the CFP committee will try their best to get them into the playoffs. We get left out winning the BIG because we lost to Michigan big. But that won't matter with Ohio State.
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the CFP committee will try their best to get them into the playoffs. We get left out winning the BIG because we lost to Michigan big. But that won't matter with Ohio State.
fifyWell, I hope Wisconsin and Michigan kick Ohio State's ***. Then that will end that.
Well, I hope Wisconsin kicks Ohio State's ***. Then that will end that.
If OSU beats WI then WI will only have 1 loss to OSU 2 losses (assuming they both win their last game). Last year head to head didn't matter. The championship didn't matter. Only our two losses mattered. Waiting to see if that same "logic" is used. Ha! Not a chance. OSU will gave Delaney lobbying for them, just like last season. Need a playoff with ONLY conference WINNERS.
We had 2 losses last year--Ohio State had one loss...why do people ignore that?
We'd both have 2 this year, they'd have one more win and a head to head win. Plus a win over a top 10 Wisconsin giving them 2 top 10 wins compared to us having zero this year.
Comparing last year to this year doesn't make sense because literally nothing is the same.
The committee isn't "trying" to get Ohio State in. If Alabama, Miami, Oklahoma and Ohio State win out those are the four playoff teams--it isn't even a debate
Why ignore the head to head and conference championship? OSU’s loss to Iowa is worse than our loss to Michigan last year - by a mile. If OSU gets in the CFP is a farce.
Wisconsin will have no top 10 wins. Ohio State will have 2 top 10 wins. It isn't the same logic as last year because Wisconsin doesn't have a non-conference win like Ohio State had last year. Only conference winners is the worst idea ever. If Bama falls to Auburn this week they should still be in...there's no doubt they're a top 4 team even with 1 losses. The playoffs aren't hard to figure out. People keep talking about Penn State-Ohio State as though that was even the debate last year. That debate only existed here (for the most part) everyone else debated the two 2-loss team--Washington & Penn State. The Big Ten should have had two teams last year. We should have been #4
Lucky losers (teams that don't win their conference) have no business being named "champion". You should have to WIN. I hate wild cards in pro sports for the same reason. If it's conference winners the entire season is the playoff. Out of conference should only determine seeding.Wisconsin will have no top 10 wins. Ohio State will have 2 top 10 wins. It isn't the same logic as last year because Wisconsin doesn't have a non-conference win like Ohio State had last year. Only conference winners is the worst idea ever. If Bama falls to Auburn this week they should still be in...there's no doubt they're a top 4 team even with 1 losses. The playoffs aren't hard to figure out. People keep talking about Penn State-Ohio State as though that was even the debate last year. That debate only existed here (for the most part) everyone else debated the two 2-loss team--Washington & Penn State. The Big Ten should have had two teams last year. We should have been #4
Everyone else wanted OSU in last year too. Doesn’t make it right.
We had TWO losses last year not ONE...pay attention
Last year, Ohio State was easily in over us due to the Oklahoma win.
Last year, we had two losses--blown out by Michigan and a bad loss to unranked Pitt
This year, Ohio State has a bad loss to unranked Iowa but the other loss was to a top 2-5 team. Michigan was not a top 2-5 teams last year
Wisconsin (THIS YEAR) can't compete with the resume of Ohio State (LAST YEAR)
This is all common sense--put aside the bias
Lucky losers (teams that don't win their conference) have no business being named "champion". You should have to WIN. I hate wild cards in pro sports for the same reason. If it's conference winners the entire season is the playoff. Out of conference should only determine seeding.
Ohio State in last year was the right decision based on the resume. Again, it wasn't a Penn State-Ohio State debate. It was Penn State-Washington and we got screwed. They should have been penalized for the non-conference schedule they put together.
Really, so if you lose in the semis you shouldn't be eliminated.Then you need to stop watching sports. The entire season shouldn't be a playoff. One loss should never eliminate any team. EVER
You pay attention - who says number of losses matter? Did you see the criteria for CFP rankings at the beginning of the year? Conference championships and head to head listed - number of losses not. It’s not hard, unless you’re an OSU shill and it appears you are.
Really, so if you lose in the semis you shouldn't be eliminated.
Really, so if you lose in the semis you shouldn't be eliminated.
Ohio State in last year was the right decision based on the resume. Again, it wasn't a Penn State-Ohio State debate. It was Penn State-Washington and we got screwed. They should have been penalized for the non-conference schedule they put together.
We had 2 losses last year--Ohio State had one loss...why do people ignore that?
We'd both have 2 this year, they'd have one more win and a head to head win. Plus a win over a top 10 Wisconsin giving them 2 top 10 wins compared to us having zero this year.
Comparing last year to this year doesn't make sense because literally nothing is the same.
The committee isn't "trying" to get Ohio State in. If Alabama, Miami, Oklahoma and Ohio State win out those are the four playoff teams--it isn't even a debate
Unsurprisingly you got it wrong. You're listing criteria ONCE teams are determined to be "comparable". Penn State and Ohio State weren't deemed comparable last year due to record. If you can read click on the link http://www.collegefootballplayoff.c...0//CFP_Selection_Committee_Protocol.pdf?id=23
That’s like putting Pitt in because they beat Clemson and PSU. The problem is there isn’t any criteria until the CFP wants a certain team in - so, two losses won’t matter for OSU because they’re OSU.
2 losses won't matter if we're comparing them to a 2-3 loss Pac XII champion, a 2-3 loss, Notre Dame, 3 loss Georgia/Auburn, a 3 loss Clemson and a 2 loss Penn State because then "comparable" criteria becomes relevant.
It isn't hard to undestand "comparable"
What will be interesting is if they have to debate a 1 loss Miami who didn't win their conference and a 2-loss Ohio State.
If Wisconsin loses in the title game to Ohio State that's not the same as Penn State beating Wisconsin last year when Ohio State didn't play that week
OSU had two losses last year - not one like you state
You’re the one who inferred record to mean ‘comparable’ in their rules - unless I missed it. If I did, please quote exactly where it says that. Thanks.
Last year OSU beat OKLAHOMA, Michigan and Wisconsin, 3 top 10 teams and loss one close game on the road to another top 10 team. If Wisconsin losses to OSU, who is their best win? An unranked Michigan team? Do you really not see the difference between Wisconsin this year and OSU last year?If OSU beats WI then WI will only have 1 loss to OSU 2 losses (assuming they both win their last game). Last year head to head didn't matter. The championship didn't matter. Only our two losses mattered. Waiting to see if that same "logic" is used. Ha! Not a chance. OSU will gave Delaney lobbying for them, just like last season. Need a playoff with ONLY conference WINNERS.
What are you talking about? I've known you for a long time here--you're reaching a new level of stupidity
I’m giving you likes because I agree, not because I actually like the result. Totally different seasons and fields of candidates for the 4 spots. Last year was an issue of WHETHER to consider a 2-loss team, this year may be WHICH 2-loss team, or whether wisky belongs despite beating nobody good then losing to OSU when it mattered. So many maybes it’s not worth the arguments now.We had TWO losses last year not ONE...pay attention
Last year, Ohio State was easily in over us due to the Oklahoma win.
Last year, we had two losses--blown out by Michigan and a bad loss to unranked Pitt
This year, Ohio State has a bad loss to unranked Iowa but the other loss was to a top 2-5 team. Michigan was not a top 2-5 teams last year
Wisconsin (THIS YEAR) can't compete with the resume of Ohio State (LAST YEAR)
This is all common sense--put aside the bias
UCF isn't being compared to other teams because of their schedule and lack of quality wins. Do you watch the playoff show or are you too busy boycotting ESPN?
Last year OSU beat OKLAHOMA, Michigan and Wisconsin, 3 top 10 teams and loss one close game on the road to another top 10 team. If Wisconsin losses to OSU, who is their best win? An unranked Michigan team? Do you really not see the difference between Wisconsin this year and OSU last year?
Huh?OSU had two losses last year - not one like you state
The committee did not compare Penn State and Ohio State last year. They stated this. Penn State was 11-2 while Ohio State was 11-1. Ohio State was compared to Clemson and lost because Clemson won the ACC. Penn State and Washington were compared and somehow Penn State lost which is nonsense. The reality is they didn't want two teams from one conference.
The criteria ONLY applies for criteria. Overall record is reviewed before the comparable criteria...so simple
I’m trying to use your failed logic to make sense of a completely subjective selection process. Clearly not working. You change the rules as you go - last year it’s losses that matter, this year it’s wins. I don’t see either of those items listed as top criteria for ranking teams and you’ve done nothing to prove otherwise. Stop while you’re behind.
They were considered, they just didn't get in, primarily because of their horrible non conference schedules.Why wasn’t the Big 12 considered previously? No conference championship. We WIN ours, and beat OSU - so we have at least two of their top criteria - per their admission - and OSU gets in because? One fewer loss? Ok.
I'm not behind...do you seriously not understand what is being discussed? Last year, the COMMITTEE acknowledged that Penn State-Ohio State was never discussed because they weren't comparable. 99% of college fans knew Ohio State was in before championship weekend. And that's not based on "name"...it was based on THREE top 10 wins. THREE. And there only loss coming against a top 5 Penn State. I hate Ohio State but they had one of the best resumes during the four years of the playoffs.