Wrestling Live Thread: Penn State vs. Nebraska

[mcpat]

Did Red attempt any offense?

Yeah- several shots. A couple deep ones in first period.

 

[PAgeologist]

Did Red attempt any offense?

He certainly had some decent shots.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Beaus mat sense doesn't seem to be there. Darn.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Bartlett has rushed/miscalculated SOOOOOO many finishes this year. That's part of what makes me optimistic. It's little things he needs to clean up and he could be scoring so much more.

 

[amattaro]

I think Beau bet J Lee he could fail more cradle attempts than Joe does throws.

 

[mcpat]

Beaus mat sense doesn't seem to be there. Darn.

I see it as being out powered at 149.

 

[Shifty15]

Same mistake as Friday…goes for a cradle with no leverage.

 

[palmettolion]

Yeah- several shots. A couple deep ones in first period.

Just didn't seem like he did much in 2 or 3.
Edit: As quickly as Lee got hit for stalling, I figured Red would've at least got hit late in the 2nd for doing nothing from neutral.

 

[PAgeologist]

Well, that cements it for me. BB is in no way, shape, or form a 149 pound wrestler. He had Ridge in a lot of trouble and Ridge blew through him like nothing. Just doesn't have the size or strength.

 

[McScoreley]

Beau has no idea how to get out from a leg ride

 

[mcpat]

Bartlett has rushed/miscalculated SOOOOOO many finishes this year. That's part of what makes me optimistic. It's little things he needs to clean up and he could be scoring so much more.

I think some abeing out muscled

Well, that cements it for me. BB is in no way, shape, or form a 149 pound wrestler. He had Ridge in a lot of trouble and Ridge blew through him like nothing. Just doesn't have the size or strength.

That’s how I see it. I think he gets some of those finishes at 141 and certainly doesn’t end up on the short end of them.

 

[Bob_Anderson]

I think some abeing out muscled

That’s how I see it. I think he gets some of those finishes at 141 and certainly doesn’t end up on the short end of them.

He might get some of them, but I've yet to see anything more than R12 at any weight.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Interested to see how this goes at 149. Lovett seems like a bad size and style matchup for Bartlett to me.

Not to toot my own horn, BUT.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

He might get some of them, but I've yet to see anything more than R12 at any weight.

Maybe, but R12 as a RSFR isn't the worst result. A lot of guys and programs would be over the moon with that.

 

[slushhead]

Impressive work by Lovett. Like a Sasso, but wants to score points.

 

[McScoreley]

That was Bartlett's worst effort this year IMO. Definitely needs to open up but you don't have the length to cradle 149s ... especially Sasso/Lovett!

 

[Cali_Nittany]

He might get some of them, but I've yet to see anything more than R12 at any weight.

Have you seen Beau wrestle at 141?

 

[NittanyChris]

Definitely bad matchup for Beau. Still, if he had gotten that first TD, who knows?

 

[McScoreley]

Maybe, but R12 as a RSFR isn't the worst result. A lot of guys and programs would be over the moon with that.

Yup ... we're spoiled.

 

[dmm53]

BB continues to fight no matter what, and that's important. His opponents often have length on him. His best strategy in the post season might be to keep it close and go for the win in OT or with a ride out or last minute TD.

 

[Bob_Anderson]

Have you see Beau wrestle at 141?

Not here to argue. That's my opinion.

 

[dmm53]

RANK	NAME	SCHOOL	YEAR	NATIONAL RANK
1	Ryan Deakin	Northwestern	SR	2
2	Brayton Lee	Minnesota	SO	7
3	Peyton Robb	Nebraska	SO	8
4	Kendall Coleman	Purdue	JR	11
5	Kaleb Young	Iowa	SR	12
6	Will Lewan	Michigan	JR	15
7	Garrett Model	Wisconsin	JR	22
8	Chase Saldate	Michigan State	SO	HM
9	Bryce Hepner	Ohio State	FR	NR
10	Robert Kanniard	Rutgers	SO	NR
11	Derek Gilcher	Indiana	FR	NR
12	Joe Roberts	Illinois	FR	NR
13	Terrell Barraclough	Penn State	SO	NR
14	Lucas Cordio	Maryland	SO	NR

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Not here to argue. That's my opinion.

Who's arguing? I asked a simple question.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Not that it made any difference whatsoever, but how doesn't he call top-stalling on Lovett after how he called same on Lee????

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

That was Bartlett's worst effort this year IMO. Definitely needs to open up but you don't have the length to cradle 149s ... especially Sasso/Lovett!

Thought Murin for me, but definitely a tough showing. Against Murin I felt like he didn't give himself a chance to win, whereas today I just felt like he was pretty outgunned from the jump.

 

[PAgeologist]

He might get some of them, but I've yet to see anything more than R12 at any weight.

I agree to some extent. It could be he knows he doesn't have the strength to power through at 149 so he limits his shots. I'm holding out hope he regains his confidence and aggressiveness against 141s.

 

[Bob_Anderson]

Who's arguing? I asked a simple question.

I have not seen him wrestle at 141. In my opinion he needs major improvement to be better than R12 no matter what weight class he wrestles.

 

[backdrft76]

I'm holding out hope he regains his confidence and aggressiveness against 141s.

This. I hope he's back at 141 next year with his head still in the game.

 

[mcpat]

Not that it made any difference whatsoever, but how doesn't he call top-stalling on Lovett after how he called same on Lee????

I started to type same post, but I think he had RBY broken down flat and hitting cross faces more. I’m not saying you don’t have a point, but I saw enough of a difference that I didn’t post it after taking the time to type basically the same thing.

 

[dmm53]

This ref is quick with the whistle

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

I agree to some extent. It could be he knows he doesn't have the strength to power through at 149 so he limits his shots. I'm holding out hope he regains his confidence and aggressiveness against 141s.

This is sort of where I'm at. And it's not the same for everyone, but if anyone has wrestled as an undersized guy they know it can be deflating when you get in on a shot and quickly realize you have no chance to finish/might give up points. You become a lot more judicious with your shot attempts.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Hah, hell of an effort from Bearclaw.

 

[dmm53]

So close .... but so far

 

[PAgeologist]

Damn. So close to a huge upset there by TB. A hell of a match by him.

 

[Str8DBLz]

Great effort by the claw

 

[mcpat]

Between Angel, this ref and the one we had Friday night… I’ll take the one we had Friday night. I especially liked how he explained himself as he made calls.

 

[KCLion]

Damn. So close to a huge upset there by TB. A hell of a match by him.

Should have kept clearing the hand so he could turn in. Started to then went to the leg and then back to the hand at the end.

 

[dmm53]

In German, one would say of Bear Claw's match:

Knapp daneben is auch vorbei.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

So close .... but so far

This^^. Bearclaw kept in close, but didn't come remotely close to a TD until the last 15 seconds. And then it was too little, too late.

 

[dmm53]

RANK	NAME	SCHOOL	YEAR	NATIONAL RANK
1	Carson Kharchla	Ohio State	SO	4
2	Alex Marinelli	Iowa	SR	5
3	Dean Hamiti	Wisconsin	FR	13
4	Brady Berge	Penn State	SR	10
5	Cameron Amine	Michigan	SO	11
6	Cael Carlson	Minnesota	FR	HM
7	Caleb Fish	Michigan State	SO	HM
8	Dan Braunagel	Illinois	SO	NR
9	Bubba Wilson	Nebraska	FR	HM
10	David Ferrante	Northwestern	SO	NR
11	John Martin Best	Maryland	FR	NR
12	Andrew Clark	Rutgers	FR	NR
13	Emil Soehnlen	Purdue	SO	NR
14	Sammy Cokeley	Indiana	JR	NR