Most Dominant Wrestler Award Standings - 2/3/19

[RoarLions1]

Ten bouts or more, 4.000 and higher.

197 Nickal 5.333
125 Mueller 5.167
157 Nolf 5.158
165 Joseph 5.000
141 Diakomihalis 4.846
184 Rasheed 4.800
165 Marinelli 4.688
125 Rivera 4.579
149 Ashnault 4.563
174 Lewis 4.526
133 Micic 4.500
174 Valencia 4.500
184 Martin 4.462
125 Piccinnini 4.429
197 Moore 4.385
285 Steveson 4.333
133 Fix 4.304
125 S. Lee 4.214
197 Brucki 4.182
141 McKenna 4.143
141 N. Lee 4.000
125 Bresser 4.000

 

[PSU-Knocker]

How many bouts does Mark Hall have and if he has ten, how can he not be in there?

 

[y2jriden]

How many bouts does Mark Hall have and if he has ten, how can he not be in there?

He has more than 10 bouts. Last week he was at exactly 4.000 and he beat Amine by decision (3) so I assume that dropped him slightly below 4.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

How many bouts does Mark Hall have and if he has ten, how can he not be in there?

Wrestlestat has all kinds of useful information.
https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/44839/hall-mark/profile

 

[PSU-Knocker]

He has more than 10 bouts. Last week he was at exactly 4.000 and he beat Amine by decision (3) so I assume that dropped him slightly below 4.

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

 

[kingslayer_85]

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

it's not rocket science

 

[ClarkstonMark]

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

You don't understand math?
Net team points per match divided by number of matches

 

[Reslo]

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

It’s a mathematical formula. There is no reasoning involved.

 

[Aardvark86]

It’s a mathematical formula. There is no reasoning involved.

By analogy, to put it in other terms you might be able to grasp more easily, Dean Heil would never be in the competition for most dominant wrestler.

 

[RoarLions1]

How many bouts does Mark Hall have and if he has ten, how can he not be in there?

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

Mark Hall has 19 Bouts.
-- 10 Decisions x 3 Pts/Dec = 30 points
-- 3 Majors x 4 Pts/Major = 12 points
-- 3 Techs x 5 Pts/Tech = 15 points
-- 3 Falls x 6 Pts/Fall = 18 points

75 total points/19 bouts = 3.947

 

[Afw6006]

By analogy, to put it in other terms you might be able to grasp more easily, Dean Heil would never be in the competition for most dominant wrestler.

Weird. According to a poster on HR, Joseph is becoming the new Dean Heil. How did Joseph end up at #4 on this list?

 

[Aardvark86]

Weird. According to a poster on HR, Joseph is becoming the new Dean Heil. How did Joseph end up at #4 on this list?

Because the sky is not blue and white in Iowa...or at least on HR

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Mark Hall has 19 Bouts.
-- 10 Decisions x 3 Pts/Dec = 30 points
-- 3 Majors x 4 Pts/Major = 12 points
-- 3 Techs x 5 Pts/Tech = 15 points
-- 3 Falls x 6 Pts/Fall = 18 points

75 total points/19 bouts = 3.947

Ah, very understandable as always, Roar. Thank you!

Still hard to understand how last years NCAA champ with no losses this year and beating Valencia (4500 points on the list) this year could not be on the list.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Ah, very understandable as always, Roar. Thank you!

Still hard to understand how last years NCAA champ with no losses this year and beating Valencia (4500 points on the list) this year could not be on the list.

Perhaps it is because 3.947 < 4.000 ……….

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Some more stats that kind of fit this topic.

Least amount of offensive points given up (# of matches in paranthesis):
Rasheed - 0 (15)
Nickal - 2 (18)
Hall - 8 (19)
Cassar - 8 (18)
Joseph - 8 (17)
Berge - 9 (16) <includes a riding time point>
Nolf - 14 (19)

 

[Aardvark86]

Some more stats that kind of fit this topic.

Least amount of offensive points given up (# of matches in paranthesis):
Rasheed - 0 (15)
Nickal - 2 (18)
Hall - 8 (19)
Cassar - 8 (18)
Joseph - 8 (17)
Berge - 9 (16) <includes a riding time point>
Nolf - 14 (19)

Is that home brew or is that number available more broadly?

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Perhaps it is because 3.947 < 4.000 ……….

Heh, funny

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Heh, funny

I think you need concussion protocol

 

[dbldoofus]

Perhaps it is because 3.947 < 4.000 ……….

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Is that home brew or is that number available more broadly?

I'll have to post the spreadsheets and make it accessible more broadly...

 

[PSU-Knocker]

I think you need concussion protocol

How good are you at thinking?

 

[PSU-Knocker]

I think you need concussion protocol

How good are you at thinking?

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

How good are you at thinking?

Ever so slightly better than you

 

[Dogwelder]

I appreciate the answer. I don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the answer.

We can flesh out y2jriden’s answer to recite underlying facts to make it more clear. Edits in bold.

“... Last week Hall was averaging exactly 4.000 team points scored per match, and afterward he beat Amine by decision (to score only 3 team points in that match), so I assume that the Amine match dropped Hall’s new average to slightly below 4 team points scored per match, and so Hall does not anymore appear on the leader list which is restricted to wrestlers who average at least 4 team points per match.”

The following analogy may help. If you’ve been averaging exactly 90 points on each math quiz, and then you score less than 90 on the latest math quiz, then that less-than-90 score will bring down your new average to below 90. And if the list of A-students is only for students who average at least 90, then you will no longer appear on the list.

I hope that is intuitive.

 

[Sportfan2017]

We can flesh out y2jriden’s answer to recite underlying facts to make it more clear. Edits in bold.

“... Last week Hall was averaging exactly 4.000 team points scored per match, and afterward he beat Amine by decision (to score only 3 team points in that match), so I assume that the Amine match dropped Hall’s new average to slightly below 4 team points scored per match, and so Hall does not anymore appear on the leader list which is restricted to wrestlers who average at least 4 team points per match.”

The following analogy may help. If you’ve been averaging 90 points on every math quiz, and then you score less than 90 on the latest quiz, then that less-than-90 score will bring down your average to below 90. And if the list of A-students is only for students who average at least 90, then you will no longer appear on the list.

I hope that is intuitive.

But....I don't understand how I scored 96 on a test and Jill only scored 94 on the same test ….but she appears on the Honor Roll and I don't. That doesn't make any sense. But thank you for your explanation.....which I don't understand. ...Understand? Tee Hee

 

[Dogwelder]

But....I don't understand how I scored 96 on a test and Jill only scored 94 on the same test ….but she appears on the Honor Roll and I don't. That doesn't make any sense. But thank you for your explanation.....which I don't understand. ...Understand? Tee Hee

I think it’s because you gave Jill the “in your face” taunt afterward and tried to break her arm and were penalized with negative infinity points.

 

[kingslayer_85]

this thread is amazing , up until today I had assumed most of the posters were graduates of an accredited institution but now second guessing that. We really need Ban to return to this board so that intellectually I have an equal

 

[RoarLions1]

OMGosh…

197 Nickal 5.333
125 Mueller 5.167
157 Nolf 5.158
165 Joseph 5.000
141 Diakomihalis 4.846
184 Rasheed 4.800
165 Marinelli 4.688
125 Rivera 4.579
149 Ashnault 4.563
174 Lewis 4.526
133 Micic 4.500
174 Valencia 4.500
184 Martin 4.462
125 Piccinnini 4.429
197 Moore 4.385
285 Steveson 4.333
133 Fix 4.304
125 S. Lee 4.214
197 Brucki 4.182
141 McKenna 4.143
141 N. Lee 4.000
125 Bresser 4.000
174 Hall 3.947
149 M. Jordan 3.842
285 Cassar 3.778
165 Wick 3.778
184 Reenan 3.667
149 Gfeller 3.636
133 Suriano 3.438

 

[Dogwelder]

this thread is amazing , up until today I had assumed most of the posters were graduates of an accredited institution but now second guessing that. We really need Ban to return to this board so that intellectually I have an equal

It could just be a simple misunderstanding. Y2jridden’s answer was very economical with words and assumed the reader had paid attention and remembered the meaning of the list. In reality, when people read a rankings list, they might be reading quickly and might not pay attention to whether the metric being used is subjective or a custom weird metric or whatever. Also, not everyone might be a native English speaker, and we have older members on this list. So, we should be kind.
[edit: that said, busting each others’ balls when we goof is fun, too. ]

 

[diggerpup]

Math is Hard.
Derp.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

The transfer portal is now open for the mathematically disadvantaged.

 

[7brwnpsu]

OMGosh…

197 Nickal 5.333
125 Mueller 5.167
157 Nolf 5.158
165 Joseph 5.000
141 Diakomihalis 4.846
184 Rasheed 4.800
165 Marinelli 4.688
125 Rivera 4.579
149 Ashnault 4.563
174 Lewis 4.526
133 Micic 4.500
174 Valencia 4.500
184 Martin 4.462
125 Piccinnini 4.429
197 Moore 4.385
285 Steveson 4.333
133 Fix 4.304
125 S. Lee 4.214
197 Brucki 4.182
141 McKenna 4.143
141 N. Lee 4.000
125 Bresser 4.000
174 Hall 3.947
149 M. Jordan 3.842
285 Cassar 3.778
165 Wick 3.778
184 Reenan 3.667
149 Gfeller 3.636
133 Suriano 3.438

Roar, for Lords sakes your revised list has Suriano last! That runs against family policy. Anyway you can make the cutoff at 3.50?

 

[SWPA]

OMGosh…

197 Nickal 5.333
125 Mueller 5.167
157 Nolf 5.158
165 Joseph 5.000
141 Diakomihalis 4.846
184 Rasheed 4.800
165 Marinelli 4.688
125 Rivera 4.579
149 Ashnault 4.563
174 Lewis 4.526
133 Micic 4.500
174 Valencia 4.500
184 Martin 4.462
125 Piccinnini 4.429
197 Moore 4.385
285 Steveson 4.333
133 Fix 4.304
125 S. Lee 4.214
197 Brucki 4.182
141 McKenna 4.143
141 N. Lee 4.000
125 Bresser 4.000
174 Hall 3.947
149 M. Jordan 3.842
285 Cassar 3.778
165 Wick 3.778
184 Reenan 3.667
149 Gfeller 3.636
133 Suriano 3.438

Any change you can make the cut off at 3.5? I'd feel better.

NVM. I typed too slooooooooow.

 

[dbldoofus]

The transfer portal is now open for the mathematically disadvantaged.

Off to Rutgers? Who cannot seem to count to 10, perennially.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

this thread is amazing , up until today I had assumed most of the posters were graduates of an accredited institution but now second guessing that. We really need Ban to return to this board so that intellectually I have an equal

I checked with ban. he said you are mistaken. You are to take your transcripts and your resume and meet him in the parking lot at midnight.

 

[y2jriden]

OMGosh…

197 Nickal 5.333
125 Mueller 5.167
157 Nolf 5.158
165 Joseph 5.000
141 Diakomihalis 4.846
184 Rasheed 4.800
165 Marinelli 4.688
125 Rivera 4.579
149 Ashnault 4.563
174 Lewis 4.526
133 Micic 4.500
174 Valencia 4.500
184 Martin 4.462
125 Piccinnini 4.429
197 Moore 4.385
285 Steveson 4.333
133 Fix 4.304
125 S. Lee 4.214
197 Brucki 4.182
141 McKenna 4.143
141 N. Lee 4.000
125 Bresser 4.000
174 Hall 3.947
149 M. Jordan 3.842
285 Cassar 3.778
165 Wick 3.778
184 Reenan 3.667
149 Gfeller 3.636
133 Suriano 3.438

Roar, I can't believe you would rank Hall behind Valencia here, Hall beat him! Seriously, how did you even come up with this list!?!

(Obviously j/k)

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Is that home brew or is that number available more broadly?

Ok, here's the data. There's a sheet for each of the starting wrestlers, Keystone, Scuffle and totals per wrestler.

One thing that I did non-conventionally was assign points to individual pins (18 for a 1st period pin, 12 for a 2nd period pin, 6 for a 3rd period pin). I wanted to see if I could normalize data to compare matches that ended with pins to matches that didn't. It only comes into play in the total points column and can be ignored if it seems too hokey.

And I still need to take the time to make it look better and fix the column headers so that they don't run together...

 

[pawrestlersintn]

I checked with ban. he said you are mistaken. You are to take your transcripts and your resume and meet him in the parking lot at midnight.

Okay, this is just weird. Since Ban's ban, he has shown up on the RU board, but since that board is less active, his participation has dropped off. Then, out of the blue today, he posts this in a reply to me in a thread about Ashnault and Wrestlestat...

"Something that you're certainly familiar with, eh, such as being obsessed with me to the pernt to where you incessantly claim that I, unilaterally, told someone that I was more intelligent than he was.

If you need to proper context to what ACTUALLY happened, give me a holler. Better yet, tell me what happened. You're answer will prove how wrong and uninformed all of you are/were in regard towho was calling whom stupid."

So, the guy is peeking through the fence over here, if anyone wants to say hi.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Okay, this is just weird. Since Ban's ban, he has shown up on the RU board, but since that board is less active, his participation has dropped off. Then, out of the blue today, he posts this in a reply to me in a thread about Ashnault and Wrestlestat...

"Something that you're certainly familiar with, eh, such as being obsessed with me to the pernt to where you incessantly claim that I, unilaterally, told someone that I was more intelligent than he was.

If you need to proper context to what ACTUALLY happened, give me a holler. Better yet, tell me what happened. You're answer will prove how wrong and uninformed all of you are/were in regard towho was calling whom stupid."

So, the guy is peeking through the fence over here, if anyone wants to say hi.

I ran his post through the "Translation" app and it said... "WTF"

 

[Sportfan2017]

Okay, this is just weird. Since Ban's ban, he has shown up on the RU board, but since that board is less active, his participation has dropped off. Then, out of the blue today, he posts this in a reply to me in a thread about Ashnault and Wrestlestat...

"Something that you're certainly familiar with, eh, such as being obsessed with me to the pernt to where you incessantly claim that I, unilaterally, told someone that I was more intelligent than he was.

If you need to proper context to what ACTUALLY happened, give me a holler. Better yet, tell me what happened. You're answer will prove how wrong and uninformed all of you are/were in regard towho was calling whom stupid."

So, the guy is peeking through the fence over here, if anyone wants to say hi.

In Re-Reading it...…….I think he made some really good pernts.