Wrestling Live Thread: Penn State vs. Nebraska

[NittanyChris]

This ref is quick with the whistle

True, but I kinda like it. As long as it’s done evenly for both sides. Didn’t love the call against Nick while on top.

 

[eddy line]

I don’t see Robb wrestling to his current ranking at NCAAs. Doubt he’s an AA, though the weight class lacks depth.

 

[LorenzoFan]

Man, I used to be able to able to log in here and see the score, not any more.

 

[PAgeologist]

Should have kept clearing the hand so he could turn in. Started to then went to the leg and then back to the hand at the end.

I thought he was going to get it but then he allowed Robb to tie him up again. He was close to getting danger swipes also. He might have been better off getting tied up but forcing Robb towards his back.

 

[NittanyChris]

This^^. Bearclaw kept in close, but didn't come remotely close to a TD until the last 15 seconds. And then it was too little, too late.

And yet he was VERY close on that last attempt. Extremely close to pulling off a monster upset. Extremely.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I agree to some extent. It could be he knows he doesn't have the strength to power through at 149 so he limits his shots. I'm holding out hope he regains his confidence and aggressiveness against 141s.

Sorry, but confidence and aggressiveness had zero to do with today's loss..... Beau was thoroughly dominated in every phase - neutral, bottom and top. He looks like that huge group of wrestlers just outside AA level imho. There are so many solid wrestlers in that range chances are just as good that he doesn't make R12 as he does, especially with as many ultra low-scoring matches he wrestles (i.e., he has no neutral offense and it is very difficult to control matches when you can't score from Neutral).

 

[dmm53]

Could this match come down to Beard against Schulz at 197 ... if Nebraska wins 165 and 174 and Penn State wins 184 and 285?

 

[dmm53]

Man, I used to be able to able to log in here and see the score, not any more.

PSU 11 and Nebraska 6

 

[nikko57]

Okay. I like the very late stall call. Don’t see that usually when they go full defensive in final seconds and should see it more often.

 

[eddy line]

Unless Edsell pulls the upset, Mason will need to keep it to a decision.

Edit: Wilson not going for Nebby. Edsel has an opportunity.

 

[IndyLion1]

Robb beat TB 3-2

 

[mcpat]

Man, I used to be able to able to log in here and see the score, not any more.

I don’t disagree that getting PBP is great, but we’re talking about a dual on TV, on radio and for which PennStateWrestling sends a tweet after every bout with its score and highlights.

 

[SUPERTODD]

Unless Edsel pulls the upset, Mason will need to keep it to a decision.

Then we are screwed. Let’s go Creighton!!!

 

[nittinsc]

Unless Edsel pulls the upset, Mason will need to keep it to a decision.

Wilson not wrestling, Edsell's opponent is Jenkins-Harris

 

[slushhead]

Unless Edsel pulls the upset, Mason will need to keep it to a decision.

You mean IF Edsell pulls the upset (by allowing this guy to beat him)?

 

[PAgeologist]

How hasn't this guy been called for stalling yet

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

I mean, if that's not fleeing then nothing is.

 

[mcpat]

How hasn't this guy been called for stalling yet

I deleted my post when I realized he did get called.

 

[IndyLion1]

Edsell wins 9-2

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

That's some incredible uncalled stalling right there. Could not have been more blatant.

 

[PAgeologist]

I deleted my post when I realized he did get called.

Oh. I didn't catch it. My bad. He could have gotten called more.

 

[AndEEss]

If I see BB attempt a cradle ever again, it will be too soon.

 

[psualt]

He needed called more than once.

 

[mcpat]

That's some incredible uncalled stalling right there. Could not have been more blatant.

Inconsistent calls

 

[RB-Old]

I'm hoping somebody mentioned sprawling to Manville since Friday night.

 

[dmm53]

RANK	NAME	SCHOOL	YEAR	NATIONAL RANK
1	Carter Starocci	Penn State	SO	1
2	Michael Kemerer	Iowa	SR	2
3	Mike Labriola	Nebraska	JR	5
4	Logan Massa	Michigan	SR	6
5	Ethan Smith	Ohio State	SR	7
6	Gerrit Nijenhuis	Purdue	SO	17
7	Bailee O'Reilly	Minnesota	SR	19
8	Andrew McNally	Wisconsin	SR	20
9	Troy Fisher	Northwestern	FR	21
10	DJ Shannon	Illinois	FR	22
11	Dominic Solis	Maryland	FR	NR
12	Nicholas South	Indiana	SO	NR
13	Connor O'Neill	Rutgers	FR	NR
14	Nate Jiminez	Michigan State	JR	NR

 

[mcpat]

Still early, but Manville looks a little better tonight, IMO. 2-1; 1:35 to go in 2nd when I type this.

 

[mcpat]

Manville shouldn’t have let go of the leg.

 

[kingslayer_85]

Nick Lee vs Chad Red is the classic example of Cael developing a guy better than Manning. 4-0 in college.

I hate to defend Manning but he had to have done some development given the success of Burroughs, Green , Lovett among others

 

[PAgeologist]

Manville shouldn’t have let go of the leg.

It seemed to me like he heard Manning yelling for the danger call and thought the ref was counting

 

[psualt]

Manville shouldn’t have let go of the leg.

Think he was thinking there was danger as Nebraska was lobbying for it.

 

[Str8DBLz]

Didn't manville give cam caffee a close match a few years ago?

 

[dmm53]

The Edsell is quietly rumbling and humming along down the BIG Ten Highway. He is 4-0 in Big Ten competition. Top seed?

Video	Opponent	School	Date	Event	Weight	W/L	By	How
	#115 Freeman, Kevon (3 - 5) (Compare)	#9 Ohio State	02/04	Ohio State - Penn State Dual	165	W	SV-1	2 - 0
	#145 Cokeley, Sammy (0 - 4) (Compare)	#37 Indiana	01/09	Indiana - Penn State Dual	165	W	MD	11 - 3
	#48 Bell, Gaven (3 - 18) (Compare)	#53 Maryland	01/07	Penn State - Maryland Dual	165	W	DEC	7 - 1

 

[mcpat]

Didn't manville give cam caffee a close match a few years ago?

He wrestled several good, close matches up 1-2 weight classes a few years ago.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

If I see BB attempt a cradle ever again, it will be too soon.

Beau probably has the takedown if he keeps driving forward and keeps Lovett's legs off the mat. But he again turns to the side and goes for the big move rather than just stay methodical, drive forward and force Lovett to bail to avoid potentially expose himself. Same mistake he made against Sasso. But it really didn't matter that much today imho as Lovett thoroughly dominated that match outside that one scramble.

 

[mcpat]

The Edsell is quietly rumbling and humming along down the BIG Ten Highway. He is 4-0 in Big Ten competition. Top seed?

Video	Opponent	School	Date	Event	Weight	W/L	By	How
	#115 Freeman, Kevon (3 - 5) (Compare)	#9 Ohio State	02/04	Ohio State - Penn State Dual	165	W	SV-1	2 - 0
	#145 Cokeley, Sammy (0 - 4) (Compare)	#37 Indiana	01/09	Indiana - Penn State Dual	165	W	MD	11 - 3
	#48 Bell, Gaven (3 - 18) (Compare)	#53 Maryland	01/07	Penn State - Maryland Dual	165	W	DEC	7 - 1

I think they’ll reward Marinelli in the seeding for ducking him by Iowa scheduling Iowa-PSU match while Berge was still at 165.

 

[NittanyChris]

That's some incredible uncalled stalling right there. Could not have been more blatant.

Especially given his quick stalling calls earlier. Extremely inconsistent, which is the exact thing you don’t want in a ref.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Again, Manville must be putting a lot of focus on Greco-Roman lately as his defense on lower-body shots is insanely bad.

 

[Shifty15]

Still early, but Manville looks a little better tonight, IMO. 2-1; 1:35 to go in 2nd when I type this.

You jinxed yourself

 

[Str8DBLz]

He wrestled several good, close matches up 1-2 weight classes a few years ago.

He seems mentally checked out in these last 2 matches... Yes I know they are tough kids but so we're the kids back then.