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2024 NCAA's - Day 2 - Match/discussion thread

85.5 right now.

- all six semifinalists win: +42
- half the BR matches are wins: +7
- how about two bonus points with those eight wins? +2

Puts us at 136.5

All six finalists win tomorrow night: +24
2 others take 4th: +14
How about two more bonus among those ten wins? +2

= 176.5

There’s a path. Even with no more bonus, placements can get us there.
It's a path. A path where almost everything must go perfectly. In other words, not very realistic.
 
I think you have a GREAT chance next year! Maybe even more of a shot than PSU. Believe it! Don't let anyone tell you guys any differently.
























I do this so they get their hopes up. I enjoy their meltdowns more when they thought they had a chance.
Oh thank goodness. For a minute there I was hearing Stuart Smalley’s voice.
 
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Seeds Remaining After Session #3

125

SF: 3, 8, 10, 12
BR: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 15, 20, 23

133
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 13, 15, 20

141
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 21, 25, 26

149
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 26

157
SF: 1, 2, 6, 12
BR: 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 19, 26

165
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 20

174
SF: 4, 6, 7, 9
BR: 1, 2, 3, 12, 14, 15, 18, 28

184
SF: 1, 2, 3, 4
BR: 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 14, 25

197
SF: 1, 2, 3, 12
BR: 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 25

285
SF: 1, 3, 4, 10
BR: 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 26
 
Oh thank goodness. For a minute there I was hearing Stuart Smalley’s voice.

story response GIF
 
Seeds Remaining After Session #3

125

SF: 3, 8, 10, 12
BR: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 15, 20, 23

133
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 13, 15, 20

141
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 21, 25, 26

149
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 26

157
SF: 1, 2, 6, 12
BR: 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 19, 26

165
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 20

174
SF: 4, 6, 7, 9
BR: 1, 2, 3, 12, 14, 15, 18, 28

184
SF: 1, 2, 3, 4
BR: 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 14, 25

197
SF: 1, 2, 3, 12
BR: 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 25

285
SF: 1, 3, 4, 10
BR: 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 26
Great info. So right now Carter is the 5th lowest seed wrestling in the semis. Also, the #1 and #2 seeds are wrestling in 7 of the 10 weights. Just shows the formula for seeding selection works. The funny thing is that before the tourney started, the two weights where everyone thought that anyone could get to semis was 125 and 174, and they are the exact two weights where it's been a free-for-all.
 
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Doesn't Iowa wrestle the same rotation in B1Gs as we do? Then you add the Xmas tourneys. A match with Ferrari. I just don't think the quality of his schedule is why he went 1-2. Aaron had 6 wins against top 16. Glazier had 4. He was listless for the most part at NCAAs and I watched all three matches. He is not the same guy who wrestled in January.
I think that’s typical of most wrestlers who have to endure Brands’ brutal and exhausting training.
 
Stupid Stats and Observations

  • Only 184 saw all four top seeds make the semifinals
  • The 3 seed failed to make the semifinals in 7 of the 10 weight classes
  • The 1 seed made the semifinals in 8 of the 10 weight classes
  • The 2 seed made the semifinals in 7 of the 10 weight classes
  • The 3 seed made the semifinals in 3 of the 10 weight classes
  • The 4 seed made the semifinals in 5 of the 10 weight classes
  • 5 double-digit seeds made the semifinals
  • The 6 seed made the semifinals in 6 of the 10 weight classes
  • Every weight class has at least one 20+ seed still wrestling
  • Thirteen 20+ seeds are still wrestling
  • The highest seed still wrestling is 28 Jared Simms (UNI) at 174
  • Four 26 seeds are still wrestling
  • 17 wrestlers lost their first match and made the blood round
  • Only 165 didn't have a wrestler that lost their first match make the blood round
 
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I love to listen to Byers (even if he can't pronounce "sixth"). He's usually close to flawless in his commentating, but the poor guy is struggling to keep up today. Missing whole matches, wrongly reporting matches done when it's only the end of the 1st or 2nd period, assuming wins for a particular wrestler when he sees no action on the mat, calculating a wrongly called “winner’s” next opponent, drearily forecasting Carter’s likely loss to Mekhi, etc. 🤣

Hopefully someone will get him a 6 pack of 5-hour energy bottles for tonight’s round.
 
Seeds Remaining After Session #3

125

SF: 3, 8, 10, 12
BR: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 15, 20, 23

133
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 13, 15, 20

141
SF: 1, 2, 5, 6
BR: 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 21, 25, 26

149
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 26

157
SF: 1, 2, 6, 12
BR: 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 19, 26

165
SF: 1, 2, 4, 6
BR: 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 20

174
SF: 4, 6, 7, 9
BR: 1, 2, 3, 12, 14, 15, 18, 28

184
SF: 1, 2, 3, 4
BR: 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 14, 25

197
SF: 1, 2, 3, 12
BR: 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 25

285
SF: 1, 3, 4, 10
BR: 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 26
Good year to be a 6 seed
 
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Add the SF and consi round 4 numbers together. PSU has 10. NEB, who is in 12th place has 7. Four other teams have 6 left.

Team Standings
TeamPointsMaximum
Potential
Points
If
Seeds
Hold
# SF# F# Cons 4
(Rd of 12)
# Cons 5
(All Amer.)
# Cons Semi# 7th-8th
Penn State
86.5​
254.5​
152​
6​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Michigan
50.5​
130​
66​
4​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
Arizona State
44.5​
104.5​
66.5​
4​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa State
42​
150​
67​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa
41.5​
149.5​
67.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Ohio State
36​
105​
57.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
Virginia Tech
35.5​
143.5​
52.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
North Carolina State
33.5​
146​
84.5​
1​
0​
5​
0​
0​
0​
Missouri
33​
121.5​
48.5​
2​
0​
3​
0​
0​
0​
Oklahoma State
33​
102​
48.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
For comparison:
2024 PSU after Session 3: 86.5 pts
2023 2nd place final score: 82.0 pts
 
Check this bit of desperation from number one hawk fan himself, the fake a$$ "MSU158", who masqueraded for YEARS on "the mat" until I outed him as a hawk fan and he eventually said "screw it" and gave up the fraud ..

"I know the Ferraris have done enough to make many here not want them no matter what. I do pretty much feel that way now about Anthony. But, I am still willing to consider the NCAA Champ Ferrari if he can toe the line from now until next season"

Yep. Ole 158 is willing to let go of the splits and the double bird and EVERYTHING ELSE 😂
 
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I love to listen to Byers (even if he can't pronounce "sixth"). He's usually close to flawless in his commentating, but the poor guy is struggling to keep up today. Missing whole matches, wrongly reporting matches done when it's only the end of the 1st or 2nd period, assuming wins for a particular wrestler when he sees no action on the mat, calculating a wrongly called “winner’s” next opponent, drearily forecasting Carter’s likely loss to Mekhi, etc. 🤣

Hopefully someone will get him a 6 pack of 5-hour energy bottles for tonight’s round.
I know a doctor who is there for the tournament. Maybe he will prescribe some Adderall for JB
 
My feeling was he wanted locked hands to be called, asked for a brick, then tried to bait a locked hands at least once
Freshman mistake: when you lose focus at this level...you have lost the match. It's a teaching and learning moment: It will not happen again.
 
I love to listen to Byers (even if he can't pronounce "sixth"). He's usually close to flawless in his commentating, but the poor guy is struggling to keep up today. Missing whole matches, wrongly reporting matches done when it's only the end of the 1st or 2nd period, assuming wins for a particular wrestler when he sees no action on the mat, calculating a wrongly called “winner’s” next opponent, drearily forecasting Carter’s likely loss to Mekhi, etc. 🤣

Hopefully someone will get him a 6 pack of 5-hour energy bottles for tonight’s round.
He had Shapiro with a pin in quarters and then 10 minutes later he was announcing the end of the match. He tried to validate his earlier statement by saying that, no one was on the mat and maybe it was concussion protocol.??
He totally missed the first Kasak match. He thought he maybe got an injury default.??
I was nowhere near a TV or computer. I was relying on Byers keeping me in the loop.
Let's just say he was trying real hard and probably would benefit if he had a spotter helping him. I use to be a spotter at high school football games. Maybe I could get press credentials next year and help Ironhead 😏
 
He had Shapiro with a pin in quarters and then 10 minutes later he was announcing the end of the match. He tried to validate his earlier statement by saying that, no one was on the mat and maybe it was concussion protocol.??
He totally missed the first Kasak match. He thought he maybe got an injury default.??
I was nowhere near a TV or computer. I was relying on Byers keeping me in the loop.
Let's just say he was trying real hard and probably would benefit if he had a spotter helping him. I use to be a spotter at high school football games. Maybe I could get press credentials next year and help Ironhead 😏
They need to hire a color man. Not because he needs it, but for reasons above
 
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The fire Brands threads were up during and after Big 10’s. It’s nothing new. Same with finding guys in the portal.
Jm98 - serious question. Remember when Iowa somewhat unceremoniously dumped Zalesky back around 2002? I’d be surprised if the same happened to TnT, but do you think there is a possibility of a private meeting next week where they are told that they have to start doing better?
 
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