2021 Olympic Trials Results and discussion thread

[lionlover]

So, the USA men's freestyle Olympic team consists of 6 wrestlers, 1/2 of them are from the NLWC. The USA world team consists of 18 wrestlers, 1/3 of them are from the NLWC.

Do I have that right?

F*ck!!!! I hate when my calculator ain't working! For the record, I do best with multiple choice questions.

 

[lionlover]

I think there is a pretty reasonable way to see that there is. Never did I say that Nick did go in with the intention of winning. But if you can't see a difference between Nick and tough draw he had, never having beaten JO or Yianni, etc. and Yianni who has spent the past 2 years focused on this one singular goal and Zain, both of whom have been on the cusp of International success, then you're intentionally falling into fandom bias or just being obtuse. I'm not talking a major difference here. It's subtle, but it's real. And keep in mind that this is coming from one of if not the biggest Nick Lee fan on this board, having seen many of his matches and following him all the way back to 8th grade.

If you see this as a slight to Nick, you just aren't getting it and there is no reason to continuing this convo.

Sorry @jack66 , I have to agree with him.

 

[raslen007]

Yeah the commentator (who is very good) on mat 3 recognized what was going on - and NEITHER coach did - he said if you can’t do that as a coach at this level, then you shouldn’t be coaching. Said “that will be a LONG plane ride home for those two”.

He also had a comment on the Stanford mess. I enjoyed listening to him. No bias what so ever.

 

[CropDuster507]

Olympic trials are just under the Olympics in terms of wrestling to spectate. Might even be above, just because I’m more informed on domestic competitors.

what a weekend. Congrats to the Olympians and best of luck to those qualifying their weight in May!

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Nice month, Nick just beat Seabass, Eireman, Zain, and Yanni all within 15 days.

Many, at least many on HR that is, would have predicted 0-4 two months ago.

That might have been the most impressive month of wrestling I can remember anyone having.

 

[AgSurfer]

Nice month, Nick just beat Seabass, Eireman, Zain, and Yanni all within 30 days.

Many, at least many on HR that is, would have predicted 0-4 two months ago.

That might have been the most impressive month of wrestling I can remember anyone having.

Which makes me wonder if Nick's loss in the B10 finals was actually an upset.

 

[Larryrise]

And most accounts have Yianni at 149.

Ok. That's all good too. I put up my bet and I could be wrong.

 

[creamery freak]

Olympic trials are just under the Olympics in terms of wrestling to spectate. Might even be above, just because I’m more informed on domestic competitors.

what a weekend. Congrats to the Olympians and best of luck to those qualifying their weight in May!

I have to say it was a great weekend of wrestling. My only problem is if you are trying to grow the sport, why would not put DT and Bo in the 1st rotation of televised matches? Both are two of the more recognizable names and careers in recent college wrestling, so them going head to head was a no brainer for primetime.
My favorite matches were Nick vs Yianni, Bo vs Zahid and Bo vs PD3. It's a shame more people couldn't see the fireworks and scrambles that happened in the Nick Lee vs Yianni match or Bo vs Zahid. Just my 2 cents.

 

[82bordeaux]

Where did you find the GIF of the French girl?

 

[midniteride]

Watching Adeline Gray win just now by TF reminds me that I don't understand yet another aspect of freestyle. I thought you could pin yourself if you roll over on your own flat back without bridging, No?. I saw Gray (and others) do that during this tourney.

This is freestyle. The rules change depending on who the official is and what country their from.

 

[NJ Lion]

I found a few post match interviews. Here is Helen Maroulis. She tore her MCL 2 weeks before the trials. Wow!!

 

[NJ Lion]

I love Thomas Gilman interviews. He puts himself out there and tells it like it is. congratulations Thomas.

 

[NJ Lion]

Kyle Snyder

 

[tikk10]

I love Thomas Gilman interviews. He puts himself out there and tells it like it is. congratulations Thomas.

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Really thoughtful guy who's become a lot more self aware over the years. Really happy for him.

 

[NJ Lion]

David Taylor’s interview.

 

[jack66]

If you see this as a slight to Nick, and there is no reason to continuing this convo.

No I see it as a slight on Yianni and Zane. As a member of the world team they can represent the USA in other world events. To say that they are so light of character that they can't refocus on secondary goals is an insult to them.

Nick, Yianni and Zain have never given less than 100% any time they step on the mat ... quit is not in their DNA. It is obtuse to speculate otherwise..

 

[Ja1339]

Yep. Most under rated wrestler in a long while. Gas tank and mat savy along with a huge heart. This kid can do anything

Quite awhile ago, I recall @Hoosier Lion saying Nick was the future at 65kg. That sure looks prophetic now.

 

[James P. Whitters III]

It really doesn't matter who was up for a match and who wasn't. Nick Lee has taken a giant step forward these past couple of weeks in terms of showing himself what he is capable of achieving. I don't think this is the last of Zain or YD, but Nick Lee will now be a serious part of every conversation when we think of future world teams.

I normally complain about having to wade through the women's matches while waiting for the men's freestyle matches, but these ladies really won me over from the wrestling they put on display these past couple of days. I am a fan moving forward!

 

[PSU210]

It really doesn't matter who was up for a match and who wasn't. Nick Lee has taken a giant step forward these past couple of weeks in terms of showing himself what he is capable of achieving. I don't think this is the last of Zain or YD, but Nick Lee will now be a serious part of every conversation when we think of future world teams.

I normally complain about having to wade through the women's matches while waiting for the men's freestyle matches, but these ladies really won me over from the wrestling they put on display these past couple of days. I am a fan moving forward!

Couldn't agree more with the ladies, they really put on a nice show.

 

[MikeDerukey]

And get pinned by a no-name. PSU guys don't even like Zain. No chance JO or McKenna would ever consider inviting him.

What is your problem? You sound like you have a personal vendetta against the guy. Is this what you do, go on message boards and act like a jilted ex in regards to athletes? You sound insanely pathetic.

 

[El-Jefe]

What is your problem? You sound like you have a personal vendetta against the guy. Is this what you do, go on message boards and act like a jilted ex in regards to athletes? You sound insanely pathetic.

Sound?

 

[MikeDerukey]

Sound?

I probably should not have given him the benefit. Is pathetic is accurate.

 

[82bordeaux]

Sound?

Maybe he reads out loud.

 

[82bordeaux]

After these last two weeks of watching wrestling I feel like...

 

[jack66]

What is your problem? You sound like you have a personal vendetta against the guy. Is this what you do, go on message boards and act like a jilted ex in regards to athletes? You sound insanely pathetic.

He's still butt hurt after Zain beat JO a few years ago.

 

[El-Jefe]

Let's be honest: Mad Chum is a troll. He doesn't give a rip about Jordan Oliver. He has been completely silent about anything else Oliver (including the move to UNC and training with Yianni).

100% certain he would not comment at all if Oliver had attended PSU (which was Oliver's mother's preference at the time).

 

[johnstownsteel]

After these last two weeks of watching wrestling I feel like...

Is that Vito from the Sopranos? And if so, do you like Johnny Cakes by chance?

 

[tikk10]

Quite awhile ago, I recall @Hoosier Lion saying Nick was the future at 65kg. That sure looks prophetic now.

Lucky Hoosier homerism.

 

[86PSUPaul]

Some fantastic wrestlers! Great representatives of the US and NLWC!

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

I have to say it was a great weekend of wrestling. My only problem is if you are trying to grow the sport, why would not put DT and Bo in the 1st rotation of televised matches? Both are two of the more recognizable names and careers in recent college wrestling, so them going head to head was a no brainer for primetime.
My favorite matches were Nick vs Yianni, Bo vs Zahid and Bo vs PD3. It's a shame more people couldn't see the fireworks and scrambles that happened in the Nick Lee vs Yianni match or Bo vs Zahid. Just my 2 cents.

That was a shit show of a production!
Every one of those matches should have been televised, seperately and on ONE mat.
Why did they not start early session until 1:00??
I honestly had no idea (my own fault) that they would be on 3 mats last night. How disrespectful.

 

[Ranger Dan]

Ranger Dan, I won't spoil it for you. The ending of that Gonzaga/UCLA game was amazing.

The joy of setting up multiple tvs in the living room.

I’m actually watching it now. My wife stayed up to watch it live but said it was good enough to watch again this morning.

 

[NoVaLion2]

Helen likes that move (from 2017):

 

[backdrft76]

I normally complain about having to wade through the women's matches while waiting for the men's freestyle matches, but these ladies really won me over from the wrestling they put on display these past couple of days. I am a fan moving forward!

Couldn't agree more. For the first time, I found myself engaged with the women's matches just as much as the men's this time around. Can't wait to watch them all in Tokyo!

And in all honesty, I did enjoy the NBC coverage of this event. They did a good job overall. It was good for the sport.

 

[El-Jefe]

Helen likes that move (from 2017):

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She's not alone.

 

[07mantle]

Just haven‘t seen any guys who lost ”sticking around”. Maybe I just wasn’t paying attention, but don’t think anything Bo did was unusual.

doubt that anyone expected Bo to ‘stick around’ ...but a ‘handshake’ would have been ‘sportsman like’ ..after all ...isn’t Bo the guy who was consistently trying to ‘help up’ a defeated wrestler off of the mat?

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Just got done watching the post match interviews. I'm thinking HR may be right, we are a cult. A wrestling juggernaut self improvement, family oriented, championship cult!!!

 

[nitlion6]

Just saw Nick Lee's match w/ Yianni. I'm starting to think Nick might be good at wrestling.

No. Just a good game plan against an opponent who had so little interest in making the US Olympic team he was forced at gun point to show up.

 

[nitlion6]

Which makes me wonder if Nick's loss in the B10 finals was actually an upset.

Huge upset.

 

[RoarLions1]

Nice tourney overall by the NLWC. Eight associated wrestlers won a place on this year's Olympic team. A few didn't accomplish their dream, and that's heart-breaking, but it's wrestling and life. Surprisingly, I got to see almost every bout of "our" wrestlers, all three disciplines , and they wrestled with good effort throughout.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

doubt that anyone expected Bo to ‘stick around’ ...but a ‘handshake’ would have been ‘sportsman like’ ..after all ...isn’t Bo the guy who was consistently trying to ‘help up’ a defeated wrestler off of the mat?

He did shake his hand.