Penn St. vs Pitt - 9/10/16

[AWS1022]

Your fear is unfounded, Heinz is a great atmosphere for CFB. I have only seen it get rowdy for WVU and that was when they all started chanting eat $hit pitt. There will not be more of you guys than Pitt fans though-- you will have 20k tops...relax and enjoy the game, honestly one of the more laid back places to watch a cfb game, most of our fans are older and there will be a bunch of families with kids on hand. We dont have 40k drunken undergrads in our stadium, for better or for worse. Come to Pittsburgh, eat Primantis, go to the museums, tour a real college campus, and revel in enjoying the return of one of the best rivalry games in cfb. Hail to Pitt.

The fact that your fans will be older is what would worry me. I've been to one Steelers game and will never go back and it was the "older" fans that were the problem. It was not a great atmosphere for a pro game so I seriously doubt it's a great atmosphere for a college game, especially with Penn State coming to town. This one will make our road trip to Rutgers look like a welcome home party. Only Pitt fans actually think their fans will be well behaved.

 

[usf2pitt]

The fact that your fans will be older is what would worry me. I've been to one Steelers game and will never go back and it was the "older" fans that were the problem. It was not a great atmosphere for a pro game so I seriously doubt it's a great atmosphere for a college game, especially with Penn State coming to town. This one will make our road trip to Rutgers look like a welcome home party. Only Pitt fans actually think their fans will be well behaved.

Meh. I have been to games all over the country; the only places that i would not go back to are florida, west virginia and rutgers. I have seen the worst of the worst-- ie wvu fans urinating on opposing fans/ pelting them with full cans of beer/ setting their jackets on fire from behind with a lighter etc----- you wont have any issues-- not the same crowd as the steelers

 

[AWS1022]

Meh. I have been to games all over the country; the only places that i would not go back to are florida, west virginia and rutgers. I have seen the worst of the worst-- ie wvu fans urinating on opposing fans/ pelting them with full cans of beer/ setting their jackets on fire from behind with a lighter etc----- you wont have any issues-- not the same crowd as the steelers

I've been to numerous WVU games and never saw anything really out of line. So keep telling yourself that Pitt is a great game day experience. I guarantee it won't be for the PSU fans in September.

 

[bdgan]

Your fear is unfounded, Heinz is a great atmosphere for CFB. I have only seen it get rowdy for WVU and that was when they all started chanting eat $hit pitt. There will not be more of you guys than Pitt fans though-- you will have 20k tops...relax and enjoy the game, honestly one of the more laid back places to watch a cfb game, most of our fans are older and there will be a bunch of families with kids on hand. We dont have 40k drunken undergrads in our stadium, for better or for worse. Come to Pittsburgh, eat Primantis, go to the museums, tour a real college campus, and revel in enjoying the return of one of the best rivalry games in cfb. Hail to Pitt.

No offense but your characterization of PSU and Pitt are inaccurate.

• PSU has one of the best student sections in all of college football. Average attendance is near 100,000 and 40,000 of them are not drunken undergrads.
• Pittsburgh is a beautiful city and they have one of the nicest MLB stadiums in the country. Heinz field is not so exciting. Furthermore it is several miles from the university campus and that takes away from the attendance and atmosphere.
• Pitt is a fine school but it is not what most people would consider a "real" college campus. It's in the outskirts of the city and you can hardly tell where Duquesne, Carnegie Mellon, and Pitt begin and end. There are very few dorms so most kids commute. It's not a traditional college atmosphere.

 

[jrd23psu]

Your fear is unfounded, Heinz is a great atmosphere for CFB. I have only seen it get rowdy for WVU and that was when they all started chanting eat $hit pitt. There will not be more of you guys than Pitt fans though-- you will have 20k tops...relax and enjoy the game, honestly one of the more laid back places to watch a cfb game, most of our fans are older and there will be a bunch of families with kids on hand. We dont have 40k drunken undergrads in our stadium, for better or for worse. Come to Pittsburgh, eat Primantis, go to the museums, tour a real college campus, and revel in enjoying the return of one of the best rivalry games in cfb. Hail to Pitt.

Well, I certainly do not think my fears are unfounded, but let's just say that they are for the sake of argument. Part of your post is still confusing.

"tour a real college campus" - I'm not sure what you're implying, because it seems like you're implying that I've never been on a real college campus.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Your fear is unfounded, Heinz is a great atmosphere for CFB. I have only seen it get rowdy for WVU and that was when they all started chanting eat $hit pitt. There will not be more of you guys than Pitt fans though-- you will have 20k tops...relax and enjoy the game, honestly one of the more laid back places to watch a cfb game, most of our fans are older and there will be a bunch of families with kids on hand. We dont have 40k drunken undergrads in our stadium, for better or for worse. Come to Pittsburgh, eat Primantis, go to the museums, tour a real college campus, and revel in enjoying the return of one of the best rivalry games in cfb. Hail to Pitt.

You don't get 20,000 in the stadium for any of your games and our base likes to travel. Plus, Pittsburgh metro already has a ton of PSU alums living there. How the hell do you think this game won't be AT BEST (for you) a 50-50 split?

And how the hell does Oakland = a real college campus? More like a city with some college buildings scattered about.

 

[Ranger Dan]

I didnt make it up....was responding to the poster towards the beginning of the thread who suggested that Barbour should pull out of the game.

OK, maybe I have that specific poster on ignore... I only saw your reference to backing out.

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

In all honesty I'm debating whether I want to go to the game in September. I already know how visiting fans will be treated. I'm not sure I want to endure a day of being called a pedophile and personally blamed for the actions of people I've never met. If PSU wins you can pretty much expect the absolute worst as you're leaving the stadium. Actually, I would expect the absolute worst as the games goes on if PSU gets an early lead and doesn't look back.

It's going to be brutal going to the game for PSU fans, despite the fact that there will no doubt be double the amount of PSU fans at the game than Pitt fans. The worst of their fan base (which is not their entire fan base) will feel empowered playing at home, and when you throw in some alcohol I would bet any amount of money the degenerate part of their fan base will hurl every personal insult at anyone wearing Blue/White.

I'm not sure if I'm going to go, but if I do I know I'll need to be prepared to be treated like I personally abused children because there are simply degenerates in that fan base who truly believe that we are all personally responsible and think the should have our heads beaten in.

Yep. I think this will be a game where fans attending, who have been previously aloof, will finally understand why we are not prepared to move on at this time.

 

[Marshall30]

OK, maybe I have that specific poster on ignore... I only saw your reference to backing out.

If it was me, Penn State should back out. This game has no good associated with it.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Right back at ya

Your reaction is one of the ones I can't wait to see.

 

[irncty]

The last Penn St. vs Pitt game I went to was in 1991 I believe on Thanksgiving Day, or the day after. I can't quite remember. It was on Pitt's campus in that bowl type stadium. I probably saw no less than 15 fights going on in the stands throughout the game. It seemed like every couple minutes everyone was standing up and looking at a pocket of disturbance in the stands. Typically it ended with a couple people being escorted out. I was 18 at the time, so it didn't bother me, but no way would I take my kid into that environment.

 

[Judge Smails]

I've mentioned it several times on this board. Was at the 2000 game at Three Rivers, I believe? Sitting in PSU section behind our bench and the PSU cheerleaders came into the stands to hand out pompoms. Middle aged Pitt fan got three inches from a cute PSU cheerleader and screamed "Suck my c#ck!!!" right in her face.

She didn't blink or indicate she even heard him, lol. What poise! I'll never forget it.

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

I love that Pitt thinks they are the favorite in this game and that Franklin can't coach. It will make the aftermath that much more enjoyable. They have managed to take the pressure that should be on us and placed it on themselves in a fashion that only a Pitt fan could do.

I think it will be a good game. A lot of Pitt fans would obviously be pretty disappointed if we lost. Pitt clearly has more momentum at the moment and we'd like to keep it going. We are expecting to win this game because that is what any decent program would do. Don't you go into most games expecting to win? I would hope so. What coach doesn't expect to win a winnable game?

"Like only a Pitt fan can do"... haha, that made me laugh. I honestly wouldn't want to claim responsibility for a lot of our posters on PantherLair... some of them are monsters, but some of these posts over here are just so over-the-top and melodramatic.

Well, see you all on 9/10 in "Beaver Stadium West" as some poster called Heinz, haha....you guys are great.

 

[AWS1022]

I think it will be a good game. A lot of Pitt fans would obviously be pretty disappointed if we lost. Pitt clearly has more momentum at the moment and we'd like to keep it going. We are expecting to win this game because that is what any decent program would do. Don't you go into most games expecting to win? I would hope so. What coach doesn't expect to win a winnable game?

"Like only a Pitt fan can do"... haha, that made me laugh. I honestly wouldn't want to claim responsibility for a lot of our posters on PantherLair... some of them are monsters, but some of these posts over here are just so over-the-top and melodramatic.

Well, see you all on 9/10 in "Beaver Stadium West" as some poster called Heinz, haha....you guys are great.

Getting your asses handed to you in a bowl game is momentum? Really?

 

[jabba2]

This is not going to be a close game. The only advantage Pitt might have is that its early in the year. Im guessing a third of the stadium will be PSU fans.

 

[mrtailgate]

I don't think McSorley is anywhere near the running threat of Keenan Reynolds, Marquise Williams, Kizer, or Justin Thomas(GT). I think you're overstating his ability.

I think you are overstating your intelligence which is just slightly north of a watermelon. Back to your shed Elmer.

 

[mrtailgate]

This has the potential to be an ugly affair. I wouldn't take any children anywhere near these games in Pittsburgh.

I agree for the obvious reasons and for the secondary reasons of trying to explain to children why the home crowd has bad dental work and smells like cabbage. But they managed to come up with the brainchild of sticking French fries on crappy cold cuts. Maybe they will discover deodorant and a toothbrush by chance as well.

 

[mrtailgate]

Right back at ya

I would ban this a$$hat just on the basis of his name notwithstanding his stupid commentary. How much to buy you out so that you never post here again? I'm in for five bucks.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

good answer

Roger that!

 

[Judge Smails]

 

[Marshall30]

We don't need police incidents with these Pitt morons.

 

[PennState_one]

This "no DL" thing is such crap. Every college team has to replace players who graduate every year. Do you think we had no younger backups who played? We rotated guys on the DL in every game.

Anthony Johnson on the backups:

"Those guys are ready,” said Austin Johnson, a projected first-round pick who declared for the NFL draft. “Parker [Cothren], Antoine [White], Rob Windsor and those guys are going to be really good. They’ll have nothing to worry about.”

Torrence Brown played extensively at defensive end and looked terrific. He was getting 1st string snaps in many passing situations towards the end of the year.

When we played San Diego State, in the press conference after the game their coach said our 2nd string defensive line was almost as good as the first string.

The line isn't going to dominate right off the bat the way this unit did, but people are going to be surprised about how well they play.

I hope you are right Judge. I have confidence as well. Young, hungry and to make a point with big chips on there shoulders.

 

[PennState_one]

This is not going to be a close game. The only advantage Pitt might have is that its early in the year. Im guessing a third of the stadium will be PSU fans.

It does kind of suck it is so early in the season, but at least it's not the very first game. I've never cared for the first game, to many bugs to work out (especially with a new offense and d-coordinator). It can make for some terrible football honestly.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

I think it will be a good game. A lot of Pitt fans would obviously be pretty disappointed if we lost. Pitt clearly has more momentum at the moment and we'd like to keep it going. We are expecting to win this game because that is what any decent program would do. Don't you go into most games expecting to win? I would hope so. What coach doesn't expect to win a winnable game?

"Like only a Pitt fan can do"... haha, that made me laugh. I honestly wouldn't want to claim responsibility for a lot of our posters on PantherLair... some of them are monsters, but some of these posts over here are just so over-the-top and melodramatic.

Well, see you all on 9/10 in "Beaver Stadium West" as some poster called Heinz, haha....you guys are great.

Serious question - how does pitt "clearly have more momentum"? Because of Hamlin? Yes, he's a great get for you, and will no doubt have success at your school, but how does one (or two) players trump what is by all sane accounts a MUCH better overall haul in talent at State? Even with our recent decommits, we're looking to close with a top 15-20 class for multiple years in a row...you don't think that talent will show itself on the field?

And whoever suggested that Heinz Field will be about 1/3 PSU fans, let's make a wager. I'm saying AT LEAST 50/50 and likely tipping in our favor...again, Heinz Field West.

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

This is not going to be a close game. The only advantage Pitt might have is that its early in the year. Im guessing a third of the stadium will be PSU fans.

Early in the year.. Pitt advantage? I'm curious to see your reasoning for this so-called "advantage". PSU really set the world on fire later in the season last year, right? With those 4 losses to close out the season? Do you think that PSU will improve throughout the season? Is there some player coming back mid-seaon that I don't know about? Or are you all just hoping JF learns how to coach?

This post sounds way more like "getting your excuses in line" than "Pitt's only Advantage". Deep down, you know, and Pitt knows, that our true advantage isn't our home field, recruits, or frankly our fanbase - it is the Narduzzi vs. Franklin matchup.

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

Serious question - how does pitt "clearly have more momentum"? Because of Hamlin? Yes, he's a great get for you, and will no doubt have success at your school, but how does one (or two) players trump what is by all sane accounts a MUCH better overall haul in talent at State? Even with our recent decommits, we're looking to close with a top 15-20 class for multiple years in a row...you don't think that talent will show itself on the field?

And whoever suggested that Heinz Field will be about 1/3 PSU fans, let's make a wager. I'm saying AT LEAST 50/50 and likely tipping in our favor...again, Heinz Field West.

I think that is a fair question. Our recruiting classes have been pretty lackluster over the past 5 years and we have had way too many coaches. Honestly, being within 5 spots of PSU in the recruiting rankings is considered great momentum for Pitt. I think that a lot of Pitt fans have picked up on a lot of the message board and media chatter about Franklin being on the hotseat and construed that as negative momentum. After everything that has happened over the last decade and the assistant coaches moving on this winter, you all had nice recruiting year.

 

[Judge Smails]

Early in the year.. Pitt advantage? I'm curious to see your reasoning for this so-called "advantage". PSU really set the world on fire later in the season last year, right? With those 4 losses to close out the season? Do you think that PSU will improve throughout the season? Is there some player coming back mid-seaon that I don't know about? Or are you all just hoping JF learns how to coach?

This post sounds way more like "getting your excuses in line" than "Pitt's only Advantage". Deep down, you know, and Pitt knows, that our true advantage isn't our home field, recruits, or frankly our fanbase - it is the Narduzzi vs. Franklin matchup.

Who was Navy's coach who kicked Narduzzi all over the field? Couldn't even tell you his name.

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

Getting your asses handed to you in a bowl game is momentum? Really?

Haha. Agreed. I try to forget about that game. Navy was pretty darn good though. (I'm sure there will be many on this board that will disagree.)

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

Who was Navy's coach who kicked Narduzzi all over the field? Couldn't even tell you his name.

It was their record-breaking QB, Keenan Reyolds, who we had NO answers for. Dude owns records such as:

- His 64 career touchdowns are the most by a quarterback in NCAA history.
- The 64 career rushing touchdowns are tied for the fourth most in NCAA history among all players. He is eight behind Ricky Williams of Texas for third, nine behind Travis Prentice of Miami of Ohio for second and 13 behind Wisconsin's Montee Ball for first.
- His 386 career points are the most by a quarterback in NCAA history.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

The only people who believe Franklin is on the hot seat - or can't coach for that matter - are Pitt fans and message board meatheads. I'm not going to say he is a great coach, just think it's unfair to judge him based on what he had to work with in relation to teams he faced. I really don't think people understand just how decimated our roster has been over the past 2-3 years. No OL = No success. Add in a QB who was flat-footed in the pocket, and the offense has been a disaster.

But the beef is coming and with the highly skilled players on the team, we'll get a better idea of how good a coach he is in the next 2 years. If he ends up being the coach that took a very poor team to double overtime against the eventual NC's then we're going to be just fine. If he ends up being the coach who's team looked uninspired/disinterested against temple then we'll be looking for his replacement.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Oh, and while Narduzzi had a decent first year, I wouldn't necessarily annoint him the second coming of Bear Bryant. That loss to Navy was not the stuff of greatness.

 

[Cosmos]

In thinking about this matchup based on returning players, this looks like a game Penn St. should win. The only unit Pitt really has an edge is on the Offensive Line. Pitt's weapons don't come close to comparing. If Penn St. can slow their running game, they are screwed. Their QB is very mediocre and aside from Ollison at RB (assuming Conner isn't back yet), they have no offensive weapons. Now, stopping the running game may not be that easy. Although our linebackers should be stout,, our DL is a question mark. When Penn St. is on offense, the QB just needs to not make critical mistakes. Let the playmakers make plays and the offensive line just needs to be average. Pitt's defense is terrible other than Whitehead. Even if Hamlin breaks into the starting lineup, it would be just his 2nd start at the college level.

Based on what is happening in recruiting right now, this is a critical game and a win for Penn St. would propel them in head to head recruiting battles and pretty much destroy any hope of Pitt winning any of the games in the series because Penn St. clearly has a talent advantage that would just continue to widen. A Pitt win and recruiting could continue to struggle for Penn St. and cause that gap to close a bit.

This is a huge game when it comes to future recruiting wars.

Wow. We've been reduced to beating Pitt aka 'The Wonder Boys' so as to win in-state recruits. Well, if nothing else it represents a beginning. Folks here are beginning to understand we've got a problem, and that is the first step in fixing it. Welcome to step one of AA.

 

[jabba2]

Early in the year.. Pitt advantage? I'm curious to see your reasoning for this so-called "advantage". PSU really set the world on fire later in the season last year, right? With those 4 losses to close out the season? Do you think that PSU will improve throughout the season? Is there some player coming back mid-seaon that I don't know about? Or are you all just hoping JF learns how to coach?

This post sounds way more like "getting your excuses in line" than "Pitt's only Advantage". Deep down, you know, and Pitt knows, that our true advantage isn't our home field, recruits, or frankly our fanbase - it is the Narduzzi vs. Franklin matchup.

Narduzzi had a good first year, but im confident the PSU O will be sorted out with a well respected OC manning the playcalling. And not Franklin's buddy, who was admittedly terrible. If Franklin had kept Donovan another year, I agree Narduzzi has the advantage. Narduzzi's biggest problem now is he needs top talent to run his schemes, which will not be ready for another year. Im expecting Pitt to go 6-6 or worse. So this should be an easy game for PSU.

 

[Nitfan]

Fans don’t play!

Pitt hasn't had a national championship in any sport for over 30 years!! LOL

 

[Eurotrash1]

Other than bragging rights for the over 50 crowd...this is a meaningless game for both Schools. Our games against Indiana and Purdue hold more meaning.

 

[Blue Goose]

why so obsessed with PITT??? shouldn't you be more concerned with the big 10 schedule??
the way it sounds this is just another warm up game for you.

 

[mikemauti42]

why so obsessed with PITT??? shouldn't you be more concerned with the big 10 schedule??
the way it sounds this is just another warm up game for you.

Obsessed? Have you seen your board? We have 1 thread because you jagoffs are all over our board talking to us and all over your board talking about us.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Brother against brother / Cousin against cousin.

MSU, MI & OSU don’t care about UPS.

Clemson, FSU, Miami don’t care about PITT.

Lets get it on!

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Actually it wasnt. Carter blew his knee out in 1999. He was a joke before that. As for Conner, when another running back puts up 1800 yards and 26TD's in either the ACC or Big Ten again, you may let me know.

2004 New Orleans Saints 2 0 10 17 1.7 8 0 0 0 -- 0 0 -- --
2003 New Orleans Saints 8 0 19 72 3.8 31 1 1 11 11.0 11 0 -- --
2001 Washington Redskins 14 0 63 308 4.9 30 3 13 83 6.4 15 0 1 0
1999 Cincinnati Bengals 3 0 6 15 2.5 8 1 3 24 8.0 11 0 -- --
1998 Cincinnati Bengals 1 0 2 4 2.0 4 0 6 25 4.2 8 0 -- --
1997 Cincinnati Bengals 15 10 128 464 3.6 79T 7 21 157 7.5 35 0 3 2
1996 Cincinnati Bengals 16 4 91 264 2.9 31T 8 22 169 7.7 20 1 2 2
1995 Cincinnati Bengals 0 0 0 0 -- -- 0 0 0 -- -- 0 0 0
TOTAL 319 1,144 3.6 79 20 66 469 7.1 35 1 6 4

Uh, no. Carter tore his knee in the first preseason game of his rookie year...never was the same after.

 

[Agoodnap]

Brother against brother / Cousin against cousin.

MSU, MI & OSU don’t care about UPS.

Clemson, FSU, Miami don’t care about PITT.

Lets get it on!

You Racist!

9nationalchampionships said: ↑

We play them on back to back games and we get them first! Jimmy better get out of crappy valley if they lose both because he would then find out what a “white out” is in centre county!