There was zero excuse for that Nagao match, with Kasak I'm willing to give him a mulligan: You need guile to win matches like that, which he will learn.
2024 NCAA's - Day 1 - Match/discussion thread
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So last year 16 , this year 15.5, with this year having more potential scoring wrestlers in round 1
LOL then why are we in first place!!
It's like Rogotzke's 10th win of the season where he gets taken down, gets behind, and goes head hunting for a pin. It doesn't seem like a good long term strategy, but hey, if you've got a knack for it...Deja vu
8 advance why are you all getting so worried!
Yes. It looked like he hurt his hand or thumb at the very end. There were only about 20 seconds left and he was up 7-1, so he just stalled out the third, but he was clearly favoring it and trying to shake it out. There hasn't been any update (to my knowledge) about the severity (either officially or unofficially).
Did Pitt really go 0-7 in that round? If so,
Overall I think a pretty good first round:
125: Davis appeared to to hurt his hand at the end but hopefully it is a non issue moving forward. He hit two sweet takedowns and I'm not sure once he steps on a mat he ever comes out of his stance.
133: Nagao was pretty disappointing, actually very disappointing. Only in on I think one shot, and got beat on every scramble. If something is off, I think it is in his best interest to take top. Hopefully he is awake now and can lock it in.
141: We've been saying the same thing for years about BB's offense. When he decides to go, he can get to legs, and scores more times than not. But he has to commit. The second of 3 consecutive weights that were lackluster. Many people were worried about Matthews but worry not, he is wrestling Moore.
149: It's really hard to use the freshman excuse. Especially since his teammate is in the same boat and rose above the bright lights. Add in the fact that Kasak was wrestled on the world stage, he should be battle tested and prepared for this. I think the turning point in the match was riding so long in the third. I'd rather have 2 minutes to get a takedown and then worry about riding, instead of limiting the amount of time to get said takedown. Hopefully he makes a ton of noise on the backside and shows everyone it was a fluke match.
157: The start of the rejuvenation. From here on out was basically what was expected and they've been doing it all year.
165: Ditto
174: Do I think Carter is 100%? No. However, like others have said, he has notoriously paced himself in every single tournament. We will see how he looks tonight and reevaluate.
184: In my opinion, the biggest surprise of the first round. Wrestle like this throughout, and I think he'll be wrestling Saturday night.
197: Brooks things
197: Kerk things.
Biggest upset in Rd 1:
Im going with 28 Diego Sotelo over 5 Jore Volk. This is really the only guy I seen people were picking to possibly win the weight that lost.
125: Davis appeared to to hurt his hand at the end but hopefully it is a non issue moving forward. He hit two sweet takedowns and I'm not sure once he steps on a mat he ever comes out of his stance.
133: Nagao was pretty disappointing, actually very disappointing. Only in on I think one shot, and got beat on every scramble. If something is off, I think it is in his best interest to take top. Hopefully he is awake now and can lock it in.
141: We've been saying the same thing for years about BB's offense. When he decides to go, he can get to legs, and scores more times than not. But he has to commit. The second of 3 consecutive weights that were lackluster. Many people were worried about Matthews but worry not, he is wrestling Moore.
149: It's really hard to use the freshman excuse. Especially since his teammate is in the same boat and rose above the bright lights. Add in the fact that Kasak was wrestled on the world stage, he should be battle tested and prepared for this. I think the turning point in the match was riding so long in the third. I'd rather have 2 minutes to get a takedown and then worry about riding, instead of limiting the amount of time to get said takedown. Hopefully he makes a ton of noise on the backside and shows everyone it was a fluke match.
157: The start of the rejuvenation. From here on out was basically what was expected and they've been doing it all year.
165: Ditto
174: Do I think Carter is 100%? No. However, like others have said, he has notoriously paced himself in every single tournament. We will see how he looks tonight and reevaluate.
184: In my opinion, the biggest surprise of the first round. Wrestle like this throughout, and I think he'll be wrestling Saturday night.
197: Brooks things
197: Kerk things.
Biggest upset in Rd 1:
Im going with 28 Diego Sotelo over 5 Jore Volk. This is really the only guy I seen people were picking to possibly win the weight that lost.
He hurt it in the first I believe.
Guys, it's NCAA's. There aren't any easy wins here. I'm disappointed, as, like most, I expected 10-0 Nagao just doesn't have quick feet, and it cost him. I didn't think he lacked aggressiveness, he just got out-wrestled. For Kasak, he was the more offensive guy, he just couldn't finish it. I knew Abas was a dangerous 1st rounder, but, I expected a win. Oh well, hopefully those two find some backside magic, though, it's going to be a tough road.
I'm a bit worried about Davis' hand, but, hopefully, they take care of it.
Carter is obviously not 100%. There is a reason he chose neutral.
157-285 were on a mission. Nice work.
You know things are bad, when the board is in depression mode, while, we all know there is no way we are losing this thing!
I'm a bit worried about Davis' hand, but, hopefully, they take care of it.
Carter is obviously not 100%. There is a reason he chose neutral.
157-285 were on a mission. Nice work.
You know things are bad, when the board is in depression mode, while, we all know there is no way we are losing this thing!
Not sure if we are even talking the same bout, but the one I saw was OOB and the guy seemed dazed like he hit his head OOB. Came across as a concussion. I was watching 8 mats and two screen so moved on. IDK
Davis hand looks bad and he couldn't undo his head gear. Had a coach do it. Does not look good. Let's hope for the best!
I think Carter got scared $hitless in the first scramble when the kid twisted his bad leg. You could see Carter give up easily there when he normallly wouldn't. The mental part is a concern for me when he gets to Lewis.
It's like clock work. I told a good friend (PSU roommate actually) just this morning that PSU fans would have to face some disappointment and that there WOULD BE a few losses that weren't entirely expected in this tournament, it's how it works. And as always, there will be a few insufferable "fans" that have to wail that the sky is falling because we're not leading after round one (or only leading by single digits).
PSU is fine. Nagao will wrestle back or he won't. I hope and think that he will, but if not, it's his disappointment and not really mine. I think Kasak will wrestle back hard and make it to the blood round at least. Everyone else is where they should be and will continue to win (and in all likelihood we'll have one, two or three of them still lose in the coming rounds too. It happens).
It is a shame that they missed Starocci's pin though. I've been on record all year as believing that PSU will NOT break the scoring record, but I'll take any bonus points we can get along the way, obviously.
PSU is fine. Nagao will wrestle back or he won't. I hope and think that he will, but if not, it's his disappointment and not really mine. I think Kasak will wrestle back hard and make it to the blood round at least. Everyone else is where they should be and will continue to win (and in all likelihood we'll have one, two or three of them still lose in the coming rounds too. It happens).
It is a shame that they missed Starocci's pin though. I've been on record all year as believing that PSU will NOT break the scoring record, but I'll take any bonus points we can get along the way, obviously.
I’m 97% sure Davis hurt his left hand in the 1st period. When it happened, he snapped around with a pissed off look on his face to his opponent. I think he caught it again late in the 3rd. I’m sure they will give him some medicine and tape him up.
Round 1 upsets:
125
17 Ungar over 16 Peterson
28 Sotelo over 5 Volk
20 Poulin over 13 Surtin
133
24 Chlebove over 9 Serrano
21 Oakley over 12 Latona
22 Zaccone over 11 Romney
23 Yarbrough over 10 Nagao
141
17 Powe over 16 Chappell
21 Edmond over 12 Henson
20 Crook over 13 Titus
26 Vombaur over 7 Happel
23 Fangaro over 10 Jamison
149
17 Rooks over 16 Griffin
21 McDougald over 12 Miller
20 Williams over 13 Rathjen
22 Willochell over 11 Kinner
26 Abas over 7 Kasak
18 Bond over 15 Munson
157
19 Askey over 14 Chittum
165
20 Garvin over 13 Bianchi
22 Mulvaney over 11 Cerniglia
174
28 Simma over 5 Conigliaro
21 Eischens over 12 Kennedy
19 Cramer over 14 Sax
18 Pasiuk over 15 Gaitan
184
17 Feldkamp over 16 Dugan
24 Liegel over 9 Berge
25 Key over 8 Wolf
19 Conway over 14 Foca
23 Malczewski over 10 Fishback
18 Rogotzke over 15 Heller
197
17 Novak over 16 Stout
20 Bockman over 13 Hopkins
22 Joles over 11 Smith
26 Smith over 7 Glazier
18 Stemmet over 15 Shaw
285
17 Greiss over 16 Day
25 Hill over 8 Trephan
19 Crosby over 14 McDermott
125
17 Ungar over 16 Peterson
28 Sotelo over 5 Volk
20 Poulin over 13 Surtin
133
24 Chlebove over 9 Serrano
21 Oakley over 12 Latona
22 Zaccone over 11 Romney
23 Yarbrough over 10 Nagao
141
17 Powe over 16 Chappell
21 Edmond over 12 Henson
20 Crook over 13 Titus
26 Vombaur over 7 Happel
23 Fangaro over 10 Jamison
149
17 Rooks over 16 Griffin
21 McDougald over 12 Miller
20 Williams over 13 Rathjen
22 Willochell over 11 Kinner
26 Abas over 7 Kasak
18 Bond over 15 Munson
157
19 Askey over 14 Chittum
165
20 Garvin over 13 Bianchi
22 Mulvaney over 11 Cerniglia
174
28 Simma over 5 Conigliaro
21 Eischens over 12 Kennedy
19 Cramer over 14 Sax
18 Pasiuk over 15 Gaitan
184
17 Feldkamp over 16 Dugan
24 Liegel over 9 Berge
25 Key over 8 Wolf
19 Conway over 14 Foca
23 Malczewski over 10 Fishback
18 Rogotzke over 15 Heller
197
17 Novak over 16 Stout
20 Bockman over 13 Hopkins
22 Joles over 11 Smith
26 Smith over 7 Glazier
18 Stemmet over 15 Shaw
285
17 Greiss over 16 Day
25 Hill over 8 Trephan
19 Crosby over 14 McDermott
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Penn State leads with 7.5 bonus points
Iowa State 7.0
Nebraska 6.0
Michigan and Ohio State 5.5
Ok solid first round davis seems to jamed a digit but should be OK, Carter can't shimmey around for a take downs and is not 100% but he still dangerous. So MM looks very good , Bernie can beat any skinny leg guy but struggle with thick leg guys , Levi, Brooks, Greg, and maybe MM looking next topicish.
Thank you for this. I have a great setup, but, can't watch all of the others while our guys are going!
Kinda stuff that makes our thread here the hest every year. Never really having to go look fir info. Someone always delivers...
Here's hoping Kasak finds some Nick Lee freshmen magic, and wrestles back to get on the podium
Did Pitt really go 0-7 in that round? If so,
RE: Davis.
“Are you hurt or are you injured?”
Everybody at this tournament is hurt by this time of year.
“Are you hurt or are you injured?”
Everybody at this tournament is hurt by this time of year.
Regretful comments for $200 Alex
Sandals and socks? Huh… I wouldn’t have guessed he’s the sandals and socks kind of guy.uncle Tony sighting
Some of the tougher elimination bouts happening already tonight:
125: 5 Volk vs (former AA) 21 Kaylor
141: 7 Happel vs 10 Jamison
174: 5 Conigliaro vs 12 Kennedy
184: 8 Wolf vs 9 Berge
125: 5 Volk vs (former AA) 21 Kaylor
141: 7 Happel vs 10 Jamison
174: 5 Conigliaro vs 12 Kennedy
184: 8 Wolf vs 9 Berge
we're just playin possum. keep your head on a swivel
Happel-Jamison and Wolf-Berge are rematches from b12s. That is a rough first round consi as a top 10 seed
Also 20 Poulin over 13 Surtin at 125
Nice first round overall. The guys on the backside keep it exciting. Finish tonight with everyone having to make weight in morning.
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