Lee VS. Taylor - Debate
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Well, if Desanto beat Lee, no way Lee beats Taylor.
Cue the injury discussion in 3, 2, 1.
Spencer was a 3 timer most likely 4 if not for the injury and Taylor was a 4 timer who bumped up 4 weight classes his Senior year .. So this would be a dream matchup to see IMO.
Spencer won 3 world golds and one silver in MS/HS.
Is this not one of the, if not THE most sucessful HSer (all together) of all time?
FUGETABOUTIT
Is this not one of the, if not THE most sucessful HSer (all together) of all time?
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DT also beat Steiber (4 timer in HS AND college AND Sr. World Champion at 61 KG) in high school in a lightweight bout. It was Steiber's only loss in high school; he went 184-1.
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Plus he’s only 1 of two wrestlers to win the Ironman 4 times.
What about Ditka Vs. a Hurricane? ... But the hurricanes name is Hurricane Ditka.
When Lee is a Sr World Champ talk to me.
This isn’t even a comp to me. At the same weight Taylor gets horsed around by Lee. At the hs level.
Not sure lee beats steiber in high school just saying. I saw a match between steiber and taylor and it was close
I would take kolat in high school against anyone
Agreed, Lee went unscored upon in more than one world championship while in HS. This isnt a fair match. Im as big a DT homer as the next guy but this aint close.
Ditto that. To the original question I would take Lee in HS, push in college, and DT post college, although Lee has a chance to improve on that starting this year.
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Umm ... age group worlds often means 1 takedown + ankle lace roll to quick win.
Reminder that Verk won cadet worlds, did not give up a score in 3 of his 4 matches, yet did not win PA states until his SR year.
Seriously doubt anyone would put Verk up against Taylor at any stage of their careers.
True, but Kolat was a year older than everyone (failed 8th grade on purpose).
I remember well, and havent forgotten how Verk was robbed of Jr year postseason either😉
Im guessing you picked Taylor?
Edit: To Jefe
Im guessing you picked Taylor?
Edit: To Jefe
Also purposedly entered and took 3 rd at Midlands (when midlands was THEE measuring stick) while in HS.
You serious bro??
I know he was great, just pointing out that he did effectively redshirt in high school. Not that uncommon with athletes these days, I guess.
While Kolat's feat was very impressive, Jimmy Carr (Nate's older brother) won the Midlands in high school. He's still the only HS wrestler ever to do it. Spencer Lee hasn't won Midlands yet even in college.
Verk would've been an underdog in that postseason. 3x champ Cam Coy was at his weight, and also in the same regional. Even without Coy, that was not an easy bracket -- Edmund Ruth finished 8th, and some Luke Gardner guy finished 5th.
In any case, yes, I would've taken Taylor. Both were good enough on bottom to negate the other's top scoring. It would've come down to who's better on feet -- and Lee in high school had gotten in the habit of not shooting much because he didn't have to. (1 slide-by, then Lee ends the match on top.)
Also, Taylor's win over Stieber showed he was capable of beating someone at Lee's level. Lee never had a comparable HS folk win (best were FR Sasso, JR DeSanto, and SO Ryan Anderson).
Did Lee have a chance in HS at a "comparable win"? Didn't he wrestle whoever stepped across the mat from him?
His freshman year, Luke Pletcher was 1 weight up. Pletcher was 1 yr ahead of Lee. They would've met at regionals and states.
Lizak and Scott Parker were also in that bracket, so it wouldn't have been just about a 1-on-1 with Pletcher.
I'm saying at any point in their career lol. The post question is spencer lee vs taylor they aren't close to the same age
Did wrestling fans in PA expect Lee to move up and take on those talents then? I don't remember now.
You have your pick of examples to show that age group world medals may not be the best gauge, and you choose Verk as the example, over Richie Lewis?
Sr. David Taylor would’ve Teched Sr. Desanto in the finals, just sayin.
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