2021 NCAAs Session 4 (Fri Eve.) Thread

[psudsl08]

Kirk will be stronger, heavier and in better condition next year, and will finish the bulk of those shots.

 

[bigs22]

Gable is something else. Cassioppi is real good and he’s not even in the ballpark.

 

[PSUcup1]

Kirk will be stronger, heavier and in better condition next year, and will finish the bulk of those shots.

absolutely !

 

[Larryrise]

I think the only thing separating Greg from the top 5 or 6 is savvy, and mostly weight. He's simply too light at this point. Next year maybe if he can put on 15 or 20 pounds he can narrow the gap...not on Steveson, but on the other 5 or so ahead of him right now.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[PAgeologist]

Beard and Kerk both seemed to hit a wall with stamina in these matches. Tough wrestling with not much break in between. Kerk actually wrestled a wall in Schultz. He's huge.

Both AAs as freshmen though. Go grab 7th, get healthy, get stronger, come out firing next year.

 

[pabison]

Those last two matches were a real downer. Kerkvliet has a ton of ability, but his folkstyle tactics aren't there yet. He has to learn you can't shoot straight on with these big guys and have all of that weight on you. We all knew his bottom wrestling was going to be lacking with his freestyle emphasis. The stall call and subsequent point for backing off the mat...inexcusable. A full year healing up and getting healthy, plus time in the room should fix his issues. Beard just looked gassed all day long. The stamina just doesn't seem to be there for a long tourney. Both kids scored us points though, which I'm grateful for and AA'd; Iowa didn't runaway with it today like some had thought.

On a separate note, I hope Brooks' ankle is OK. That's a heck of a thing to have the match in hand and then he tweaks the ankle in the last few seconds.

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Ferrari reminds me of PD3...

Ya know...without the Bud heavies and water bongs.

Ferrari is great, but... we will be hearing for the next 12 months (from him) how he will be a 5x'er. That is until Braxton Amos takes him out next year. Book it, you heard it here first.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[nitlion6]

Cael>Brands

This should never ever be argued again...

It is only argued in a single psych ward. Psychos hR Us.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[PSUcup1]

I think the only thing separating Greg from the top 5 or 6 is savvy, and mostly weight. He's simply too light at this point. Next year maybe if he can put on 15 or 20 pounds he can narrow the gap...not on Steveson, but on the other 5 or so ahead of him right now.

Id say it’s strength not weight. He’s probably heavier than Cassar was. Still impressive what he did coming off injury

 

[Larryrise]

Probably retweeked the same ankle from the BIG 10

Yeah I don't think it will be the issue between winning and losing tomorrow night...if he wrestles his match he will win against Hidlay

 

[pish69]

Congrats to the boys tonight! Go get em tomorrow!


Super proud to be a fan of this team

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

GK v. Schultz (ASU)

Handfighting to begin, GK on a single, and TD 2-0. Schultz up and out, OOB, 2-1. GK shoots another single, fended off and countered, TD Schultz on the edge. 3-2, then OOB. 1:29 left. Restart and GK rolls puts pressure on Schultz and gets R2, 4-3. Schultz escapes, 4-4, :49. GL shoots for single again, countered and TD Schultz. 7-4. Missed a point somewhere?

Schultz takes bottom. Out quick, 8-4. GK shoots for another single, Schultz locked
on the waist, GK steps over leg, but Schultz get out then circles around for another TD. 10-4, Schultz. End of 2nd. 58 RT for Schultz.

GK ttaks bottom. GK out with 1:45 left. 10-5. Go shoots another singles and is able to finish for the TD. 10-7. Let's him up and back on it attack. SW Schultz, but he counters for a TD, 13-7. GK out, 13-8. With RT, 14-8, Schultz. GK will wrestle for 7th.

Didn't see Kerk's match, but sounds like there was a good bit of sloppiness.

 

[dmm53]

3 teams still mathematically alive:

Team	Points	Maximum Potential Points	# SF	# F	# Cons 4 (Rd of 12)	# Cons 5 (All Amer.)	# Cons Semi	# 7th-8th
Team Standings
Iowa	109​	155.5​	5​	3​	4​	2​	3​	1​
Penn State	94.5​	124.5​	4​	4​	3​	2​	​	2​
Oklahoma State	86.5​	127​	3​	2​	4​	3​	3​	1​

 

[Larryrise]

Id say it’s strength not weight. He’s probably heavier than Cassar was. Still impressive what he did coming off injury

Agree but again comparing anyone to Cassar is somewhat difficult...Strength and weight should go hand in hand. Cassar was a unique freak in terms of strength

 

[Cali_Nittany]

4th session stats:

Overall score 52-24

Takedowns 15-8

Reversals 1-0

2 NF 2-0

4 NF 1-0

RT 6-0

ST 1-1

Escapes (Normalcy returns)
5-17

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Flying_Tiger]

That was the douchiest celebration of all time by Ferrari

He graduated from the Johny Hendricks school of celebration.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Strength training for both Beard and Kerkvliet. Their future is bright.

Let's mix in a healthy dose of cardio and endurance training, particularly for Beard.

 

[PAgeologist]

Gable is something else. Cassioppi is real good and he’s not even in the ballpark.

I don't know if Gable took a match off, if you can call it that, but he didn't seem to want anything to do with Kerk on their feet. He didn't show Cass the same respect.

A full size and healthy Kerk against Gable would be a fantastic match.

 

[dsites52]

Those last two matches were a real downer. Kerkvliet has a ton of ability, but his folkstyle tactics aren't there yet. He has to learn you can't shoot straight on with these big guys and have all of that weight on you. We all knew his bottom wrestling was going to be lacking with his freestyle emphasis. The stall call and subsequent point for backing off the mat...inexcusable. A full year healing up and getting healthy, plus time in the room should fix his issues. Beard just looked gassed all day long. The stamina just doesn't seem to be there for a long tourney. Both kids scored us points though, which I'm grateful for and AA'd; Iowa didn't runaway with it today like some had thought.

On a separate note, I hope Brooks' ankle is OK. That's a heck of a thing to have the match in hand and then he tweaks the ankle in the last few seconds.

Considering Kerk was done for the year, what, 6 weeks ago? He’s gonna be fine.

 

[ac98]

It’s great that Steveson loves wrestling, but the way he moves makes me think he could be another Aaron Donald

 

[pabison]

Considering Kerk was done for the year, what, 6 weeks ago? He’s gonna be fine.

I'm pretty sure that's what I said ...or do you only choose certain parts of a comment to read???

 

[dsites52]

I'm pretty sure that's what I said ...or do you only choose certain parts of a comment to read???

Yeah, dude. It was a really long post, and I’m half a case of yuengs in...

 

[PSUcup1]

It’s great that Steveson loves wrestling, but the way he moves makes me think he could be another Aaron Donald

my thoughts as well

 

[royboy]

It’s great that Steveson loves wrestling, but the way he moves makes me think he could be another Aaron Donald

Carlton Haselrig redux.

 

[dmm53]

Penn State guys will be slight underdogs in two of the finals (133 and 141).

A pretty big underdog in the 3rd (174).

And a slight favorite in the 4th (184).

Iowa will be super big favorites in 1 (125); a clear favorite in a second (174); and a slight favorite in a 3rd (141).

Be realistic; demand the impossible.

 

[pabison]

Yeah, dude. It was a really long post, and I’m half a case of yuengs in...

Fair enough. Cheers!

 

[KK11]

Kerk needs to hit the weights man

yes he does.... injury not withstanding

??? I thought he was a lock for 3rd. I''m sure I read it here.

 

[PSU_522]

??? I thought he was a lock for 3rd. I''m sure I read it here.

I thought you guys were a lock for having 10 finalists and setting an all time scoring record?

 

[loyalandtrue2]

Maybe you can try some PBP ?? Instead of sitting there, being critical.

I did the last two Kerk matches.

I know it's hard. Wasn't trying to be critical, just offering a suggestion to help out others. Tom has been great and I'm appreciative of his PBP.

 

[a_mshaffer]

Kerk seems overwhelmed by the weight on top of him on the bottom... u can fix that....

 

[nerfstate]

Kerk seems overwhelmed by the weight on top of him on the bottom... u can fix that....

Being a volume shooter at that weight class has its drawbacks. I believe he’ll figure it out.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

PSUers wrestling on Saturday:

133 Final: RBY vs. Daton Fix (Okla. St.)

141 Final: Nick Lee vs. Jaydin Eierman (Iowa)

174 Final: Carter Starocci vs. Michael Kemerer (Iowa)

184 Final: Aaron Brooks vs. Trent Hidlay (North Carolina St.)

197 7th Place Match: Michael Beard vs. Stephen Buchanan (Wyoming)

285 7th Place Match: Greg Kerkvliet vs. Tate Orndorff (Ohio State)

 

[nerfstate]

Holy Cow, Orndorf made AA?

 

[GogglesPaizano]

my thoughts as well

I have been asking the how did he get passed by for football for the past 2 years. Sure he is in a class by himself in wrestling, but.....

Then again, all linemen need to be 300 lbs+ these days and most are 6' 4". Even if he gained to 280 on that frame he would be undersized. Maybe a linebacker? He is a pretty amazing athlete, but who knows if he is a sub 5.0 40 guy.

 

[pish69]

I know I’ll get ridiculed for saying this but I don’t care. I’m an AJ Ferarri fan. I’ll root for him against anyone but PSU.

A lot of people clowning him for his antics but this kid is a hammer on top, fast and when he shoots he goes hard.

Super impressed