Yeah, she's far from being the sharpest tool in the shed.I was surprised her name was in there too. She's definitely the weak link.
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Yeah, she's far from being the sharpest tool in the shed.I was surprised her name was in there too. She's definitely the weak link.
Lubert was the "hatchet man" for one of the finalists for the job.Considering everything, I think Lubert has gotten off easy so far. I heard he shopped the HC position during the off season....2011 calling the Virginia Coach Mike London, who hasn't set the world on fire since. When the feces hit the fan, he muscled his stooge Judas into the AD position. I felt like Joyner was the equivalent of CB as GC. Joyner probably intimidated some of the AD Staffers.
One of the things that surprised me was that Stephanie Deviney was a mixed up with heavy hitters like Lubert and Eckel. I would think she is very nervous right now.
In his statement to Freeh, Spanier seemed to remember the '01 emails just fine (the statement is exhibit 2J). I dunno, maybe he's had a head injury since then.If you read your post you'll see you answered your own question. If Spanier said he had no memory of writing the email to Curley, doesn't that open the possibility he never wrote them? A person can't remember an email they never sent. At the time Spanier likely had no reason to suspect anyone would falsify an email so he assumed he must have written it even though he admitted he didn't recall doing so.
That said, while a lot of things surrounding the emails seem fishy I'll believe they were intentionally altered when there is some solid proof. A message board poster implying wrongdoing doesn't do it for me just as someone like you saying they know the truth doesn't do it for me either.
I suspect he was brought back when the Old Guard saw Masser and Barron starting to drive the car over the cliff. Masser blew it in his deposition with the NCAA....revealed there was no death penalty ultimatum.Would make sense Ira was brought back as an enforcer, should anyone dare show weakness.
Great job, Ray....still a ways to go and I am not completely on board yet, but keep up the good work!If you actually took the time to do some research, you'd know that the defendants got the exact same (paper) copies of the emails in the Freeh Report.
Thank you for asking about the other errors on that email. It has the WRONG SIGNATURE BLOCK. It should be Schultz's at the bottom, not Spanier's.
There are five emails from 2001, two of the five have html tags and three do not. It his was simply an error caused from a transfer from Eudora to Outlook, then all five would have the error.
Also two emails from the 1998 group have problems. On one the time and date stamps are out of order (Exhibit 2B). Exhibit 2C contains and extra address box and Harmon's response from the previous chain/thread of emails has been deleted.
There are a number of things the attorneys for the defendants didn't consider.In his statement to Freeh, Spanier seemed to remember the '01 emails just fine (the statement is exhibit 2J). I dunno, maybe he's had a head injury since then.
And that makes three times Spanier has had an opportunity to challenge the authenticity of the emails since they became public and he hasn't done so.
psu00, you and I have been harping on this for the better part of three years now. Not going to happen, even though we keep trying. Ever notice how the direct questions never get answered? To wit, see my question to Ray earlier in this thread. Pretty benign I'd say. No response. While I appreciate the work and dedication, I've become just a bit skeptical of some of these type of posts.Well then- please tell us what you know because right now I'd love the state to run the school (if you only knew how out of character that is for me- never thought I'd ever say something like that). .
Seriously, I wish people would speak up if they know something. Keeping everything hidden in cryptic posts does not help the situation. Please- let us all in on what you know.
If I didn't answer something, please let me know what it was and I'll do my best to answer it. However, if you are asking me to disclose non-public information, then no, I don't answer those types of questions.psu00, you and I have been harping on this for the better part of three years now. Not going to happen, even though we keep trying. Ever notice how the direct questions never get answered? To wit, see my question to Ray earlier in this thread. Pretty benign I'd say. No response. While I appreciate the work and dedication, I've become just a bit skeptical of some of these type of posts.
Blehar is exposing the penn state trustee amateur hour.
That guy is a super sleuth. I guess that mean old levee is gonna break sooner than I thought for those corrupt penn state trustees.
We would never have trusted gutless erickson, eckel and devinney. Eckel is a lightweight wannabe and he has been held at arms length. Devinney is laughable and a nothing.
They have no morals. I told you we have no respect for any of them and they will have to watch their backs because of frazier, corbett and others.
Now casino lubert is a different story. He should have known better and that is cause for concern. He is not the type to go down without throwing others off the boat before him. I suspect he will be actively involved protecting his interests, if you know what I mean. Besides he is very good friends with your old governor fast eddie.
You do know fast eddie is connected? He gave us the chance to make some dinero in the poconos. But he still owes us for getting him out of the emperor's club escort fiasco. Spitzer was taken down, not your governor. You see, spitzer double crossed the paisans. Eddie knows better.
I see Levinson mentioned judge ciaverelia. He was sentencing those luzerne kids for money kickbacks. Another person in authority that got too greedy. These people make me sick.
Blehar is going to break this penn state trustee case even without the federals.
But the federals are needed for the second mile.
I am glad that I gave up painting houses, but I can still dream.
Ciao, I miei amici
Ray, as always, thanks for the mighty efforts. A question.....when do you think this comes to a head? My concern is that we'll have to wit for the Paterno trial.If I didn't answer something, please let me know what it was and I'll do my best to answer it. However, if you are asking me to disclose non-public information, then no, I don't answer those types of questions.
BTW, Friday's post revealed information I had been sitting on for nearly two years. I could have scooped Don Van Natta on McQ's gambling debt and a whole host of other things. That's not my deal....my deal is to make sure the wrongs are righted. I'm not interested in winning publicity contests.
Thanks,
Ray
Hey, Ray, if the emails are fraudulent, why didn't Spanier say so in his lengthy interviews with the New Yorker and New York Times? Here's what he said about the 2001 emails:
He said he had no memory of writing the email in response to Curley in 2001, but now regrets that he used the word “vulnerable,” which many have taken to mean that he already knew that something inappropriate or criminal had occurred. “I didn’t,” he said. “I think what it meant was that if he didn’t get the message and stop bringing boys into the locker rooms, we could be open to criticism. Obviously, in retrospect, using the word was a bad choice. But who would think that 13 years later someone would focus in on that one word?”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/m...ham-spanier-penn-states-ousted-president.html
And am I correct that you surmise that the 2001 emails are phoney because in one place Curley had two spaces after a period whereas in others he had one?
You are looking in the wrong place if you expect to find dissenters. The people you are talking about got where they are in life by conforming with the company narrative.I ask myself why the BOT won't release the Freeh related emails, and it occurs to me that it's not easy to keep a large group unified. 18 trustees oppose a further investigation. Are they all hiding something? Why do they all go along? There has to be some dissent, right?
I ask myself why the BOT won't release the Freeh related emails, and it occurs to me that it's not easy to keep a large group unified. 18 trustees oppose a further investigation. Are they all hiding something? Why do they all go along? There has to be some dissent, right?
Your problem, like many others are making the same mistake, is that you are reading too much into the emails/quotes. These were conversational emails and not a formal letters where one would take several iterations of reading/editing to insure that they were using the right words to get their point across. When you email your friends, do you spend extra time insure that everything you have written is correct?
In his statement to Freeh, Spanier seemed to remember the '01 emails just fine (the statement is exhibit 2J). I dunno, maybe he's had a head injury since then.
And that makes three times Spanier has had an opportunity to challenge the authenticity of the emails since they became public and he hasn't done so.
I've never heard Spanier complain. Maybe Spanier insisted.Not for nothing, but isn't exhibit 2J in itself a violation of this mysterious confidentiality agreement RE Freeh that the university has with the interviewees? Inquiring minds want to know.
I've never heard Spanier complain. Maybe Spanier insisted.
Is this the best you got after it's demonstrated to you that Spanier has made vastly conflicting statements regarding the emails?
Paterno v. NCAA will probably go first, then Spanier's defamation suit.Ray, as always, thanks for the mighty efforts. A question.....when do you think this comes to a head? My concern is that we'll have to wit for the Paterno trial.
Where was it demonstrated the Spanier made "vastly conflicting statements" about the emails.I've never heard Spanier complain. Maybe Spanier insisted.
Is this the best you got after it's demonstrated to you that Spanier has made vastly conflicting statements regarding the emails?
I take everything Graham Spanier says about the Sandusky scandal with a grain of salt.Where was it demonstrated the Spanier made "vastly conflicting statements" about the emails.
He has been very consistent that he has no recollection of the 1998 emails. As for his statements about the 2001 email -- take those with a grain of salt.
Like his attorneys, through the discovery process Graham has learned a lot about what happened behind the scenes from 2009 to 2012.
Ray, any thoughts on the timing of the CSS trials? My guess is that they will continued to be delayed because of the Sandusky appeal, if it goes forward. Thoughts on the Sandusky appeal?Paterno v. NCAA will probably go first, then Spanier's defamation suit.
Given all of the directions money flowed in this scandal, I expect the Feds to be at it a while. That said, they have only been on the case for two years -- and these types of cases are known to take 2 - 7 years to investigate.
The delay has nothing to do with the Sandusky appeal....and I don't think their case will ever see the inside of a courtroom.Ray, any thoughts on the timing of the CSS trials? My guess is that they will continued to be delayed because of the Sandusky appeal, if it goes forward. Thoughts on the Sandusky appeal?
Ray, Any guess about the timing when CSS settles?The delay has nothing to do with the Sandusky appeal....and I don't think their case will ever see the inside of a courtroom.
Regarding the Sandusky appeal, I don't think his new lawyer is much better than Amendola. He put some rather incriminating information in Sandusky's appeal that the prosecution didn't bring up at the trial. He also skipped some of the obvious blunders made by Amendola.
Well let's see....We have Harmon who at the minimum buried the 98 report and of course he knew nothing about 01. Anyone seen old Tommy lately or is he relocated?Then let us not respect the fact that Gricar and others in the CCDA's office passed on prosecuting JS or questioning why his access to kids would not be monitored. How many local judges endorsed JS for adopting and foster parenting? The social workers were real champions as CYS and DPW didn't even go through the motions of protecting at risk kids in CC. Then there is JR and his minions who exclaimed" are you trying to tell me the JS is a ped?"I take everything Graham Spanier says about the Sandusky scandal with a grain of salt.
I take everything Graham Spanier says about the Sandusky scandal with a grain of salt.
I think the Commonwealth wants the case in limbo -- until the Feds give them a reason to drop it. Spanier, Curley and Schultz are not going to broker any deals.Ray, Any guess about the timing when CSS settles?
I believe if you are looking for a broader scope of truth you all should e wishing mikes lawsuit to get to trial. I believe it covers a broader scope of issues than the paterno suit over a much longer time period.
I think the Commonwealth wants the case in limbo -- until the Feds give them a reason to drop it. Spanier, Curley and Schultz are not going to broker any deals.
Of course, it would be really interesting if it turned out the emails were subject to tampering. I suspect there would be finger pointing in all kinds of directions. The AG would blame PSU. PSU would blame Freeh. Freeh would blame PSU.