It was a joke from the old tOSU press release stating that the buckeyes and Nittany lions had combined to win the past x number of championships
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It was a joke from the old tOSU press release stating that the buckeyes and Nittany lions had combined to win the past x number of championships
I saw that and almost spit out my drink!! A PSU grad might end up coaching at Iowa but those 2 seem among the least likely. I would be floored if that ever happened
I agree and I would like for Carter to see it that way too, but if he doesn’t, he doesn’t. I understand his point that winning the Olympics would make NCAAs somewhat less meaningful having already won it 3 (if he shirts) or 4 times. That said, I find it hard to believe he’s going to beat Dake, Burroughs and Nolf (I understand he has beaten Nolf) for the spot. But I wouldn’t bet money against him either.
If you think Gray shouldn't have won this year -- I agree. Find a better reason than Cornell's talent procurement that you cited.
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Getting practically doubled up in team scoring should be reason enough to not be the coach of the tournament.
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Getting practically doubled up in team scoring should be reason enough to not be the coach of the tournament.
Iowa's next head coach coming from the Cael Sanderson tree?
@johnstownsteel definitely wouldn't point that out every year on HR. Not a chance.
I'm hoping there is even more religion and politics at next year's NCAAs. 🤪
Between the Bible beating & the Orange Menace in attendance, the cringe factor was approaching a tipping point.
Between the Bible beating & the Orange Menace in attendance, the cringe factor was approaching a tipping point.
I couldn’t have been clearer about where I was and wasn’t coming from. Honor my non-judgmental, simply observational, free speech. Okay?
The night b4 they announced Cael as the new PSU coach I was told it is now a done deal and Cael Sanderson would be announced tomorrow as the new wrestling coach. I responded by saying "bullshyt, why in the hell would he ever leave his alma mater?"
You never know what opportunities will present themselves, nor the motivation that drives decisions.
You have to look at it properly. If DT were to be named Iowa's new coach the Hawkeye's would instantly become one of my more appreciated programs. Plus the fun of daily reminders on HR that it had to be the magic unicorn from PSU that was sent to save them. It had always been part of Carl's plan to make Iowa wrestling "FUN"!Good point. I wish I hadn’t read it, though.
Pretty different situations if you ask me. There wasn’t a big rivalry between ISU and PSU and Cael came because PSU was a sleeping giant situated in the middle of the hotbed of wrestling. DT or Nolf going to Iowa would be shocking. I don’t think that’s a controversial statement. Could it happen? I guess, because anything can happen but to me it’s as unlikely as Bushwood saying he was wrong about his “rules” interpretations
Iowa has a storied history, 15,000 at home meets and Dairy Queen ice cream with sprinkles. Plus, nobody would ever see it coming.
I don't think it happens, just saying on a daily basis we enjoy the results of something 14 years ago we would have deemed preposterous.
If you want serenity here then keep politics off the board. Just stop. It isn’t difficult.
Their ethanol based pride would never let them hire a PSU grad as coach. They would go after an alum but what current Iowa grad is coaching better than TnT? Tom Ryan??? I would say that would be an even switch? A Cary Kolat if they want to go younger?
Actually, I think Bushwood does know what he’s talking about most of the time. He just needs to learn how to be a little more brief and also know when it’s time to let something go.
Regarding DT or Nolf at Iowa - no way. They would almost certainly insist on using home grown talent. Hiring DT or Nolf would be totally degrading to any potential Hawk alumni who might want to be considered for the job.
Also, don’t forget that good coaches don’t necessarily have to be the absolute best wrestlers. Koll was only a 1X NCAA champion and look at the job he did at Cornell. Ryan didn’t even win the NCAA title and he’s doing a great job at tOSU. Maybe Iowa could entice Metcalf to come back. I’ll bet he would do a great job based on what I’ve heard about him and seen what he’s doing at ISU.
I agree. There is no way they would ever hire a PSU grad (although I would gladly recommend Troy Sunderland to them!). Hiring a PSU grad would be an acknowledgement that the Gable method doesn't work any more and they would never do that while Gable is still alive. They will live and die on that sword. I think it will take another decade of total domination by us before they finally realize that it is time to worship at the shrine of Cael and bring in a David Taylor, Nolf, Cenzo, Retherford or whoever is the hot former PSU coach in 10 years time.
It's a fun exercise because there's no way they're firing Brands. We all know that, whether or not we want to admit to knowing it.
In any case, whenever that day comes, agreed, Iowa is more inclined to stay in the family. They also seem unlikely to turn over the keys to a first-time head coach, including the current assistants.
Here are the current/recent D1 head coaches who wrestled at Iowa:
- Lennie Zalesky (fomerly Cal Baptist)
- Troy Steiner (Fresno State when program canceled)
- Kevin Dresser (Iowa State)
- Joel Sherratt (formerly Navy)
- Doug Schwab (Northern Iowa)
- Tan Tom (anOSU)
- Steve Martin (Old Dominion when program canceled)
- Jim Zalesky (formerly Oregon State)
- Tony Ersland (Purdue)
I'm not sure Iowa hires any of these guys -- the biggest names (Ryan and Dresser) are unlikely to leave their current jobs. Would the Hawks be happy with Steiner or Schwab or Ersland? Am guessing instead they would go outside the family for an experienced coach.
Getting practically doubled up in team scoring should be reason enough to not be the coach of the tournament.
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Losing four expected starters, including a returning AA, during the year, bringing only seven guys to the tournament, getting four of them to AA, five of the seven to exceed their seeds, and getting two of seven to be national champions (one of which was "coached" to beat a 2x returning champion) and the team to a solid third place, might have been reason enough.
Brands boys finish annually in top 4. Last 3 finishes are 1-3-2.
They aren't going away anytime soon, but the noise is getting louder. Zelesky's Iowa teams won 3 titles, finished 2nd in 2004 and 4th in 2006 and was fired a couple weeks after that finish. At the time OSU was looking for a coach and there was speculation on what was ISU going to do with Cael to keep him out of Columbus, and Gable and Iowa wrestling people were fearful Brands might get the OSU job. Gable actually pushed for the change not wanting to lose Brands and afraid of what Brands could accomplish in Columbus. This part, with the way things played out certainly makes me smile.
There is no ongoing undercurrent drama to help with a push to replace the twins, but the noise is definitely getting louder. It's one thing to always get a team trophy, but rarely winning team title combined with rarely crowning individual champs is what is going to lead to the eventual change.
I think Cox would be a disaster. He’s been acting weird for the last 3 years or so - the weigh in disaster, constant moves, etc
This used to be the ONE place I could visit and not see the political BS and that is apparently over. As long as these idiots receive "likes" they feel validated to keep posting. Can someone make it stop?
Yep every idiot that keeps spewing politics is like a little kid needing the last word.
There is a politics board go there and leave the rest of us alone.
Or even better take it to the Iowa board and they can hate it equally.
There is a politics board go there and leave the rest of us alone.
Or even better take it to the Iowa board and they can hate it equally.
I agree. Way to flaky to lead a program at this point. Maybe in the future if he matures. DT/Nolf/Zane would be gold standard young coaches. I think Kemmer would make a nice HC with some personality to lead a big time program, if he goes that route. Dake of course but with his Benjamin Button aging problem by the time he is ready to take over a program, he will be 5 years old and I can't see Cornell turning over the program to a five year old even if the five year old is the toughest kid in Kindergarten!
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Iowa coaches don't act weird?
Not a head coach so he isn't on your (very good) list, but the funniest replacement would definitely be Tony Ramos. He'd probably take the first year free if you let him fire Brands personally.
When you insult a Christian for professing their faith, God says they are blessed. You might want to search your heart and find out why you are offended by his faith. God bless.
Wait, what did I miss? Spencer gets decked and suddenly he is no longer the heir apparent in Hawkeye land? He’s only about 4 year’s younger that Cael was when he took over at ISU. The only question is who does Spencer hire? Alex & Moriah, Izzy, and Nelson might work.
LMAOROFL. You had no problem with one of your obnoxious pals insulting one of our champions for his faith, just when someone stuck up for him. You losers brought up religion. Thank goodness that our coach and players are of much higher character than you and your pals.
I personally like Kevin Dresser in this scenario. His first match, Iowa could come out wearing orange singlets. How cool would that be?
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