Cenzo VS IMAR, ESPN + IRONHEAD
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I couldn't contain my emotions watching live in Scottrade and felt it all over again watching this...Thanks!!
The reaction by Mark Perry... PRICELESS!!!
Fantastic post. I enjoyed it. I thought Perry reaction said it all. If you remember when Nolf decked Imar the Illinois coaches were more animated because it was off a scramble. This time it looked more like they just watched an execution.
I would be absolutely shocked if he is not able to come back from this.
And better improve that gas tank!
I'm not sure why this needs to be said multiple times, Imar shook his hand.
Yes, he shook his hand. In the gopsusports video you can see it.
Yes he did and I wouldn't expect anything less from a Champion like IMar. He got beat, was stunned, but has always been a good sport.
Plus the referee always makes sure a handshake happens and if an athlete won't do it, a team point is assessed. Ask Terry Brands all about it ...
Plus the referee always makes sure a handshake happens and if an athlete won't do it, a team point is assessed. Ask Terry Brands all about it ...
That was awesome, lol.
Jeff at the end of the match:
Jeff at the end of the match:
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Imagine only losing two matches your entire career, and both times, you lose to a guy from Penn State, and both times, you get pinned.
What are the odds of that?
What are the odds of that?
Dean Heil thinks IMar was robbed
Pin and
the Win
Yup. Vinnie walked into the bar and robbed him of his title in front of thousands of witnesses. That's what he's supposed to do.
The look on Martinez is understandable, and I do feel bad for him.
The look on Perry is pure comedy. It's as if Casey ran over and picked him up off the mat with a wedgie.
The look on Perry is pure comedy. It's as if Casey ran over and picked him up off the mat with a wedgie.
Great family photo...
Will work well on Christmas Cards
Great family photo...
Will work well on Christmas Cards
Is that Cenzo's Grandfather standing up in the blue?
Crop that pic to narrow in on 3 or all 4 and that will make a great wall hanging photo or a standup pic in the trophy case.
Is Perry the coach in the jacket and orange shirt in the background when the pin occurs?
Looks like Cenzo's family was not in the temporary stands as I thought. I recall him running up through them but didn't realize he kept going into the lower level. My bad on that one.
That is a fantastic shot!
That is a fantastic shot!
Byers's call is now my ringtone. I love the voice break when he yells "PIN". Totally awesome.
Wish I could get a life insurance policy next February on Byers, because I don't think he can make it through 10AAs and 7 National Champs. Still, love listening o his calls. He is the best
Yes. AJ was there too, sitting (I think) in front of Cenzo's parents, in a white Franklin Gomez t-shirt, though he's not in these pics
I thought the fact Nolf celebrated Cenzo's championship more than his own speaks volumes for this squad.
I like how Byers' excitement goes up a notch on "pin." His excitement level was already at 11 and he somehow found 12.
Both pins of IMar--Nolf's and now Cenzo's--seemed possible to fight off and were of the type that D1 guys routinely fight off. Neither were cradles; he had his legs available in both. Nolf's pin was especially precarious. I get that he doesn't spend a lot of time on his back and probably doesn't practice it but it's still pretty odd that someone who is that good from every position couldn't fight off his back in the two opportunities he's been presented with.
I hope this match doesn't get wrongly remembered as one where Cenzo just "caught him" and got lucky because just as impressive as the inside trip was the fact that Cenzo was in control of that match, getting the last two takedowns. He'd just gotten out from underneath to start the third in five seconds, preserving a minute on the RT clock. Momentum was going in one direction at that point, and if Cenzo didn't get the pin he seemed headed for a decision, maybe capped by a counter of an IMar shot in a sloppy final 30 seconds.
Both pins of IMar--Nolf's and now Cenzo's--seemed possible to fight off and were of the type that D1 guys routinely fight off. Neither were cradles; he had his legs available in both. Nolf's pin was especially precarious. I get that he doesn't spend a lot of time on his back and probably doesn't practice it but it's still pretty odd that someone who is that good from every position couldn't fight off his back in the two opportunities he's been presented with.
I hope this match doesn't get wrongly remembered as one where Cenzo just "caught him" and got lucky because just as impressive as the inside trip was the fact that Cenzo was in control of that match, getting the last two takedowns. He'd just gotten out from underneath to start the third in five seconds, preserving a minute on the RT clock. Momentum was going in one direction at that point, and if Cenzo didn't get the pin he seemed headed for a decision, maybe capped by a counter of an IMar shot in a sloppy final 30 seconds.
Part of the reason Nolf pinned him was landing knee to jaw on his face.
Cenzo "caught" Martinez in the sense Q did to Gambrall: both guys landed on their shoulders where only a 1-count was required for the pin.
But let's make no mistake about this: Martinez was not caught. Cenzo tried the same move at least 2x before it worked -- in the first (became the shrug for Cenzo's first takedown), and a few seconds before the stick. Both times Cenzo had double overs, stepped in, but couldn't get the trip and had to step back out. Third time was the charm.
This was scouting and preparation, not getting caught.
Yeah, agreed fully. To be clear I wasn't suggesting he got caught, just imagining how revisionist history will play out.
But why didn't Byers make 11 his highest level and make 12, 11?
Pause. More pause. "Byers goes to twelve."But why didn't Byers make 11 his highest level and make 12, 11?
Merely joking about actually getting a pin called on you when you're flat on your back. It must have shocked Heil
Oh, yeah I got it, but crazy enough, for a split second I thought, hey, "maybe" haha.
Cenzo didn't catch Imar, he threw him to his back and pinned him fair and square. To me, 'catching' somebody is more in some type of crazy scramble situation where a wrestler just ends up in a bad spot by mostly dumb luck. It wasn't luck when MM threw Bo to his back last year, Bo went for a move and MM countered it. Same happened with Cenzo. I think where IMar screwed up is he greatly underestimated Cenzo's strength. I would bet Cenzo has been in that position 100+ times before and always came out on top. But Cenzo not only countered Imar's throw attempt but overpowered Imar and threw him down. Imar never came up against a wrestler before that could do that most likely.
The difference wasn't that Cenzo threw him. The difference is that Cenzo is the only one who wasn't rolled through by Imar's core strength. Cenzo has the same core strength at Imar, and he held the move with great instinct, strength, and technique.
Imar's been thrown plenty of times and usually he rolls through and plants the opponent, or kips up and out of it, as he did to Miller in the semi's last year.
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