Wrestling Session 1 - 2022 NCAA Championships Results and Discussion thread
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I think all of the PSU guys with major decisions had over 4 minutes of riding time. Brooks wins by 14 with over 4 and a half. Frustrating.
Nothing wrong with wanting guys to do better. Berge and DH didn't attack against opponents they were better than, it's frustrating.
You mean we haven’t blown the whole tournament less than a 5th of the way through?
Fan is short for fanatic. Fanatics are someone who lack reality. These guys are trying. Calm down. BTW my thought is you are a moron.
If you catch and release, particularly when you're one of the best neutral wrestlers in the country, it's easier to score points against a guy who is stalling. It's a lot more obvious to the ref, too, and they are more likely to call it.
Bingo. This isn't the first time we watched these guys and we got some idea of what they capable of. Aside from our resident clown, nobody is putting down the guys but are frustrated with some.
I get the riding time major decision complaints, but falls are worth more than tech falls. It sucks when we end up on the wrong end of that equation, but Brooks threw everything at that guy. I understand what folks are saying and agree to an extent, but it’s also hard to criticize going for the pin.
On the other hand, if you don't feel like you're going to get the pin, got to go for the tech.
| Team | Points | Maximum Potential Points | # Wrestlers | # Pigtails | # Round 1 | # Round 2 | # Consi |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Team Standings | |||||||
| Penn State | 12.5 | 259.5 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 6 | 2 |
| North Carolina State | 11 | 288 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 2 |
| Northern Iowa | 11 | 231.5 | 8 | 2 | 8 | 4 | 3 |
| Iowa | 9.5 | 286.5 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 2 |
| Michigan | 9.5 | 259 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 6 | 1 |
| Arizona State | 8.5 | 203.5 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 5 | |
| Nebraska | 7 | 229.5 | 8 | 0 | 8 | 5 | 1 |
| Oregon State | 7 | 227 | 8 | 1 | 8 | 5 | 2 |
| Virginia Tech | 7 | 227 | 8 | 0 | 8 | 5 | 2 |
| Wisconsin | 7 | 230.5 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 3 | 4 |
| Cornell | 6 | 256.5 | 9 | 1 | 9 | 4 | 3 |
| Oklahoma State | 6 | 198.5 | 8 | 0 | 8 | 5 | 2 |
| Purdue | 6 | 199.5 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 3 | 3 |
| Stanford | 5.5 | 114 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 2 |
| North Carolina | 5 | 169 | 6 | 1 | 6 | 2 | 4 |
| Pitt | 5 | 171 | 6 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 2 |
| Rutgers | 5 | 199.5 | 7 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 5 |
| Cal Poly | 4 | 112.5 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 2 |
| Missouri | 4 | 255.5 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 5 |
| Northwestern | 4 | 227 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 4 | 4 |
| Ohio State | 4 | 227.5 | 8 | 0 | 8 | 3 | 3 |
| Virginia | 4 | 200 | 8 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 3 |
| Appalachian State | 3 | 139 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 2 |
| Bloomsburg | 3 | 30.5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 1 |
| Clarion | 3 | 30.5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 1 |
| Iowa State | 3 | 254.5 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 5 |
| Minnesota | 3 | 227 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 5 |
| North Dakota State | 3 | 144.5 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 2 | 1 |
| Penn | 3 | 254 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 3 | 4 |
| Princeton | 3 | 171.5 | 6 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 3 |
| West Virginia | 3 | 87 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 1 |
| Campbell | 2 | 141.5 | 6 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 4 |
| Duke | 2 | 56 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 2 | |
| Northern Illinois | 2 | 83.5 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 1 |
| Oklahoma | 2 | 253.5 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 5 |
| Wyoming | 2 | 113.5 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 1 |
| Bucknell | 1 | 28 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | |
| Central Michigan | 1 | 113 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 2 |
| Chattanooga | 1 | 83 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 3 |
| Cleveland State | 1 | 85.5 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
| Columbia | 1 | 83 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 2 |
| Harvard | 1 | 28 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | |
| Illinois | 1 | 113 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 2 |
| Indiana | 1 | 55.5 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
I think this is where @Chickenman Testa says Warner looks like a potato.
It's a common enough thing with our guys, though, that it's noteworthy. Aaron against Abe Assad this year, for example. Inexplicable amount of riding time for a DEC win against a guy he is clearly much better than. Most of our guys are NOT DT, Ed, or Zain reborn; they aren't folding people in half or cradling them from left field.
When they DO pin someone, it's usually in transition or off a scramble.
Why watch sports if you're not a fan? Do you just watch because you like the uniforms? Do you not care who wins?
well Gable Stevenson sure does give up a lot of escapes , i wonder if he wrestled a full season if he would set the record for most escapes given up
It is frustrating, but it's a lot easier to get a tech (or a fall, obviously) with back points rather than TDs alone. So its understandable why these guys work hard on top looking for a chance to turn the opponent.
That said, Nick Lee had a tech in the bag and somehow let it slip away. Brooks, conversely, just ran out of time.
I do agree that there is something to be said to starting the catch and release earlier against a lesser opponent. If you have already taken them down 2-3 times, then get RT over a minute and start catch and release. If along the watch your take down leads right to a cradle or backpoints, carry on with that. else, catch and release...
Hey guys what mat did Dean wrestle on? I missed his match and think I can rewind the mat view. Thanks
Nolf seemed to have that perfected. Fall or TF.
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