Just because you're from a generation of "bend over and take it" doesn't mean they have to do the same. Women, minorities, LGBTQ community, etc are finished taking crap and, they don't care if you approve or not.
Just because you're from a generation of "bend over and take it" doesn't mean they have to do the same. Women, minorities, LGBTQ community, etc are finished taking crap and, they don't care if you approve or not.
Shelton recently has had some other interesting tweets, especially after Spencer left. Could this be his way of trying to push the envelope to get processed? Could he have already been told he is being processed so therefore he doesn't care? Either way, it is negative for recruiting purposes. If he is putting this stuff out online, what is he saying or doing behind closed doors?
Drunk college kids do stupid stuff. Let’s see what he has done in private. I mean we saw the spitting thing and know about the walk into people thing.
Can he take the heat or is he just someone who dishes things out?
Couple of points here:
1) He's young. He is still learning about many things, including race and race relations. I don't know the young man so I have no idea how open he is to learning things or if he just wants to be angry. I also don't know much about his personal history, so maybe he has a lot to be angry about. But all we can ask is that he continue to learn and improve himself (as we all should be trying to do every day).
2) While anyone has the right to offended by anything, if you wake up in the morning looking to be offended, you will find something to be offended by. This is a horrible way to go through life. As others have pointed out, whips appear in western culture in a variety of ways (Indiana Jones, Devo, jockeys, etc) that have nothing to do with slavery. Is he also offended by Ebay auctions? After all, slaves were sold at auction.
Bottom line: he wanted to find something to be offended about. Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he has had a number of bad experiences (whether before arriving to PSU or after) that bias his view. But dialogue is the key. He is allowed to tell people why this offends him, so long as he is open to hearing about how he is probably interpreting it in a way that only makes sense to him.
1) He's young. He is still learning about many things, including race and race relations. I don't know the young man so I have no idea how open he is to learning things or if he just wants to be angry. I also don't know much about his personal history, so maybe he has a lot to be angry about. But all we can ask is that he continue to learn and improve himself (as we all should be trying to do every day).
2) While anyone has the right to offended by anything, if you wake up in the morning looking to be offended, you will find something to be offended by. This is a horrible way to go through life. As others have pointed out, whips appear in western culture in a variety of ways (Indiana Jones, Devo, jockeys, etc) that have nothing to do with slavery. Is he also offended by Ebay auctions? After all, slaves were sold at auction.
Bottom line: he wanted to find something to be offended about. Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he has had a number of bad experiences (whether before arriving to PSU or after) that bias his view. But dialogue is the key. He is allowed to tell people why this offends him, so long as he is open to hearing about how he is probably interpreting it in a way that only makes sense to him.
I'll add my two cents.
1. He's a college kid. College kids are very often super idealistic -- out to save the world.
2. We have no idea what sort of racism he's been subjected to in his lifetime. So we shouldn't judge the validity of the triggers that set him off.
Combine the above, and I don't really have any issue with him questioning the use of a whip in the video. It's his right to be offended. It's your right to disagree with this opinion. But you shouldn't be judging him over it.
1. He's a college kid. College kids are very often super idealistic -- out to save the world.
2. We have no idea what sort of racism he's been subjected to in his lifetime. So we shouldn't judge the validity of the triggers that set him off.
Combine the above, and I don't really have any issue with him questioning the use of a whip in the video. It's his right to be offended. It's your right to disagree with this opinion. But you shouldn't be judging him over it.
I'm thinking they might be judging him more for spitting in an opposing players face, calling out our fans, and generally taking any opportunity to besmirch "this school." This is not a one off thing with Shelton, he is a sh*t stirrer.
Shelton is not happy unless he is crying about racism.
Maybe he can do something about the 10,000 black on black murders each year.
At least he is not spitting on anyone today.
Maybe he can do something about the 10,000 black on black murders each year.
At least he is not spitting on anyone today.
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Here is what Morgan Freeman had to say about Black History Month a few years ago.
Morgan Freeman on Black History Month
Actor Morgan Freeman said on '60 Minutes' that he finds the concept of Black History Month to be 'ridiculous.'
Claim: Actor Morgan Freeman said that he finds the concept of Black History Month to be “ridiculous.”
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Examples: [Collected via e-mail, July 2012]
Is Morgan Freeman quoted as saying he is against Black History Month?
I’ve seen a transcript of a Morgan Freeman interview floating around where he claims the way to stop racism is to stop talking about it, but I’m unsure of its accuracy and its original context, and I was hoping you could give me a hand.
Origins: During a 2005 interview with Mike Wallace for television’s 60 Minutes news magazine program, Academy Award-winning actor Morgan Freeman did say he found the concept of Black History Month to be “ridiculous” and maintained the way to get rid of racism was to “stop talking about it.”
The following video clip and transcript of that portion of Freeman’s 60 Minutes interview document his remarks on the topic in full:
WALLACE: Black History Month, you find …
FREEMAN: Ridiculous.
WALLACE: Why?
FREEMAN: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?
WALLACE: Come on.
FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.
WALLACE: I’m Jewish.
FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?
WALLACE: There isn’t one.
FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?
WALLACE: No, no.
FREEMAN: I don’t either. I don’t want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.
WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until …?
FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You’re not going to say, “I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.” Hear what I’m saying?
Last updated: 31 January 2016
It's hard not to read this in Morgan Freeman's voice.....
We can judge his actions. We do that with people all the time, every day. He chooses to put his actions out for public consumption it's fair to say his actions are silly, manufactured and completely unhelpful for any serious discussion of race. His actions show he is not a person to be taken seriously.
It's not, but other than the spitting incident, I don't think he's said or done anything else that wouldn't be covered by my previous post. He's a young, african american college dude who has strong opinions.
Fair enough, I find him to be a young african american college dude with negative opinions of those surrounding him, whether it be fans, coeds, or opposing players. I think he is insecure and I don't think his form of virtue signaling fosters a productive impact on the issues he rails against. To each his own.
Tweeting an opinion on a video is an action? Okay then. I disagree. But I'm not going to debate this all day. I said my two cents and I'm done here.
If I have anything to tell to my young college dude self it would be “Shut the fvck up. You don’t know shit.”
It is in today's world. Kids do things and interact virtually. Perhaps it is part of the problem with us not being able to talk disagreements out reasonably. People are losing the personal interaction. Perhaps if these two students knew each other and talked in person, they would be friends instead of one assuming that the other is racist and tweeting it to the public.
Maybe a reaction? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Yep, then again would you have listened at that age? He'll grow up hopefully and maybe realize to pick and choose his battles a bit more carefully. At the very least hopefully someone will explain to him that you don't cry boohoo over every little thing you don't like seeing.
It would depend on what it’s about. But yeah probably not. I can’t say for certain. I don’t have thousands of twitter followers with members of the media following along. Back then regardless of what I said it never made it out of my apartment for all to hear and dissect.
Honest question and I don't know the answer. Could the kid on the lion sue shelton for defamation or have any recourse legally? I mean, if you are called a racist publicly, do you have any options to protect yourself? I am not a lawyer, I have no idea.
I highly suggest Glenn Loury and John McWhorters talks on race. They are exactly what we need at this time.
Glenn is a right leaning economist and John is left leaning linguist although, they tend to meet in the middle in these issues.
Glenn is a right leaning economist and John is left leaning linguist although, they tend to meet in the middle in these issues.
It’s just words to me. And going off the old adage “actions speak louder than words”, I’m saying tweeting is just words not an action.
Like I said above, I’ve given my two cents and I’m not going to debate this all day. You have your opinions, I have mine. Respect.
To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.
Valid point. Social media can really be a bad thing for kids trying to grow up. There is an electronic record of all the immature thoughts they have that can be brought up with college applications, job applications, running for office someday, etc.That's on top of the tremendous social pressures that social media can weigh on them. A joke in homeroom could be community-wide in minutes or an ex taking things to social media could have a kid thinking their life is over. Hopefully we/parents can put good controls on this in the future to help kids out.
Thank you, the kid may have a case for 1, 2, 3 but it probably falls apart for 4.
But it’s alright for him to judge someone he doesn’t know who is goofing around doing a lion tamer impression?
Judge not lest you be judged.
Such a good point....the angels on this site that are raging over this didn't have twitter back in their day....and I'm sure it was a good thing for at least a few of them....one for certain.
I took it he was being critical of PSUBarstool, not the lion cowboy. I could be wrong, but that's what I got out of the three video series he posted.
I'm not particularly enamored with how Shelton has conducted himself recently either. But I am also astounded by the clear double standard that we place on OUR athletes as Penn State fans. Shelton is getting more responses to dismiss him from our team for a tweet than the 2 Ohio State rapists and kidnappers did when that news broke recently.
You had 2 Ohio State football players who raped a woman, kidnapped her, made her say that it was consensual on video while they laughed and then made her shower evidence away while they watched. And several people on this site were very much in the camp to wait for more information before judging them. Many actually didn't give up this position until Ohio State dismissed them from their team and some defended them even after that.
In stark contrast, we have people who want to get rid of a starting DT because of a tweet and for spitting in someone's face last year and serving a suspension and then publicly apologizing for it.
I don't know. I'll take the kid who tweeted something stupid every time over the criminals at some of these other football factories. I'll still hope that someone can mentor Shelton to represent himself better in the future and I am also not sure how great of an influence he is on the team but dismissal is pretty harsh for a tweet.
Now I can see why he’s from Columbus yet OSU wanted nothing to do with him. He’s nothing but trouble....and a total moron on top of that.
To be clear, I’m not suggesting he gets dismissed for this latest twitter incident. I simply stated I’d prefer to see him transfer, at this point. And, I’m certainly not one who defended the OSU players in question.
what about the action of elbowing a white person who he deemed was in his way while walking on campus?
Agreed.
If you shoulder check someone because they are in your way on the sidewalk, you are a simply jerk. If you shoulder check someone because they are in your way on the side walk, then call out and brag about that person's skin color being the reason they got shoulder checked, you are a racist jerk.
That reminds me of this.
https://babylonbee.com/news/mlk-jr-...e-color-of-their-skin-but-by-their-old-tweets
This whole thread just reinforces my belief that Twitter may be mankind's worst invention ever...well, possibly after nuclear weapons and "Family Guy."
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