was awesome. Mitchell put up 36 points against 2 of the top 165s on back to back matches, and gets a ‘How do you do’ from Byers. 🥳Here’s what you guys have been waiting for! Byers going nuts! Love it!
Mitchell Mesenbrink vs Dean Hamiti(Wisconsin) - 165 LBS Full Match, with the Jeff Byers Call
I think Tull was kidding
Exactly right. There is zero upside to Carter's current stance, both short term and long term. It's a decision I might have made at 21 too in the heat of the moment so I cut some slack, and hopefully Cael will too. That isn't a given though. Cael must retain control while negotiating with Carter. Carter is going to need to bend here, and not the other way around.Hard to believe this thread regarding Carter is still going. It's up to the athlete? That's laughable. Who's running the program now? The athletes? No. Cael has the final word. Some of y'all act like coaches don't sit players.
IMO, no way in hell does Carter walk away. If he does, it might be the worst decision I've ever seen an athlete make. However, it's his decision. It will also change how people view him in the wrestling and PSU world forever.
Better yet, the caps 5 minute utf montage…I will pay the Ferrari’s asking price to attend Iowa if MM would walk out to this soundtrack Saturday night in KC
That was awesome. Mitchell put up 36 points against 2 of the top 165s on back to back matches, and gets a ‘How do you do’ from Byers. 🥳
Yeah, although Hamiti gave up a takedown in the last few seconds of the 2nd period that may have indicated he was getting low on gas.I've seen it three times now and it's remarkable how good Hamiti looked early (through 2) and how thoroughly broken he was after the final takedown and back points. Aside from the fact that it's so fun for the PSU fans, that was really a big training moment for Mesenbrink as well.
My thought as well. He gave up that TD way too easy and without a lot of fight for being so close to the end of the period. His last burst of energy was used on the reversal and then he was cooked.Yeah, although Hamiti gave up a takedown in the last few seconds of the 2nd period that may have indicated he was getting low on gas.
and….he can’t train into that kind of pace in 10 days. None of them can. Many tried vs Nolf and Taylor. Some even bragged they could.My thought as well. He gave up that TD way too easy and without a lot of fight for being so close to the end of the period. His last burst of energy was used on the reversal and then he was cooked.
I think it's well known by now that pace is a big issue when wrestling MM. Guys like KOT are going to want to get into hand fighting and tieups to drain the clock. Only the very best can actually succeed in doing that, and they also have to be great defensively. Basically they need to change their name to Kyle Dake.and….he can’t train into that kind of pace in 10 days. None of them can. Many tried vs Nolf and Taylor. Some even bragged they could.
Still would have been 11-10 Hamiti (12-10 after MM would have cut him) with MM getting the last 2 TDs (kinda 3 if you count the reversal) in relatively quick fashion with over a minute left.He should have never tried to roll. Gave up 3 NF and didn’t need too.
and….he can’t train into that kind of pace in 10 days. None of them can. Many tried vs Nolf and Taylor. Some even bragged they could.
LOL that's a complete joke!Ayala should be the 1 seed IMO
LOL only Carter knows his health and Cael does do things a little diff than most Carter said he was healthy then I am sure he could wrestle!Would have liked to been on the room when Cael told him!Not really. Coaches change minds all the time.
You all are really taking this too seriously. A guy got his feelings hurt and is pouting. Whether he comes back or doesn’t come back only impacts him from here on out.
I took it that it was indeed a joke, the #1 seed at 125 is always doomed this year.LOL that's a complete joke!
Not sure the issue is "was he healthy or wasn't he"? He clearly was ready to go and appeared to have been pulled at the last minute. Was that Cael, Medical, or PSU Admin? I'm guessing that Cael would have made the call a lot earlier than that...I'm with Cael. nice job balancing team goals and individual goals. Winning the BIGS was never in doubt. Carter's points weren't needed, rest your horse for the big show. Who in the 174 bracket did he have to man up too. To Carter, go wrestle in KC and get your forth.
The only thing that would throw a kink in things would be if Carter was a healthy scratch in KC. that would get things going on this board.
The least trustworthy guy in the conversation is the athlete. They will always say GO if they have a pulse.LOL only Carter knows his health and Cael does do things a little diff than most Carter said he was healthy then I am sure he could wrestle!Would have liked to been on the room when Cael told him!