PIAA approves fall sports guidelines. No fans!
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I think this is softening the blow of no season. I hope not.I hope they play.
But it’s still early. Not gonna hold my breath.
Football players should keep their mouth guards in their mouth throughout competition. If removed, it should be disinfected before reinsertion.
This alone should be fun to enforce.
My daughter will be a senior tennis player. A sport that should really have no issues as a result of this virus so long as a few adjustments are made. Word on the street is that football parents are already planting the seed that if they can't play, no sport should play because you know that wouldn't be "fair". Parents are the worst, especially high school football parents who can't seem to realize that their kids aren't going to the NFL.
My daughter will be a senior tennis player. A sport that should really have no issues as a result of this virus so long as a few adjustments are made. Word on the street is that football parents are already planting the seed that if they can't play, no sport should play because you know that wouldn't be "fair". Parents are the worst, especially high school football parents who can't seem to realize that their kids aren't going to the NFL.
I hope everyone reads what I am writing CAREFULLY. I'm not sure if the actions of the PIAA yesterday were shrewd or cowardly. By leaving the decision up to the individual districts, it simply keeps the organization from being the "bad guy." IMO, it will not be long until some school districts in PA. come out with the inevitable cancellations. School districts simply are not equipped to take the precautions or carry out the protocols needed to ensure the safety and contain the spread (inevitable). One only needs to see the panic that ensued after the Marlins' outbreak. I can't imagine the out cry from parents of school age athlete's. What if an athlete is exposed during competition at another school and the next day he is seated in English next to your daughter? I am not intending to rehash the debate about youngsters being able to over come the virus with minimal adverse impact to their health. I am simply commenting on the logistics and logic of districts pushing ahead with interscholastic sports this fall.I hope they play.
But it’s still early. Not gonna hold my breath.
I hope everyone reads what I am writing CAREFULLY. I'm not sure if the actions of the PIAA yesterday were shrewd or cowardly. By leaving the decision up to the individual districts, it simply keeps the organization from being the "bad guy." IMO, it will not be long until some school districts in PA. come out with the inevitable cancellations. School districts simply are not equipped to take the precautions or carry out the protocols needed to ensure the safety and contain the spread (inevitable). One only needs to see the panic that ensued after the Marlins' outbreak. I can't imagine the out cry from parents of school age athlete's. What if an athlete is exposed during competition at another school and the next day he is seated in English next to your daughter? I am not intending to rehash the debate about youngsters being able to over come the virus with minimal adverse impact to their health. I am simply commenting on the logistics and logic of districts pushing ahead with interscholastic sports this fall.
You could have stopped with.....parents are the worst. I am thankful that I had parents that let me engage in sports and NEVER spoke to the coach or anyone about things like my SELF ESTEEM. My Dad was busting his ass 60 hours a week to keep his business running. There were times when I didn't think he even knew I was on a team. When I was a freshman I played jv football. We played after school so he never came to any games. He had a job. On the final game of the season, we played a few miles from his business. I didn't see him there, didn't expect him there and therefor didn't look around for him. I happened to catch a short sideline pass and shook loose to score on a long run after the catch. Later my Mother told me that my Dad started running down the field yelling,"go kid....go kid..." I could not have been more surprised that he would cheer for me. Honestly, if it hadn't been that my Mom told me I would not have believed it.My daughter will be a senior tennis player. A sport that should really have no issues as a result of this virus so long as a few adjustments are made. Word on the street is that football parents are already planting the seed that if they can't play, no sport should play because you know that wouldn't be "fair". Parents are the worst, especially high school football parents who can't seem to realize that their kids aren't going to the NFL.
I believe the PIAA was wise in their plan. Lombardi is a straight shooter, and there isn't a one sized fits all for each of the schools in the state. What they do in Coudersport might be different than what they do in Philadelphia County. The individual schools, leagues, and districts will play a critical role in the decision making.
As far as your question about an athlete exposing a classmate, is that any different than a student going to the beach (or a trip to Disney) a week before classes start?
the first of many......and the parents of athletes will be storming the school board meeting like it is Bastille Day. As I said in my earlier post.....is the PIAA shrewd or cowardly?Supposedly Norristown HS suspended their fall sports season.
Supposedly Norristown HS suspended their fall sports season.
Others will follow..........
I hope everyone reads what I am writing CAREFULLY. I'm not sure if the actions of the PIAA yesterday were shrewd or cowardly. By leaving the decision up to the individual districts, it simply keeps the organization from being the "bad guy." IMO, it will not be long until some school districts in PA. come out with the inevitable cancellations. School districts simply are not equipped to take the precautions or carry out the protocols needed to ensure the safety and contain the spread (inevitable). One only needs to see the panic that ensued after the Marlins' outbreak. I can't imagine the out cry from parents of school age athlete's. What if an athlete is exposed during competition at another school and the next day he is seated in English next to your daughter? I am not intending to rehash the debate about youngsters being able to over come the virus with minimal adverse impact to their health. I am simply commenting on the logistics and logic of districts pushing ahead with interscholastic sports this fall.
I'm not sure what you are saying? But, I know the Chiefs that I work with are saying, if it isn't safe to bring kids in to school, how do I justify sports?With most jurisdictions deciding to go the virtual learning route, this wouldn't be an issue.
I agree. I was just letting Marshall know that Norristown did what he said schools would do.Their back-to-school plans are virtual instruction until January. Canceling fall sports doesn't seem like a huge surprise, when looked at in that context.
Just to be clear....canceling high school sports breaks my heart. I've been a coach, AD and now league administrator going on 48 years. But people just don't seem to see the complexity of issues......and it is tough when your kids are impacted. I serve on the COVID-19 task force both in our section (like districts in PIAA) and with the state (NYSPHSAA). For me, until the governor removes all restrictions, you get a green light from the Department of Health and students are in school........I just don't see a clear path to interscholastic sports.....If you are in a decision making capacity, your hands are tied. Pray for a vaccine.I agree. I was just letting Marshall know that Norristown did what he said schools would do.
I wonder where that poor superintendent will be working next year.Their back-to-school plans are virtual instruction until January. Canceling fall sports doesn't seem like a huge surprise, when looked at in that context.
And when all college programs surrounding your league modify schedules...then we are in bizarre world. I get paif $50 per game to hold the sticks as a game "official" for the school I teach at. Been doing it for 12 years- awesome views of game and hanging with 2 buddies is about as good as it gets. We had our best year ever last season and a solid returning cast with a great coach. If they somehow play..I'll still get to see the games and get paid. Is it worth it? We'll see. I agree that the NY model to phase in makes more sense than PIAA...but there isn't a lot of common sense surrounding the whole school issue on the whole...I'm not sure what you are saying? But, I know the Chiefs that I work with are saying, if it isn't safe to bring kids in to school, how do I justify sports?
Its a mess. Nothing like it in my lifetime. No good choices.....its like when I officiated basketball in a maximum security prison.....only called two kinds of fouls.....permanent and fatal.And when all college programs surrounding your league modify schedules...then we are in bizarre world. I get paif $50 per game to hold the sticks as a game "official" for the school I teach at. Been doing it for 12 years- awesome views of game and hanging with 2 buddies is about as good as it gets. We had our best year ever last season and a solid returning cast with a great coach. If they somehow play..I'll still get to see the games and get paid. Is it worth it? We'll see. I agree that the NY model to phase in makes more sense than PIAA...but there isn't a lot of common sense surrounding the whole school issue on the whole...
I am a high school head coach (basketball) and I don't see any sports except maybe spring unless a vaccine arrives. But that is unlikely for some time. My seniors have so much riding on it to get scholarships. With no off season exposure, they desperately want hs season to happen. I don’t see it happening. At best an abbreviated season after the winter break. We will still get them into college, but it makes it harder on players and college coaches alike.Just to be clear....canceling high school sports breaks my heart. I've been a coach, AD and now league administrator going on 48 years. But people just don't seem to see the complexity of issues......and it is tough when your kids are impacted. I serve on the COVID-19 task force both in our section (like districts in PIAA) and with the state (NYSPHSAA). For me, until the governor removes all restrictions, you get a green light from the Department of Health and students are in school........I just don't see a clear path to interscholastic sports.....If you are in a decision making capacity, your hands are tied. Pray for a vaccine.
AAU BB is still going full steam in PA.I am a high school head coach (basketball) and I don't see any sports except maybe spring unless a vaccine arrives. But that is unlikely for some time. My seniors have so much riding on it to get scholarships. With no off season exposure, they desperately want hs season to happen. I don’t see it happening. At best an abbreviated season after the winter break. We will still get them into college, but it makes it harder on players and college coaches alike.
And when all college programs surrounding your league modify schedules...then we are in bizarre world. I get paif $50 per game to hold the sticks as a game "official" for the school I teach at. Been doing it for 12 years- awesome views of game and hanging with 2 buddies is about as good as it gets. We had our best year ever last season and a solid returning cast with a great coach. If they somehow play..I'll still get to see the games and get paid. Is it worth it? We'll see. I agree that the NY model to phase in makes more sense than PIAA...but there isn't a lot of common sense surrounding the whole school issue on the whole...
With most jurisdictions deciding to go the virtual learning route, this wouldn't be an issue.
not so fast my friend. In PIAA info they put out, they said schools could compete even if its all virtual. Makes no sense and I am sure some districts would shut down athletics if virtual
not so fast my friend. In PIAA info they put out, they said schools could compete even if its all virtual. Makes no sense and I am sure some districts would shut down athletics if virtual
I probably would not work for free. When my kids graduated my bride requested that I stop giving my time to work (which often crossed over as a parent) and spend more time with her. The money is inconsequential, but in terms of my marriage it is not. There is risk being so close to all of the visiting players. I imagine they will keep the box more clear than usual...but still elements of risk. Parents would likely do it for free, but they have an overt conflict too. Even though we teach at KHS, we have become the best chain gang in the county according to the refs. Opposing coaches recognize us, new ones usually watch our spots closely for a quarter or so and lighten up. Tough spot for you. I'd try not to have a parent if you need to go that route. Maybe youth football coaches? Good luck!just curious, would you do the chains for free this year if no fans are allowed in? I ask that because I am a HS athletic director and with no fans, we will have no revenue. So, I am thinking about asking our game help to volunteer their services this year. Not sure how they would react.
I am sure the Referrees won’t donate their time. We would be looking at losing approximately 1k on a Friday night home game. And that just the beginning of the losses.
I fully expect the Governor to shut down school buildings across the state in favor of virtual education for the start of the school year.
For how long, I could only guess. Maybe a month. Maybe the first nine weeks. I don’t know how long it will last, but I expect to hear that decision very soon.
That decision will also shut down fall sports and all other extra-curricular activities.
I believe Marshall is spot on. Too many variables and unknowns for school districts to deal with under current circumstances. Now that we’ve reached the end of July with no real consensus on how to deal with this virus, I look for the Governor to pull the trigger on at least a temporary education shutdown.
I probably would not work for free. When my kids graduated my bride requested that I stop giving my time to work (which often crossed over as a parent) and spend more time with her. The money is inconsequential, but in terms of my marriage it is not. There is risk being so close to all of the visiting players. I imagine they will keep the box more clear than usual...but still elements of risk. Parents would likely do it for free, but they have an overt conflict too. Even though we teach at KHS, we have become the best chain gang in the county according to the refs. Opposing coaches recognize us, new ones usually watch our spots closely for a quarter or so and lighten up. Tough spot for you. I'd try not to have a parent if you need to go that route. Maybe youth football coaches? Good luck!