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U17/U20 Nationals 4/24-28 in Las Vegas

But seriously, I see a consistent trend where PSU wrestlers and recruits show up for events like this, but Iowa athletes show up as an afterthought, if at all. I think it speaks to a different mentality and maybe different personal goals for the athletes.

It’s an Open- anyone can show up, they just don’t.
They are resting up for the Iowa way beat down in the room. It takes certain training to push your way to the round of 12.

NFL Draft thread....

Did Jacobs get drafted? If King made a huge mistake what does that say about a 5* Jacobs?

King didn’t make a mistake. Staying one more year at Penn State would not have improved his skill set. King is a marginal player whose skill set was way overrated by the media. It was no accident King’s best year happened to be when the aggressive and penalty prone Joey Porter Jr. was playing the opposite corner. Once Porter left, King was exposed.

NFL Draft thread....

The fact that a few of the PSU players were not drafted might serve as a warning for next year's draft eligible players. Might make a few return for another year.
Tough for this year's undrafted players.

Players not drafted simply means the NFL didn’t think those players were good enough. This is normal. Marginal players don’t get better by playing one more year. They have physical limitations called a ceiling.

Mitchell Messenbrink's Maturity

Now that the OTT’s are over, I would like to see if anyone sensed the same thing that I thought that I watched, and that was a sudden maturity of Mitchell Messenbrink. Even though he lost to Jordan Burroughs, he did score a couple points against JB, but there were some things that I saw from MM, beginning with his smile prior to the hand shake at the beginning of the match that I found interesting, and that was his confidence at the start of the match. The MM bounce. Beginning with the first period I saw how MM squared himself to JB on the mat, and I think it made JB uncomfortable. As the 1st period progressed, MM showed some inexperience and allowed a take down and a back exposure. On the restart MM went straight back to the middle of the mat. At this point, JB was not sure of this upstart kid, but I think he knew he was in a match that he was not ready for. Head slapping ensued on the next start, and the official stopped it, and MM wanted to make sure that he was on the up and up by attempting a high 5 to JB to let him know that is competition, nothing more. But if I recall JB did not respond. This is only 30 seconds into the first period. In my opinion, MM was more prepared for this match than JB. As the 1st period progressed, JB’s experience showed. But watching MM continue to square up against JB, I was impressed even more with MM and his preparation for a wrestler like JB. Down 7-0 after 2, MM continued to square up against JB and attempted leg attacks. Even with under 1 minute to go MM continued his attacks, and JB was not sure, at times, how to defend MM’s attacks. With time winding down, there was some head butting and head pushing initiated by MM to let JB know that MM is coming at the decorated wrestler, and whatever the outcome, JB now knows who MM is. The shove with :07 left in the match is important. Sometimes a torch is passed, but a lot people of don’t see it or understand it. I like to think that I just saw a torch passed from a decorated champion to a young Penn State wrester who I think is going to shine in the NCAA’s as well as the world stage. I like to think that, in this particular match, I watched Mithell Messenbrink progress to the next level of the great Penn State type of wresters like David Taylor, Jason Nolf and Zain Retherford. Penn State Nation get ready to cheer on the next of Penn State’s incredible person/wrestler. This is just my observation.

NFL Draft thread....

I don't know, but he couldn't have gotten drafted lower if he had come back. And if his NFL career turns out to be just a training camp, he would have at least made $50K-100K in NIL if he had come back for 2024, wouldn't he? Maybe left PSU with a nice car, paid off. Could have played another year with his brother. It was hard for me to believe how slow King ran at the combine. Never heard any excuses, but surely a year working on his speed could have gotten a few ticks off of that which would have helped his case to get drafted higher. And he might have rebounded from his less than stellar season.

Didn't some that looked critically at game film believe that Dixon played better in 2023? I still believe if Dixon and King would have played in the bowl it would have resulted in giving up less passing yards and may have helped PSU to the win. Cam Miller played pretty well but still gave up a good many catches on great throws. Maybe a more experienced CB takes a penalty or two to prevent those longer catches, or gets away with a couple penalties. But Dixon was out of eligibility to he wasn't going to play much in the bowl anyway.

And what about Jacobs? The write ups on him for the draft were pretty complimentary.

King just gets taken near end of 7th..... by the Packers.

If you don’t object, for discussion purposes I must disagree on a couple points you made.

First, unless a bowl game is part of the CFP format, it is an irrelevant and meaningless game. So, players opting out of irrelevant bowls (no playoff implication), are making a personal decision which is perfectly fine. The Peach Bowl was a non-playoff game.

Second, Cam Miller got torched repeatedly in the Peach Bowl. In fact, Miller and Zion Tracy were so bad, the staff immediately hit the portal and brought in multiple defensive backs as an insurance policy. I doubt Miller will receive the majority of snaps in the 2024 season unless there are some major injuries to the other DBs.
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