2022 Recruiting Class Thread

[Thomas1945]

There is legit information out there that the staff stopped pursuing Brubaker and Nelson. They showed up at camp (or refused to) and underperformed. It’s not a case of sour grapes. In fact, as an example, the top DBs on the board are about to commit. Each have been ahead of Nelson for weeks. Just because some of these kids are rated higher on a recruiting service website, doesn’t mean that the staff sees it the same way.

The LBer recruits you mentioned are being heavily pursued by PSU at the moment and most are hopeful that we close out with at least one of them.

I’ll buy the first two no problem. I’ve read all posts taking that position. But if SC boats the second two would you at least admit that perhaps young Beamer and his assistants are a threat not be ignored in the future. Virginia and more importantly the DMV are his father’s old stomping ground and that’s a very fertile area for us.

 

[PSULionsDub]

This is the time of year when recruiting rankings are deceptive. The schools with a low number of commitments will - obviously - will make up ground once they start filling their classes. The only thing I pay attention to right now is the school's average / recruit number. With that said, however, PSU's 247 Composite average (90.32) is outstanding and only behind OSU in the B1G. When all said and done, PSU should end up with a top 10 class which, if done yearly, should put them in the conference and NC talks

247Sports is updating their Top 247 rankings tomorrow so let’s see what happens to Penn State’s commitments.

 

[Thomas1945]

247Sports is updating their Top 247 rankings tomorrow so let’s see what happens to Penn State’s commitments.

Pribula ought to get a fourth star in fair World.

 

[OhHello]

Pribula ought to get a fourth star in fair World.

I may like him better as an underdog with a McSorley sized chip on his shoulder.

 

[marshall23]

This isn’t going to be very popular. When Brubaker signed with SC people said he slid down the board. When Nelson signed with SC once again people said he slid down the board. Now we could really use a good linebacker and SC is confident that their getting both Barnum and Carter.
Now that’s either a pretty steep and slippery board we have. Or if the Gamecocks get the other two they just might be cleaning our clocks, and nobody wants to admit it because the rest of the class is looking great. I’m definitely not an alarmist,
I may be wrong, but where there’s smoke there’s usually a fire.

I understand your point. But I suggest you picked the wrong two recruits..... IMO they either were passed over or told to wait.

 

[NittanyIllinois]

Shawn Murphy trending to Alabama. Must say.......this is pretty surprising. Definitely didn't think he'd make Alabama's cut.

 

[LionsandBear]

Can we fast forward to Thursday?

 

[Midnighter2]

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Allen is a great pick up. His tape is better than Singleton’s IMO.

Also - backwards hats are for catchers and Ken Griffey Jr.

 

[Raffycorn]

This isn’t going to be very popular. When Brubaker signed with SC people said he slid down the board. When Nelson signed with SC once again people said he slid down the board. Now we could really use a good linebacker and SC is confident that their getting both Barnum and Carter.
Now that’s either a pretty steep and slippery board we have. Or if the Gamecocks get the other two they just might be cleaning our clocks, and nobody wants to admit it because the rest of the class is looking great. I’m definitely not an alarmist,
I may be wrong, but where there’s smoke there’s usually a fire.

I think any prediction for either one of the two linebackers to South Carolina is premature, and largely based on a misunderstanding by South Carolina writers about their actual level of momentum in the northeast.

 

[lazydave841]

This isn’t going to be very popular. When Brubaker signed with SC people said he slid down the board. When Nelson signed with SC once again people said he slid down the board. Now we could really use a good linebacker and SC is confident that their getting both Barnum and Carter.
Now that’s either a pretty steep and slippery board we have. Or if the Gamecocks get the other two they just might be cleaning our clocks, and nobody wants to admit it because the rest of the class is looking great. I’m definitely not an alarmist,
I may be wrong, but where there’s smoke there’s usually a fire.

I think any prediction for either one of the two linebackers to South Carolina is premature, and largely based on a misunderstanding by South Carolina writers about their actual level of momentum in the northeast.

Gamecocks coaches 'guilty as charged' for beating Nittany Lions for Nelson

The Gamecocks director of new and creative media says the Gamecocks just got away with highway robbery.

247sports.com

Four-star CB Keenan Nelson Jr. breaks down South Carolina commitment

Four-star cornerback Keenan Nelson Jr. breaks down his commitment to South Carolina.

247sports.com

It's mentioned that SC was going the hardest for him. Also mentioned that he could end up at safety.

Seems like we backed off after that camp performance.

 

[bmw199]

I’ll buy the first two no problem. I’ve read all posts taking that position. But if SC boats the second two would you at least admit that perhaps young Beamer and his assistants are a threat not be ignored in the future. Virginia and more importantly the DMV are his father’s old stomping ground and that’s a very fertile area for us.

I’ll be remote starting my car when I fart if SC lands both Barham and Carter

 

[Chris92]

Seems like we backed off after that camp performance.

Nelson also had a rough time at the Five-Star camp in Atlanta. There's a reason he's being mentioned as a Safety.

 

[lazydave841]

Nelson also had a rough time at the Five-Star camp in Atlanta. There's a reason he's being mentioned as a Safety.

I'd say he drops in the updated ratings as well. Not that it matters, but it might make some feel better.

 

[GregInPitt]

Not sure why some are having a hard time accepting that the staff cooled on Nelson and then got one of their top choices at CB in Allen, and will likely get their other top choice at CB to commit later this month. If Cam Miller, or Driver or Winston commit to South Carolina we could have something to gripe about.........

Franklin and his staff won't take PA players just because they got high ratings from the "experts" and they are PA kids........

 

[marshall23]

Whoa up there, I’ll buy the part where we backed off and found better fits for the program. But if you think SC signed players that they think won’t be potential starters in the SEC just for optics and to curry favor with recruiting services your way off base. Maybe they didn’t evaluate them as well as our staff, but their in the business of winning football games also. They think, perhaps wrongly, that those kids can contribute. A coaching staff would have to insane to recruit players to please the evaluating services analysts.

No one is saying that because (purportedly) PSU may have tapped the breaks on some recruits that it makes them poor prospects. Remember that recruiting is a two sided process. The young men need to buy in to your approach and culture and the coaching staff needs to see you as a fit in areas including but not limited to.. ability to fit in to a defined role and scheme.....as well as intangibles like how they fit into the chemistry of the program. It's in many ways a beauty contest. I prefer brunettes and you may like blondes......

 

[lazydave841]

Whoa up there, I’ll buy the part where we backed off and found better fits for the program. But if you think SC signed players that they think won’t be potential starters in the SEC just for optics and to curry favor with recruiting services your way off base. Maybe they didn’t evaluate them as well as our staff, but their in the business of winning football games also. They think, perhaps wrongly, that those kids can contribute. A coaching staff would have to insane to recruit players to please the evaluating services analysts.

When 2 of their highest rated recruits are top 300 kids that all the big boys backed off of, it's not meant to be a slight to them as much as it is a matter of they were the team who pushed the hardest and offered the most of the rest.

It's very similar to us getting Allen. He was supposed to be our #1 target at CB. Others reportedly cooled on him to the point our primary competition was Louisville.

And it's not like the young Beamer is known for pulling in PA recruits. Yet.

 

[GregInPitt]

Good summary of the remaining targets at this point of the stretch run for the 2022 class........ Only partially free.

Happy Valley Insider - Counting down Penn State's top 10 remaining prospects in the Class of 2022

Who are Penn State's top remaining prospects in the Class of 2022? Ryan Snyder gives his opinion here!

bwi.rivals.com

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

Singleton just upgraded to the #1 RB on 247.

 

[GregInPitt]

Singleton just upgraded to the #1 RB on 247.

Strange that he is the 247 #1 RB but "only" a 95 rating. It would seem that if they believe he is the #1 RB he should be a 98 or 99. 1.0 is seemingly reserved for #1 overall players.....

Whereas in the 2021 class the top 5 RB's as rated by 247 were all 96 or above.

They are saying that 2022 is a down year for RB's?

And look at WR's. 247 has Sanders at #12, with oh-high-ya having commits from 4 of the top 8 WR's....

 

[PearlSUJam]

Strange that he is the 247 #1 RB but "only" a 95 rating.

Whereas in the 2021 class the top 5 RB's as rated by 247 were all 96 or above.

They are saying that 2022 is a down year for RB's.

They still have games to play this Fall.

 

[Ohio_Pirate]

Allar moved up as well, no? I can't remember where he was ranked on 247 but he's up to #64 in country and #7 QB now. I thought he was somewhere around 90 before.

 

[OhHello]

I'm seeing Singleton at #72 nationally and .9689 overall composite now.

 

[PSULionsDub]

Singleton, Allar, and Saunders are all Top 100 recruits. Ivey, Flowers, Allen, Fearbry, Cross, and Shelton are all Top 247 recruits.

 

[bmw199]

Singleton, Allar, and Saunders are all Top 100 recruits. Ivey, Flowers, Allen, Fearbry, Cross, and Shelton are all Top 247 recruits.

Drew Shelton dropped almost 100 spots to #227, which is surprising unless he didn't go to camps or had a tough time at IMG.

Drew did not drop. That’s where he was in 247. You’re confusing his composite with 247.

 

[Shadow99]

Strange that he is the 247 #1 RB but "only" a 95 rating. It would seem that if they believe he is the #1 RB he should be a 98 or 99. 1.0 is seemingly reserved for #1 overall players.....

Whereas in the 2021 class the top 5 RB's as rated by 247 were all 96 or above.

They are saying that 2022 is a down year for RB's.

And look at WR's. 247 has Sanders at #12, with oh-high-ya having commits from 4 of the top 8 WR's....

Apparently only the Top 10 national recruits (regardless of position) have a 247 rating above 95.

Allar moved up as well, no? I can't remember where he was ranked on 247 but he's up to #64 in country and #7 QB now. I thought he was somewhere around 90 before.

Allar is up 25 spots to 7th (composite) QB according to a 247 article.

Also of note, Fearbry is up to 197 nationally.

 

[PSULionsDub]

Drew did not drop. That’s where he was in 247. You’re confusing his composite with 247.

You are correct, I stand corrected, thank you.

 

[lazydave841]

Did I read correctly, Saunders shows out at all these camps and drops 4 spots?

DDS dropped to 86?

Singleton up to 27?

 

[ChiTownLion]

DDS dropped to 86?

Well, we know DDS was unlockable at all the camps and wowed everyone who watched with many asking themselves if he is the No. 1 DE recruit in the nation. Plus he is an extremely hard worker and a self-motivated person (and very well-spoken). Combine that with his physical gifts and you can't ask for much more.

 

[ChiTownLion]

 

[Shadow99]

Again fwiw, the Rivals Southcentral Recruiting "Analyst" just flipped his FC for DDS from GA to PSU.

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

Brubaker and Nelson Jr with pretty massive drops in the new 247 ratings FWIW.

 

[ericstratton-rushchairman]

Brubaker and Nelson Jr with pretty massive drops in the new 247 ratings FWIW.

I feel sorry for the kids and hope they have great careers where ever then end up. But it does go to show that our talent evaluators, at least in this instance, seem dead on

 

[Art]

I feel sorry for the kids and hope they have great careers where ever then end up. But it does go to show that our talent evaluators, at least in this instance, seem dead on

So the "talent evaluators" for 247, or Rivals for that matter, are the be all and end all? Makes one wonder how they got it wrong the first go round.

 

[PSULionsDub]

Dani Dennis-Sutton will announce his commitment Today at 5:00 pm at McDonogh High School in Maryland. If he commits to Penn State (all CBs and FCs indicate he will as of now), then he would probably be our top-rated recruit, and a game changing recruit at DEnd.

 

[Shadow99]

Some like the new rankings...some aren't so sure LOL:

 

[19333lion]

Dani Dennis-Sutton will announce his commitment Today at 5:00 pm at McDonogh High School in Maryland. If he commits to Penn State (all CBs and FCs indicate he will as of now), then he would probably be our top-rated recruit, and a game changing recruit at DEnd.

Wait 'til Enai White changes his mind! (I can always hope. Right?)

 

[eidolon21]

who is R Collins LB and supposed to commit today to PSU or WVU?

 

[Texas Lion]

who is R Collins LB and supposed to commit today to PSU or WVU?

I saw that as well and have never heard of the guy.

Raleigh Collins III, West Virginia Mountaineers, Cornerback

Raleigh Collins III is a 6-3, 185-pound Cornerback from Bear, DE.

247sports.com

 

[PSULionsDub]

who is R Collins LB and supposed to commit today to PSU or WVU?

Raleigh Collins is a LB from Pennsylvania/Delaware who will most likely commit to WVU.

 

[Midnighter2]

Well, we know DDS was unlockable at all the camps and wowed everyone who watched with many asking themselves if he is the No. 1 DE recruit in the nation. Plus he is an extremely hard worker and a self-motivated person (and very well-spoken). Combine that with his physical gifts and you can't ask for much more.

Stay healthy.