Uh Oh - 1976???
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You mean you don't remember everything from a couple of days ago?
You're no oracle and you disgrace the fine people of Pennsy by including that name in your handle.
Something you need?You mean you don't remember everything from a couple of days ago?
Except for the University that he gave everything to. They have found impossible to defend him.
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Gotta disagree with you Joe. PSU [the leadership not the football program] has proven to be every bit as corrupt as the catholic church.
Let me just rant for a second. Abuse victims don't usually tell anyone. Period. And I think statistics might show that this is even more true for boys. When they do, it is usually close, trusted adults and often only because the adult is keyed into something wrong and asks questions (see 1998 victim with the mother, perfect example). The odds against these reports are pretty strong. You would have to believe that the parents were who were informed by the child and they decided to bring it to a bunch of football coaches, rather than an agency designed to help with at-risk children with staffing who they were probably familiar with, like a child psychologist.
In all those millions of documents and hundreds of interviews, Freeh did not uncover a sniff of this? It is either BS or Freeh got a ridiculous amount of money to produce a report not worth the paper it is written on -- or both.
I've worked in an agency similar to The Second Mile, providing parenting education to families who had court-ordered services due to abuse and neglect. Maybe you need to inform yourself about the topic you care so much about. I am greatly concerned about all the people the media doesn't care about:
Jack Raykovitz, child psychologist and 2nd in charge at TSM
the CYS of Centre County and surrounds
Any trained staff that were a part of the TSM who usually are strong child advocates
All the people involved in getting JS's adoptions through
You know, the people that would be best suited to recognize a child predator.
Agree with your evaluation. Would add another scenario: the child in question was close to Paterno and trusted him.
If you can't see through that thinly-veiled facade, you're even more whacked out then I thought you were.
No, just that memory fades over time and often we need reminders, like you just did, and maybe Joe. But then we are depending on who is reminding us and the value of their memory, or is it just what they have been told was the memory. The language of the reminder is critical. And here we are. No offense intended to you. It is a common experience.
Michael Jackson himself is envious of the full on support of Sandusky by the victims and their families: These families simply refuse to report the heinous crimes done to their children to the police: Only a football coach is allowed to know.
Also, imagine the disrespect the Centre county Sheriff and the SCPD must feel? These children continue to be victims of pedophilia, and not a single one of their families, teachers, relatives or any other soul on the face of the earth will report the crimes to the cops: Just a football coach, and nobody else...ever.
Also, imagine the disrespect the Centre county Sheriff and the SCPD must feel? These children continue to be victims of pedophilia, and not a single one of their families, teachers, relatives or any other soul on the face of the earth will report the crimes to the cops: Just a football coach, and nobody else...ever.
Are you under the impression that I think that Joe knew about 1976 or even 2001 ?
No. You lost track of the details. You asked to be reminded. Memory. That is all.
“A lie goes around the world a thousand times and there are no do-overs.” ― Kenneth Frazier
If so, they might not know what the child reported or didn't. If he wasn't close, lifelong, it might also be unlikely that they'd remember him. My parents don't remember most of my elementary school age friends, even those that came over for an afternoon or two. Heck, I don't remember some of their names and others I don't remember what they looked like.
You can be pretty sure the insurance company hired a number of investigators to vet the issue before they are going to fork over $ 60M to Penn State for its' liability payouts.
So we're to believe that the boy 1) Didn't go to the police AND 2) didn't tell his parents or they chose not to go to the police BUT instead went to Joe Paterno. Right. And I guess this is what Barron was referring to when asked about paying tribute to Joe and answered vaguely about some other things that could come out.
And those investigators are going to discover what about an alleged incident that took place 40 years ago? Witnesses to the alleged incident? Witnesses to the child allegedly telling Paterno?
What was legally required?
Joe screwed up. He never should have been involved. Once he was he should have told anyone who claimed to know about a crime to take it to the police and he would have been in the clear.
That is what you said about the last guy and you will say the same about the next guy too.
GTF outta here with your bull crap. Joe did exactly as PSU policy and state law dictated, report to your superior and then stay out of it.
MM testified that NO ONE AT PSU EVER TOLD HIM TO KEEP QUIET. He was free to file a report with UPPD whenever he wanted but he apparently didn't feel strongly enough about what he THOUGHT was happening that night to take that step. He was 28 years old and he certainly didn't need Joe to tell him that he needed to go to the police if he wanted a criminal investigation (instead of an HR issue) to get started.
MM also testified that he expressed no dissatisfaction and never said MORE needed to be done when TC called him a few weeks later to follow up.
So Joe was close to the kid but ignored him in favor of a LB coach? Not likely.
So let me get this straight.
In 1976, alleged victim claims he told Paterno about abuse.
In 1977, Paterno promoted Sandusky to defensive coordinator.
In 1977, Sandusky founded The Second Mile.
How did this person, in 1976, meet Sandusky, how was he abused and where, and why did HIS PARENTS determine that the proper course of action was to tell Paterno?
And Paterno's reaction this would have been to PROMOTE Sandusky?
And the PARENTS would sit silently by and say nothing about this to the police, child welfare, or anyone else at PSU.
I'd love to see this person's deposition. I'm sure it's a doozy.
In 1976, alleged victim claims he told Paterno about abuse.
In 1977, Paterno promoted Sandusky to defensive coordinator.
In 1977, Sandusky founded The Second Mile.
How did this person, in 1976, meet Sandusky, how was he abused and where, and why did HIS PARENTS determine that the proper course of action was to tell Paterno?
And Paterno's reaction this would have been to PROMOTE Sandusky?
And the PARENTS would sit silently by and say nothing about this to the police, child welfare, or anyone else at PSU.
I'd love to see this person's deposition. I'm sure it's a doozy.
You are leaving out a few important parts...1).that 40 yrs later this would all of a sudden come to light in regards to an insurance companies claims....2) That the "investigative journalists" of the country would run with it and have it printed...3) People would actually believe it! No wonder why countries around the world laugh at us...[/QUOTE]
With the benefit of hindsight, that's easy to say.
There is no evidence that anyone considered the 2001 incident to be a crime, however, there is evidence indicating the POLICE were contacted about the 2001 incident on 2-12-2001.
Media "vulture" Sara Ganim was just on HLN stating she got a report by someone claiming CSA in 1971 who also claims reporting it to JVP.
Seriously? JVP = ChildLine???
