Isn't Joe also responsible for slavery in the 19th century?
HELP IS ON THE WAY: Sue and Jay to run for Penn State Board of Trustees
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Isn't Joe also responsible for slavery in the 19th century?
I think many of you miss the point. Sue is PSU more than any other person right now, with the possible exception of CJF, from a "brand" standpoint. At the same time, she is above reproach. She's also physically frail, at her age.
Also remember that the BOT is an accessory item for most of the board members that have real lives they need to protect when not spending PSU's money.
Can you imagine having to face her if you are one of the BOT members that screwed Joe? Can you imagine the optics of that? Can you imagine what it will do to their reputations outside of PSU?
SuePa being on the BOT would have profound affects.
Also remember that the BOT is an accessory item for most of the board members that have real lives they need to protect when not spending PSU's money.
Can you imagine having to face her if you are one of the BOT members that screwed Joe? Can you imagine the optics of that? Can you imagine what it will do to their reputations outside of PSU?
SuePa being on the BOT would have profound affects.
What possible impact would their outside reputations have by dealing with Sue? Their outside reputations haven't been hurt one bit by spending $250 million to deflect a child abuse scandal onto a football coach. Why would anything be different with Sue?
I can see the headlines now...
"Penn State alumni further prove they're part of a child abuse condoning cult by electing Paterno heirs to BOT"
"Penn State alumni further prove they're part of a child abuse condoning cult by electing Paterno heirs to BOT"
Because nobody is paying attention. SuePa's presence will change that.
It won't change a thing. Sue's presence would be noted by a few alumni and some opportunistic headline writers. After that, no one will care.
Well Nasser did work with Bo Schembechler at UM, who was only hired because JVP turned down the job so he could continue to oversee the Sandusky cover up.
There is your connection, time for a front page ESPN article.
Are you suggesting that Penn State is helplessly defenseless against this sort of garbage?
Joe cast a complex web. We need a quality reporter like sara ganim to conduct an in-depth (
) investigation.
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Bob asked a great question above. Via Google, I found the following graduation years from Penn State:
Alice Pope, 1979 (bachelor's degree; She also has a master's degree and a Ph.D. from Penn State)
Jay Paterno, 1990
Sue Paterno, 1962
My picks would be Barry, Jay and Sue. No offense to Robert, but the other three are in State College and I have doubts how much he could do from San Diego. Actually I have doubts how much ANY alumni BOT member can do, but how much fun would it be seeing Barry go off on the OGBOTs while Sue and Jay are staring them down?!
Politically and musically you and I are far apart but my nominations were the same.
"The PSU BOT Old Guard: Unifying people of all stripes since 2011"
Is Sue frail? She will be 77 on Feb. 14. I always had the impression she was in pretty good health for a person in their mid-to-late 70s. I can see her taking on a 3-year term and maintaining her relatively very good health throughout.
She seems to be out and about quite a bit, including at a number of PSU activities besides sports. Would her children support and encourage her to run for the BOT if she were frail?
But I don't know anything about her health. I just know from hearing about where she goes and what she stays active in that she continues to love PSU and works for its ongoing betterment.
Alice W. Pope, 1979
Joseph V. Paterno, Jr., 1991
Suzanne P. Paterno, 1962
Note: I changed Jay's date to 1991, based on what Lubrano indicated in a later post.
Jay is 1991.
I think Pope has the required number of nominations to get on the ballot.
I think in order to nominate, you need to use the person's full, formal name.
See the photo with the JoePa bobblehead in it for Jay's and Sue's full info.
I wondered if it was 1991 since he played football through 1990, but a Penn State web page said that he graduated in 1990.
Helplessly? No. Intentionally? Yes.
Putting Sue on the BOT is giving up.
For a 77 year old, she seems to be doing great. But compared to Lubrano or Dunn or Lord, or McCombie, or Pope (etc.) she is frail
Bernie McCue swears he saw Joe kill the Unicorn with his bare hands and has offered up exclusive pics to prove it
yyyeah, but...not sure it should be coming from them. a bit biased, no? won't look good outside PSU community.
It may be deteriorating once she had to stop swimming in 2011(tic)
Done! Just sent my nominations in.
My picks would be Barry, Jay and Sue. No offense to Robert, but the other three are in State College and I have doubts how much he could do from San Diego. Actually I have doubts how much ANY alumni BOT member can do, but how much fun would it be seeing Barry go off on the OGBOTs while Sue and Jay are staring them down?!
Sue is not frail. Although she recently had surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff, she is just fine and more involved than ever.
Absolutely serious, and it created a problem for Al Lord. It is no conflict if they wouldn't vote on or participate in any decision relating to Spanier, Freeh, etc. That means that they, the Alumni, lose two votes.
If they would drop the Paterno et al. vs. NCAA suit, that would remove at least some of that.
No, if fact I was pointing the problem with Al Lord. He has been a trustee for 3 years.
Seriously? At this point who the hell cares about what outsiders think - what can they do to psu that they haven't already been done in the last 5 years?
Actually I disagree. I'm sure they want that in the end but I think, at least for Sue, the state of Penn State is more important. But thats JMO.
they?....our biggest problem (at least originally) was us?...our own BOT. so yeah....i down with some Paternos on the BOT. but...I'm just not going be naive on how that'll be perceived....the whole Jay/Sue restoring JoePa's name, bringing back the statue (for ex).......not that I don't want that to happen or anything.....but it'll be perceived to be very self-serving.....which it would be, right?
My position is that I don't give a damn about perception. Come hell or high water It's about doing right by the man who built the university - Joe Paterno.
Well this should be interesting.
Scott Paterno is tweeting to Onward State, asking if Jay and Sue have confirmed their intent to run (as well as asking about a potential rules infraction by having a "highly-placed" PSU source confirming the info to the media).
Seems as though there may be some conflicting assumptions at this point. It will all sort out soon enough.
I am not sure if the all-knowing board appreciates how hard Alice works on our behalf. Some want to lump her in with those who haven't been very helpful. As if the Lubert vote is all that matters.
That's a big mistake.
That's a big mistake.
