Erickson's Notebook Reveals Deceptions, Possible Crimes
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Considering everything, I think Lubert has gotten off easy so far. I heard he shopped the HC position during the off season....2011 calling the Virginia Coach Mike London, who hasn't set the world on fire since. When the feces hit the fan, he muscled his stooge Judas into the AD position. I felt like Joyner was the equivalent of CB as GC. Joyner probably intimidated some of the AD Staffers.
Fox Rothschild has some strong ties to Penn State. She was not there by accident, though I get the feeling the big boys and girls didn't really keep her in the loop. Maybe she lacked the proper pedigree.
In his statement to Freeh, Spanier seemed to remember the '01 emails just fine (the statement is exhibit 2J). I dunno, maybe he's had a head injury since then.
And that makes three times Spanier has had an opportunity to challenge the authenticity of the emails since they became public and he hasn't done so.
I suspect he was brought back when the Old Guard saw Masser and Barron starting to drive the car over the cliff. Masser blew it in his deposition with the NCAA....revealed there was no death penalty ultimatum.
I don't think Masser was really an insider. Looks to me like Tom Poole, as secretary, is probably steering the ship right now.
Great job, Ray....still a ways to go and I am not completely on board yet, but keep up the good work!
There are a number of things the attorneys for the defendants didn't consider.
For example, Spanier was the first to file that the FTR charges weren't applicable to him because he was not a mandated reporter. He was charged a year after Tim and Gary. Shortly after Spanier filed, their attorneys followed.
The legal teams also didn't consider the fact that Harmon was a mandated reporter and had an incentive to lie about not getting a report in 2001. It took them nearly two years to ask for emails and communications of Harmon.
The legal teams were not aware of the child abuse investigation protocols and how they differed between child abuse complaints (registered with the state) and general protective services complaints (not registered) and that the county had the discretion to make that determination. In September 2014, they requested discovery from Centre County regarding their protocols.
You can throw history out the window. The legal teams of C/S/S have learned quite a bit that they didn't know back when the preliminary hearing was held in July 2013. I am quite certain the emails will be subject to an evidentiary hearing in the future.
psu00, you and I have been harping on this for the better part of three years now. Not going to happen, even though we keep trying. Ever notice how the direct questions never get answered? To wit, see my question to Ray earlier in this thread. Pretty benign I'd say. No response. While I appreciate the work and dedication, I've become just a bit skeptical of some of these type of posts.Well then- please tell us what you know because right now I'd love the state to run the school (if you only knew how out of character that is for me- never thought I'd ever say something like that)..
Seriously, I wish people would speak up if they know something. Keeping everything hidden in cryptic posts does not help the situation. Please- let us all in on what you know.
Blehar is exposing the penn state trustee amateur hour.
That guy is a super sleuth. I guess that mean old levee is gonna break sooner than I thought for those corrupt penn state trustees.
We would never have trusted gutless erickson, eckel and devinney. Eckel is a lightweight wannabe and he has been held at arms length. Devinney is laughable and a nothing.
They have no morals. I told you we have no respect for any of them and they will have to watch their backs because of frazier, corbett and others.
Now casino lubert is a different story. He should have known better and that is cause for concern. He is not the type to go down without throwing others off the boat before him. I suspect he will be actively involved protecting his interests, if you know what I mean. Besides he is very good friends with your old governor fast eddie.
You do know fast eddie is connected? He gave us the chance to make some dinero in the poconos. But he still owes us for getting him out of the emperor's club escort fiasco. Spitzer was taken down, not your governor. You see, spitzer double crossed the paisans. Eddie knows better.
I see Levinson mentioned judge ciaverelia. He was sentencing those luzerne kids for money kickbacks. Another person in authority that got too greedy. These people make me sick.
Blehar is going to break this penn state trustee case even without the federals.
But the federals are needed for the second mile.
I am glad that I gave up painting houses, but I can still dream.
Ciao, I miei amici
That guy is a super sleuth. I guess that mean old levee is gonna break sooner than I thought for those corrupt penn state trustees.
We would never have trusted gutless erickson, eckel and devinney. Eckel is a lightweight wannabe and he has been held at arms length. Devinney is laughable and a nothing.
They have no morals. I told you we have no respect for any of them and they will have to watch their backs because of frazier, corbett and others.
Now casino lubert is a different story. He should have known better and that is cause for concern. He is not the type to go down without throwing others off the boat before him. I suspect he will be actively involved protecting his interests, if you know what I mean. Besides he is very good friends with your old governor fast eddie.
You do know fast eddie is connected? He gave us the chance to make some dinero in the poconos. But he still owes us for getting him out of the emperor's club escort fiasco. Spitzer was taken down, not your governor. You see, spitzer double crossed the paisans. Eddie knows better.
I see Levinson mentioned judge ciaverelia. He was sentencing those luzerne kids for money kickbacks. Another person in authority that got too greedy. These people make me sick.
Blehar is going to break this penn state trustee case even without the federals.
But the federals are needed for the second mile.
I am glad that I gave up painting houses, but I can still dream.
Ciao, I miei amici
If I didn't answer something, please let me know what it was and I'll do my best to answer it. However, if you are asking me to disclose non-public information, then no, I don't answer those types of questions.
BTW, Friday's post revealed information I had been sitting on for nearly two years. I could have scooped Don Van Natta on McQ's gambling debt and a whole host of other things. That's not my deal....my deal is to make sure the wrongs are righted. I'm not interested in winning publicity contests.
Thanks,
Ray
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Ray, as always, thanks for the mighty efforts. A question.....when do you think this comes to a head? My concern is that we'll have to wit for the Paterno trial.
I ask myself why the BOT won't release the Freeh related emails, and it occurs to me that it's not easy to keep a large group unified. 18 trustees oppose a further investigation. Are they all hiding something? Why do they all go along? There has to be some dissent, right?
Your problem, like many others are making the same mistake, is that you are reading too much into the emails/quotes. These were conversational emails and not a formal letters where one would take several iterations of reading/editing to insure that they were using the right words to get their point across. When you email your friends, do you spend extra time insure that everything you have written is correct?
You are looking in the wrong place if you expect to find dissenters. The people you are talking about got where they are in life by conforming with the company narrative.
True dat. These guys are in these non-executive BOT positions precisely because they will only follow the company line. They are hand-picked losers with no ability for original thought or action. They vote predictably and agree to not think and to sell what little self-respect that they have left.
As a group, it is amazing that they can even find this many total sycophants.
As a group, it is amazing that they can even find this many total sycophants.
Are all 18 in the same boat, whatever that boat is? There has been some turnover in that group since 2011. The replacements appear to be like-minded, but are they in the same boat as the ones they replaced?
Assuming all 18 at any point (i.e., accounting for turnover) are on the same ground in protecting something, I can't believe they all have the same stake in protecting whatever it is that is being protected. Thus, some must be thinking of saving themselves. Otherwise, what hold do the few have over the rest? Perhaps whatever is behind this is not limited to these trustees. Maybe it involves the state government. There must be some outside powerful influence involved. I don't think any of these trustees wield enough power on their own to take hold of the entire group.
I want all of these suits to go to trial, and I want CSS to go to trial. The power brokers are avoiding getting any of the real players under oath, and there must be a very good reason for that.
there are (in my mind) 5 or 6 bullet points that undermine the Freeh narrative because they make no damn sense
the emails are SO pedestrian, so conversational, it defies imagination that these men were discussing the sexual abuse of a young child.
one would think there would be at least one email with a sense of moral uncertainty about their course of action. "cmon guys, we're talking about covering up the molestation of a small child!!!" unless C/S/S/P are all textbook sociopaths, it makes no sense that their conversational tone was about anything other than thinking Sandusky was just showering with young man and it made MM uncomfortable
Not for nothing, but isn't exhibit 2J in itself a violation of this mysterious confidentiality agreement RE Freeh that the university has with the interviewees? Inquiring minds want to know.
I've never heard Spanier complain. Maybe Spanier insisted.
Is this the best you got after it's demonstrated to you that Spanier has made vastly conflicting statements regarding the emails?
would matter if he complained? What about all others who were interviewed and do not wish for their interviews to be kept confidential. Case in point; Jay Paterno. Do you think he wants his Freeh interview kept confidential? Would it matter if Jay (and anyone else for that matter) asked that his interview notes be publicized? He did ask for them for the purposes of his book and was told no. That's what the Upjohn warning was all about; only the university has confidentiality and will use it or waive based on the university's best interests. So why is keeping all this stuff secret, and lying about the reason, somehow in the university's best interests when exposure would shut all the dissidents like me up? That's not a rhetorical question, I'd like to hear your answer. Why is the university insisting on keeping a promise that was never made, was not kept, and in many cases is not wanted? That's not a rhetorical question either, I'd like to hear your answer. As it stands, the university looks very, very much like a bunch of people with something to hide. Why are you on their side? Do you have something to hide as well?
Paterno v. NCAA will probably go first, then Spanier's defamation suit.
Given all of the directions money flowed in this scandal, I expect the Feds to be at it a while. That said, they have only been on the case for two years -- and these types of cases are known to take 2 - 7 years to investigate.
Where was it demonstrated the Spanier made "vastly conflicting statements" about the emails.
He has been very consistent that he has no recollection of the 1998 emails. As for his statements about the 2001 email -- take those with a grain of salt.
Like his attorneys, through the discovery process Graham has learned a lot about what happened behind the scenes from 2009 to 2012.
I take everything Graham Spanier says about the Sandusky scandal with a grain of salt.
Ray, any thoughts on the timing of the CSS trials? My guess is that they will continued to be delayed because of the Sandusky appeal, if it goes forward. Thoughts on the Sandusky appeal?
The delay has nothing to do with the Sandusky appeal....and I don't think their case will ever see the inside of a courtroom.
Regarding the Sandusky appeal, I don't think his new lawyer is much better than Amendola. He put some rather incriminating information in Sandusky's appeal that the prosecution didn't bring up at the trial. He also skipped some of the obvious blunders made by Amendola.
Well let's see....We have Harmon who at the minimum buried the 98 report and of course he knew nothing about 01. Anyone seen old Tommy lately or is he relocated?Then let us not respect the fact that Gricar and others in the CCDA's office passed on prosecuting JS or questioning why his access to kids would not be monitored. How many local judges endorsed JS for adopting and foster parenting? The social workers were real champions as CYS and DPW didn't even go through the motions of protecting at risk kids in CC. Then there is JR and his minions who exclaimed" are you trying to tell me the JS is a ped?"
It makes all the sense in the world that this was a PSU problem! You can put all the salt you want on this BS narrative and it doesn't taste good. What kind of person has an interest in pinning this mess on PSU? I think we know.
One thing I will agree with you on. But I feel that way about most of the players in this thing, either side....
I think the Commonwealth wants the case in limbo -- until the Feds give them a reason to drop it. Spanier, Curley and Schultz are not going to broker any deals.
Of course, it would be really interesting if it turned out the emails were subject to tampering. I suspect there would be finger pointing in all kinds of directions. The AG would blame PSU. PSU would blame Freeh. Freeh would blame PSU.
I think Mike's argument that he was a "whistleblower" is completely laughable but I'm happy to see his case proceed. He's got a right to his day in court just like everyone else, and it would certainly put the trustees in a bind.
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