OT: 2 Hours of JZ (audio link)
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Wow, JZ asked JS and Dottie to independently verify the ones they knew on the list of 36 paid victims. They both came back w/ the same list. They have no knowledge of 1/2 of the victims.
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Very interesting GaS/TC info shortly after the one hour mark...
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JZ must have a standing policy of "Don't say anything in 30 minutes when you can waste two hours doing it."
Of all the interviews, this one (which was edited) actually has quite a bit of new information - one tidbit that he immediately regretted revealing.
The book would need a ghost writer. Someone needs to feed her the material. That's her business model.
Remember SeaHag Laura Ditka pretty much admitted they pursued prison sentences for Spanier, Curley and Schultz in order to stick it to Ziegler. In that incoherent diatribe of a Sentencing Memorandum, she mentioned "conspiracy bloggers" showing up at victims property which could only be referring to him.
http://www.dauphincounty.org/Courts/CurleySchultzSpanier/5-31-17 - CSS - Commonwealth's Sentencing Memorandum.pdf
Schultz probably wants to keep the fact that he still regularly corresponds with Ziegler, and shares intimate knowledge of the situation with him, on the down low. I think he's still under house arrest, or at least probation, and does not want to experience the wrath of Hurricane Laura.
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That is quite amazing. The problem is that many will just say its Ziegler falsifying documents. Too bad he couldn't have gotten some kind of outside consultant to perform that test.
Doesn't that kind of presuppose she can write? LOL.
It'd take her an awful lot of crayons
Here's a dumb question. If the police had 19 months of phone records from 2008-2009 with the calls to V1, wouldn't they have noticed a bunch of calls to V9? Or....
It still baffles me how the jury chose to convict Sandusky on the counts pertaining to Victim 9. If Aaron Fisher is credible, then he has to be lying.
I agree. What baffles me is that they found Sandusky guilty on count related to victim 2 and victim 8 when there weren't any identified victims in either case and that there were statements in Sandusky's attorneys hands from AM and Jim Calhoun that demonstrated that these charges were not credible.
In my opinion, you are either very gullible, have a vested interest in perpetuating the false narratives that are so prevalent in this fiasco, or in the pocket of somebody who has a vested interest in the false narratives.
Well, one would think if anyone were to designate a plant to perpetuate the narrative, he or she would have chosen someone with at least a modicum of intelligence. Such is not the case here.
Was the recording of Jim Calhoun played at trial? I do not believe it was but I could be wrong.
I think a huge problem was that Joe Amendola had spent his entire career engaging in sophisticated legal arguments with prosecutors and judges in order to secure favorable plea bargains for his clients, but had absolutely no idea how to convince a jury. I think regarding victim 2, when Sandusky refused to testify and the defense refused to name the boy, the jury figured Sandusky must be hiding something, even as the prosecutions case was extremely weak since the witness (McQueary) appeared unreliable and was contradicted by others. I think Graham Spanier's attorneys suffered from the same malady.
Calhoun was ruled as having dementia, so I am not sure how his statement would have held up
Yes, but Calhoun's insistence that the Sandusky was NOT the guy should be very telling. From my experience with aging relatives with that condition, they tend to throw around false accusations of horrible things against others, not insist that people who really did do horrible things were innocent.
I guess it is possible Calhoun's mind could have been manipulated, but he would have had no contact with anyone pro-Sandusky during the time leading to that interview.
Who on earth would benefit from having a child molester in jail other than his potential victims?
What kind of "vested interest" could I or anyone else have by keeping old Jerry where he belongs?
JZ appears to be a lying publicity hound and you a loyal acolyte. Only conspiracy nuts believe
anyone benefited from this fiasco. Get a life.
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Point being that if he truly had dementia, then any statements would have been questionable. Was it Witherite that called police after the first Ganim article in March 2011?
Ooops..... Freudian slip
If he really was what you claim, I would think his actual victims would benefit from having him put in jail.
Well that is not uncommon behavior for janitors with dementia who have witnessed CSA... google it!
The day Joe was fired a whole group of very rich and powerful people (bot) became highly invested in JS’s guilt, not to mention members of the PA OAG who made careers out of his conviction. Then there’s the media who went all in on the narrative. They’re not about to say, “um, you know how we vilified a legand with a spotless record, a charity founder, highly respected administrators and an entire university? Turns out we were wrong.”
You’re not a very good shill are you?
You’re not a very good shill are you?
I am not completely sure how the janitors were brought into the case. I remember reading somewhere (likely from Ray Blehar's blog) that everyone who worked in the football facilities during the relevant time period was subpoenaed for questioning in Spring/Summer 2011. I do know Petrosky claimed he came forward after "reading about the story of the graduate assistant" in the newspaper. The problem is that Sara Ganim's March 31st article did not mention the McQueary incident at all. Its one of many factors in this whole "janitor episode" they makes no sense at all and leads me to believe 99% of the story was completely made up.
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That's a really good point! When I stop & think about all those OAG members who springboarded from the JS case to become governor, senators, Attorney generals,, judges, and the like, it is very obvious that the JS prosecution was great for each and every one of them.
And that doesn't even cover the media people. Virtually every single reporter who covered the case now has a prominent national news hour on network TV! It has really helped all of them in amazing ways.
They became invested in his guilt because? You are just another conspiracy nut.
I would not say that the BOT were invested in his guilt. But I would say that they became invested in accepting guilt for his actions in an attempt to move on from it as soon as possible and they were willing to sacrifice anything they needed to in order to achieve that goal.
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