What I get from this thread is that MSU brought it and it had us PSU fans coming back down to reality!!!!!
Again good job MSU, UM should be looking up at you now!!!!!!
Again good job MSU, UM should be looking up at you now!!!!!!
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He’s had a disappointing year. Really liked him out of HS. Top 5 kid at his weight the last 2 years out of Cali. Daniel Cormier product out of Gilroy. Think he can go with anyone at this best, just hasn’t been consistent.
The 157 match was the mat h of the year.
Levi did get the reversal with w sec left, that match was in sane....
I did think they (the refs) went in favor of Levi one time which I did not care for, kinda tasted it. But saldate was solid, gave nothing and had Levi almost counting lights a few times.
Levi did get the reversal with w sec left, that match was in sane....
I did think they (the refs) went in favor of Levi one time which I did not care for, kinda tasted it. But saldate was solid, gave nothing and had Levi almost counting lights a few times.
Or just say you made a mistake and move on. It’s really pretty simple.
In other matches:
Arizona State beat Pitt 21-20 on criteria after Pitzer defaulted to Schultz with a shoulder injury. Schultz was up 4-2 in the 3rd at the time.
Hopefully Pitzer isn't too badly injured.
Arizona State beat Pitt 21-20 on criteria after Pitzer defaulted to Schultz with a shoulder injury. Schultz was up 4-2 in the 3rd at the time.
Hopefully Pitzer isn't too badly injured.
He wasn't necessarily stronger, but Levi didn't finish from neutral. Levi actually was the stronger from period 3 onward.
Right now we have 2 guys who are not finishing in Aaron and Levi. Otherwise we have zero problems.
I liked Saldate coming out of hs and his coach was Cormier. He seemed like he had a huge ceiling and would have fit in nicely with psu’s coaching.
Or if you are looking for a single source to find the entirety of someone's wrestling history. Their rankings may suck but it doesn't negate that it is a useful place for wrestling info.
I’m not too worried about Levi. Maybe it’s the weight cut, or maybe he’s just hitting a little bit of a sophomore slump. Last year he was the hunter and now he’s the hunted. Maybe some wrestlers have figured out ways to wrestle him. Now it’s time for Levi to make some adjustments. He’s not wrestling his best right now, but he still winning. Nationals are two months away. I’m keeping my money on Levi to win the title.
Hopefully not call the life insurance company
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Don’t forget Haines would have cut weight 2 out of the last 3 days. Only one day off from the Michigan match. By the way, both matches on the road. If you’re struggling with losing weight that’s not an easy ask.
Completely agree, he’s a treasure!!
I go to Penn State sports web site (gopsusports.com), click on the main menu bar and select "multimedia". There is a link to Lionvision there that works every time.Change the station to the correct radio station or go to the app.
I typically use the app. I’ve found I can’t pause it when I stream the radio.
Just a guess, but perhaps Levi likes his chances of winning a championship at 157 better than 165.
Things that make you go "hmmm..." Aaron Brooks had more takedowns in the first period today than Michigan and Michigan State did against Penn State for the entire weekend.
Relax yourself a little. Rutgers beat Michigan State relatively comfortably on Friday and got smoked by Michigan today.
Looked like Pitzer's shoulder came out of socket. Trainer put back in and happened a second time. Yes, let's hope it isn't too badly injured.
Did anyone notice after Levi’s win with the reversal, everyone was going crazy, but Cael never got up off his chair? Think it’s safe to say he’s a lot less worried about Levi than we are 😆
In that NCAA final, Haines was a true freshman going against a 6th year guy (O’Conner) with grown man strength.
But Haines seems plenty strong. So does Saldate.
It is noteworthy that Levi showed no panic and remained confident throughout the Saldate match. At one point in OT he clearly wanted to go neutral when he had choice, conveying self-assurance that he could get the takedown and negate the gifted escape point. The coaches told him to take down and he complied.
Impressive and bodes well for the rest of his season.
After seeing the comments on here during the match about how bad the two commentators were, and then watching the replay and hearing them ......that was f'n hilarious!
As someone said, that had to be a bit, or maybe they just pulled two guys off the street who had two hours to kill. You gotta love the 5-point takedown + reversal!
Consider yourself lucky. Everybody knows about that. Few have consistent success with it.
Most of us have an occasional match where that works, but more likely random drops, and occasionally Lionvision playing music so we have to go find Byers elsewhere.
On Friday, Lowe's ads in Spanish played each time Lionvision started up. I got a solid refresher course with all of the drops -- who needs Coursera or Babbel or Duolingo anyway?
Note to self: North Carolina doesn't have the internet. 😀
Thanks for the updates fellas, on Vacation in North Carolina and couldn’t listen or watch today.
Levi looking like a one trick pony on offense, high crotch and ?. He needs more attacks or guys will sit onnhis signature move.
QUENTIN WRIGHT NEEDS TO DUMP HIS GIRLFRIEND !!!!I've heard from a reliable source that Levi got himself a girlfriend.
Levi wrestled last year with a torn meniscus and did just fine. If there is something wrong him he and the staff will figure it out. It's only January.
Seriously? We need to find/create reasons why our resourceful, undefeated 157 isn’t providing us larger margins of victory? Must be weight cutting. Or that injury he’s hiding. Or the pressure of a #1 ranking. Or life in the shadow of lightning in a bottle. Can it ever just be another young man equally committed to the same tough sport, perhaps a bit stronger if not as skilled, with added motivation of battling the top guy in front of his home crowd, wrestling one helluva match?
Thing that impresses me about Levi is his “will to win.” Whether he’s dinged up, weight issues or this is who he is..bottom line the kids a winner. He refuses to lose. It’s tough to beat guys that have that inner strength. I thought Saldate had him dead to rights a couple times, and Levi just willed thru it and refused to lose.
Many of our guys have this quality and it’s pretty damned impressive.
Many of our guys have this quality and it’s pretty damned impressive.
No doubt Levi is strong. I was just commenting that those 2 opponents were stronger than him.
There is nothing wrong with that. Body frame, genes and weight cut can dictate that.
I thought the longer the match went the advantage became Levi's. Most muscle bound wrestlers have trouble with the gas tank. The numerous stoppages helped Saldate. If you watch ,the first little stoppage was when Seldate wanted blood time. Cunningham is in background irritated that match was stopped.
I think next time they meet Levi and staff will look for more leg attacks and avoid upper body.
While I think it's possible that there IS something wrong with Levi, I tend to agree with you. I feel the same way about Beau Bartlett, who gets beat up constantly for his close wins. Damn, they're wrestling ranked guys who also want to win and each has found a way to win every single match. I'm OK with it. If we learn after the season is over that Levi was going through something, then we should discuss, but for now he's fine and doing as expected.
It’s just perspective & expectations. He was winning matches like this last year, and they were considered landmark wins for a true freshman. This year they’re considered disappointing for a #1 ranked sophomore. The only thing that changed is our expectations. His bonus rate is higher than last year. I’m not worried about Levi. He might even, get this, lose a match, and I still won’t be worried.
It doesn’t help that Mesenbrink has come in and looked like a generational world beater right above him then Starocci is the odds on favorite for the Hodge with a 100% bonus rate after that.
LOL you would think whoever has these people working wrestling they would at least give them a quick update on how this sport works points etc etc so sad
They probably did, but if you’re watching wrestling and aren’t familiar with it, it’s hard to know what you’re seeing.
Agree + a lot of what we see has to do with our expectations. Last year he was coming into the line up and exceeding expectations every step of the way. That trajectory was never going to be sustainable. This year, …. he is ranked #1 and we “fans” more or less expect him to trample everyone in his path. I’m sure Levi and his coaches have a plan and that it involves peaking in March. For now we should perhaps not view him as Zain like and enjoy a stud working his way through his true Soph season.
All interesting observations, and I think ultimately, most of us think come Match Levi will be in peak form and win it all. For the most part the critiques have been quite respectful. Some undeniables though:
1). Our expectations are rediculous, trained by many years of Cael generated Rediculousness. We have come to expect rather than view with wonder Zain, Nolf, Bo like 2nd year jumps.
2). One can't help compare Levi vs Taz going out back to back every match. We are all learning Mitch is a different kind of beast.
3). Last year one of Levi's signature moves was simply pulling in the legs to his chest and powering through a double after he was supposedly caught underneath. He showed uncommon strength and power routinely in that situation. Admittedly I haven't seen that this year. Why? That is a question that seems valid.
4). Some of his close matches have been against good but not great guys. I think this is a valid observation, but as noted if you are top 25 you're a pretty damned good wrestler.
5). Maybe just maybe, training with the Tasmanian devil every day is more humbling than helpful at times, and his confidence has taken a hit. If it ain't working in the room it's harder to pull the trigger live.
All in all, I subscribe to the 'something indeed does appear to just a little'off' with Levi so far. If the rumors of confirmation from his dad are true then he's dealing with something tangible. I don't see evidence of an outright injury. I am not really worried, and even if he were to lose in a dual or at Bigs, you have to see him as the favorite come March. If there is something legit going on, and that stays with him throughout, he has the heart and drive to power through it and prevail anyway.
1). Our expectations are rediculous, trained by many years of Cael generated Rediculousness. We have come to expect rather than view with wonder Zain, Nolf, Bo like 2nd year jumps.
2). One can't help compare Levi vs Taz going out back to back every match. We are all learning Mitch is a different kind of beast.
3). Last year one of Levi's signature moves was simply pulling in the legs to his chest and powering through a double after he was supposedly caught underneath. He showed uncommon strength and power routinely in that situation. Admittedly I haven't seen that this year. Why? That is a question that seems valid.
4). Some of his close matches have been against good but not great guys. I think this is a valid observation, but as noted if you are top 25 you're a pretty damned good wrestler.
5). Maybe just maybe, training with the Tasmanian devil every day is more humbling than helpful at times, and his confidence has taken a hit. If it ain't working in the room it's harder to pull the trigger live.
All in all, I subscribe to the 'something indeed does appear to just a little'off' with Levi so far. If the rumors of confirmation from his dad are true then he's dealing with something tangible. I don't see evidence of an outright injury. I am not really worried, and even if he were to lose in a dual or at Bigs, you have to see him as the favorite come March. If there is something legit going on, and that stays with him throughout, he has the heart and drive to power through it and prevail anyway.
MM vs. Shapiro? Wow.
BTW, I like the nickname of "M&M" for MM because he is sooo good to watch.
Wrestling is a sport of match-up. Some guys just wrestle a style that is a good match-up for another wrestler. It's why the transitive property doesn't work that well in wrestling.
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