So this dreamer wins the rematch and you dreamers are calling him one of the greatest. The great white hype train is moving and once again it will derailed by a human from mother AFRICA. .
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So this dreamer wins the rematch and you dreamers are calling him one of the greatest. The great white hype train is moving and once again it will derailed by a human from mother AFRICA. .
By ESPN do you mean Max Kellerman?Height confers a tremendous advantage. The ESPN sports science stuff is really good. It is really the only programming on the whole network which I find interesting. Throwing a punch on a downward trajectory gives the benefit of from 10-40% more sensory information than throwing upward. Try it some time. Tuck your chin and look up with your eyes. Now lean back and look down.
A matchup of heavyweights would mean the taller fighter has about a 10% advantage but when we are talking about fighters with similar reaction time that is huge. The idea that Wilder is some kind of stiff because he is unpolished is ridiculous. He has about a 7 foot wingspan and gets off his right hand in roughly .2 seconds and delivers a punch with nearly 1400 foot pounds of pressure. Freddie Roach, Fury’s trainer, figured out that pressuring Wilder and getting closer to him is the way to beat him because he can’t fight in close, mostly because he has never had to do so.
I don’t see any way a guy like Ali, who would give up between 6 or 7 inches to Fury and 50 pounds, would come close to hurting him. Watch the Rumble in the Jungle. Ali’s rope-a-dope isn’t some genius strategy. It was desperation. He said himself many times in the aftermath of the fight that he realIzed in round one that he had no other recourse because George was so incredible at cuttting off the ring. Ali’s chin was truly elite and he never quit, but how would he hurt a guy the size of Fury? He didn’t punch that hard relative to heavyweights of his own time much less today.
So are the people saying that this guy can be one best BOXERS ever. Apparently, not just heavyweight.There is a sports science episode ESPN put out you can look up. Reaction time refers not to how fast one can jab, but to how fast one can recognize a punch is coming and slip it. Fury has an unbelievable ability to recognize a punch is coming and to slip it and fire back. The people in this thread deriding the modern heavyweights have really zero idea about boxing.
By ESPN do you mean Max Kellerman?
Need to do more than dominate a tomato can to be considered among the greatest. The heavyweight division has been a joke for years.
Note that Ali obliterated Ernie Terrell who stood 6'6" and had an 82" reach. Not much smaller than Fury or Wilder.Height confers a tremendous advantage. The ESPN sports science stuff is really good. It is really the only programming on the whole network which I find interesting. Throwing a punch on a downward trajectory gives the benefit of from 10-40% more sensory information than throwing upward. Try it some time. Tuck your chin and look up with your eyes. Now lean back and look down.
A matchup of heavyweights would mean the taller fighter has about a 10% advantage but when we are talking about fighters with similar reaction time that is huge. The idea that Wilder is some kind of stiff because he is unpolished is ridiculous. He has about a 7 foot wingspan and gets off his right hand in roughly .2 seconds and delivers a punch with nearly 1400 foot pounds of pressure. Freddie Roach, Fury’s trainer, figured out that pressuring Wilder and getting closer to him is the way to beat him because he can’t fight in close, mostly because he has never had to do so.
I don’t see any way a guy like Ali, who would give up between 6 or 7 inches to Fury and 50 pounds, would come close to hurting him. Watch the Rumble in the Jungle. Ali’s rope-a-dope isn’t some genius strategy. It was desperation. He said himself many times in the aftermath of the fight that he realIzed in round one that he had no other recourse because George was so incredible at cuttting off the ring. Ali’s chin was truly elite and he never quit, but how would he hurt a guy the size of Fury? He didn’t punch that hard relative to heavyweights of his own time much less today.
you forgot Terry Donovan.It was the endless hours spent in a gym while working with experienced trainers that made boxing a pleasure to watch back in the day. Great trainers like Angelo Dundee, Eddie Futch, Manny Steward, D'Amato and Freddie Roach would take a young kid with natural talent and groom them to be a great fighters. When was the last time we saw a "Conditioned" Heavyweight slip a punch and throw a three punch combination that included a stiff jab, hook to the body and a right cross in the center of the ring without breaking stride or as many would say, a choreographed combination? I've watched numerous videos of Leonard, Frazier, Ali, Duran and Holmes in training camps leading up to huge fights, 10 weeks of hellish conditioning. During the 70's and 80's both Fury and Wilder would have been considered Ham & Egger opponents at best.
Good read here...Note that Ali obliterated Ernie Terrell who stood 6'6" and had an 82" reach. Not much smaller than Fury or Wilder.
What do people have against Wilder? The guy was 42-0-1 in his career before this past weekend with 41 KOs.
Kellerman has his own boxing show on the Deuce. I don’t tune in but I’ve seen him talk at length about boxing and he is very knowledgeable and quite fascinating. That’s why I asked.No. As far as I know Kellerman has nothing to do with the sports science segments. If he did it would be the same old trash with him arguing with the moron who insisted Dwayne Haskins is a “running” quarterback.
I miss Iron Mike walking fast to the ring with just an old towel with a cut out for his head draped over him. No nonsense, all business, and more intimidating than the theatrics.Something to be said for catching a ride to the ring.
lol poor guyWilder is now saying the weight of his pre fight costume made him tired. But remember, he isn’t making any excuses.