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F.B.I. uncovers college entrance exam scam

Who cares what she said. What I know is she is a child of a celebrity who was cashing in on it via social media. Good for her. Problem for her now is the gravy train just crashed, her appeal on social media is greatly diminished, Mom and Dad are probably going to prison for a few years...now it gets interesting, she is going to have to learn how make an honest living and who knows what exactly her academic credentials are. Good luck to her, life just got a whole lot harder for her.
totally agree. The parents are 100% accountable. And she, as an adult, shares responsibility assuming she knew and participated.
 
Who cares what she said. What I know is she is a child of a celebrity who was cashing in on it via social media. Good for her. Problem for her now is the gravy train just crashed, her appeal on social media is greatly diminished, Mom and Dad are probably going to prison for a few years...now it gets interesting, she is going to have to learn how make an honest living and who knows what exactly her academic credentials are. Good luck to her, life just got a whole lot harder for her.
There’s always porn
 
Obliviax is the smartest guy here. Just ask him.

I just claim to be smarter than those who feel personal attacks are a path to greater happiness and prosperity. For those offended, well.....
 
Nice attempt at deflection but you you'll need to walk back your quote.

"90% of kids going to college would have said the exact same thing."

This is simply not true. Not even close to true.

She is not on of the masses, the 90%. She has a YouTube channel with millions of followers and some sort of fashion sponsorship. She knew what she was saying as it enhances her brand. Being a young William Buckley stressing the importance of education doesn’t enhance her brand with her teen followers as a party girl.
 
She is not on of the masses, the 90%. She has a YouTube channel with millions of followers and some sort of fashion sponsorship. She knew what she was saying as it enhances her brand. Being a young William Buckley stressing the importance of education doesn’t enhance her brand with her teen followers as a party girl.
totally agree. that was the "brand". Not unlike a rapper who grew up in a nice environment but creates a "angry street brand". its all part of todays connected gig. drive clicks, make money. the brand may or may not be legit, but it is almost impossible to know.
 
Sorry, my friend, but Olivia Jade ain't never pulling no oar: Besides, it will ruin her manicure

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Has it been established how much the kids knew about this? I thought I read most parents kept them in the dark. Otherwise, her 'thoughts about college' are f'n reprehensible; seems to me she thinks she 'got in' on her own.

IMHO would have to be a willful ignorance on the part of the kids not to know. I mean, they should know that they didn't really get a 1500 on the SAT. And they should know they didn't compete in crew and that it was odd that the crew coach was contacting them. I guess it's possible that they were kept in the dark but it's a lot easier for me to believe that they were willing participants than it is to believe that they were duped. Something tells me this isn't the first time mommy and daddy made "arrangements" for them to get something they wanted.
 
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    .@llokman In your role, please insist that @CNN NOT align #PennState’s Old Main with a scandal it has nothing to do with. This is ridiculously lazy journalism; your stakeholders care that you make an effort to fix it.

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Replying to @MaribethSchmidt @llokman @CNN
Thank you, Maribeth. We immediately called CNN yesterday when it aired and they pulled the image, and apologized on air as well.

8:19 PM - 14 Mar 2019
 
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  1. Maribeth Schmidt‏@MaribethSchmidt 20h20 hours ago
    .@llokman In your role, please insist that @CNN NOT align #PennState’s Old Main with a scandal it has nothing to do with. This is ridiculously lazy journalism; your stakeholders care that you make an effort to fix it.

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Replying to @MaribethSchmidt @llokman @CNN
Thank you, Maribeth. We immediately called CNN yesterday when it aired and they pulled the image, and apologized on air as well.

8:19 PM - 14 Mar 2019
CNN: Old habits are hard to break.
 
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  1. Maribeth Schmidt‏@MaribethSchmidt 20h20 hours ago
    .@llokman In your role, please insist that @CNN NOT align #PennState’s Old Main with a scandal it has nothing to do with. This is ridiculously lazy journalism; your stakeholders care that you make an effort to fix it.

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Replying to @MaribethSchmidt @llokman @CNN
Thank you, Maribeth. We immediately called CNN yesterday when it aired and they pulled the image, and apologized on air as well.

8:19 PM - 14 Mar 2019

So now Penn State cares about a false narrative and bad press?
 
If you've read the posts on this site long enough.....you should tend to be more forgiving of comments by an 18 year old.
 
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  1. Maribeth Schmidt‏@MaribethSchmidt 20h20 hours ago
    .@llokman In your role, please insist that @CNN NOT align #PennState’s Old Main with a scandal it has nothing to do with. This is ridiculously lazy journalism; your stakeholders care that you make an effort to fix it.

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Replying to @MaribethSchmidt @llokman @CNN
Thank you, Maribeth. We immediately called CNN yesterday when it aired and they pulled the image, and apologized on air as well.

8:19 PM - 14 Mar 2019


Well lest be honest here that is one fine 'college looking' building
 
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Yikes. William H. Macy's latest interview in Men's Health.

"Never lie. It's the cheapest way to go. Lies cost you a lot, and they’re never worth what they cost," he preached.

Despite the brief nature of the interview, he revisited this mantra again when asked: "What human qualities do you most despise?"

"Dishonesty. Self-delusion. Lack of character," he replied, even singling out President Trump as his touchstone for the qualities he did not like.

Yet when Macy was asked which living person he admires most, he picked someone who would be charged with conspiracy to commit honest services fraud just one month later.

"I married very, very well," he boasted. "It's great fun for me to watch Felicity. I love the way she mothers our daughters."​
 
Yikes. William H. Macy's latest interview in Men's Health.

"Never lie. It's the cheapest way to go. Lies cost you a lot, and they’re never worth what they cost," he preached.

Despite the brief nature of the interview, he revisited this mantra again when asked: "What human qualities do you most despise?"

"Dishonesty. Self-delusion. Lack of character," he replied, even singling out President Trump as his touchstone for the qualities he did not like.

Yet when Macy was asked which living person he admires most, he picked someone who would be charged with conspiracy to commit honest services fraud just one month later.

"I married very, very well," he boasted. "It's great fun for me to watch Felicity. I love the way she mothers our daughters."​

I think he may have given what he believes is an honest answer because, like so many, he sees nothing wrong here. There is a mentality by many in society that "everyone does it" and so it's not wrong. From cheating on income taxes to texting while driving, people will argue that they are no different than everyone else. I have never bought into that mentality, but I know lots of others, in all walks of life, that have. Honest men and women are a dying breed and few mourn their passing.

POST LIMITED: I am still being "post limited" on this board. After I made this post I tried to make another and could not. The most I am able to do is 3 in a day and that is spread out over 24 hours. I am not sure what the problem is. Since I joined this past Tuesday I have not violated any board rule and have been respectful in every post. I enjoy this board and love the Penn State information but continuing to battle to make routine posts is not worth the time. I am making this post my last one and am moving on. Being a new guy I doubt anyone will notice, or care if they do, but I just wanted to make note of why I am leaving.
 
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Yikes. William H. Macy's latest interview in Men's Health.

"Never lie. It's the cheapest way to go. Lies cost you a lot, and they’re never worth what they cost," he preached.

Despite the brief nature of the interview, he revisited this mantra again when asked: "What human qualities do you most despise?"

"Dishonesty. Self-delusion. Lack of character," he replied, even singling out President Trump as his touchstone for the qualities he did not like.

Yet when Macy was asked which living person he admires most, he picked someone who would be charged with conspiracy to commit honest services fraud just one month later.

"I married very, very well," he boasted. "It's great fun for me to watch Felicity. I love the way she mothers our daughters."​

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Rich people buying their way into name schools isn't new- but it works out for them

I think the shocking part isn’t that rich people buy or influence their way into elite schools - it’s that for the guys you listed, their fathers probably made a call and a donation and that was that. Trying to buy your way in via test manipulation, cheating, and backdoor bribes just seems so much worse.
 
I think the shocking part isn’t that rich people buy or influence their way into elite schools - it’s that for the guys you listed, their fathers probably made a call and a donation and that was that. Trying to buy your way in via test manipulation, cheating, and backdoor bribes just seems so much worse.
True. While distasteful one path is legal, the other illegal
 
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I think the shocking part isn’t that rich people buy or influence their way into elite schools - it’s that for the guys you listed, their fathers probably made a call and a donation and that was that. Trying to buy your way in via test manipulation, cheating, and backdoor bribes just seems so much worse.
maybe, but I'm thinking that for every unqualified admission, there is a deserving kid somewhere who got screwed over
 
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WRT the Kennedy/Bush/etc route, yes one undeserving kid gets screwed, but at least a large number of other students benefit (eg they have a building to live or attend classes in). With this new scam, absolutely no other students benefit. Big difference, IMHO. Oh yeah, and one route is illegal, as mentioned, so there's that too.
 
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WRT the Kennedy/Bush/etc route, yes one undeserving kid gets screwed, but at least a large number of other students benefit (eg they have a building to live or attend classes in).

Nobody else really benefits but there's nothing that can be done about it, either. No school is going to reject a Bush or Kennedy, or the child of any president. Or, if they did, the school would look really stupid.

It's not fair but it's also not fraud, which is what is happening here.
 
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Nobody else really benefits but there's nothing that can be done about it, either. No school is going to reject a Bush or Kennedy, or the child of any president. Or, if they did, the school would look really stupid.

It's not fair but it's also not fraud, which is what is happening here.
Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Trump get rejected by Stanford?
 
WRT the Kennedy/Bush/etc route, yes one undeserving kid gets screwed, but at least a large number of other students benefit (eg they have a building to live or attend classes in). With this new scam, absolutely no other students benefit. Big difference, IMHO. Oh yeah, and one route is illegal, as mentioned, so there's that too.
"legal" and "right" aren't the same thing
 
Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Trump get rejected by Stanford?

I'd be surprised if Trump applied to Stanford. First, it didn't/doesn't have an undergraduate business school. Second, he seemed to have "separation" issues after living away from his family at boarding school for five years. He initially enrolled at Fordham and commuted from home. After two years, he transferred to Penn. Per accounts from classmates, he was seldom seen on campus during weekends.
 
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Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Trump get rejected by Stanford?
Trump himself may have been rejected from colleges in the 1960s. But what I said is that colleges wouldn't reject a president's child. He certainly was not a president's child and unless the admissions officer had a time machine they didn't know who he was or what he was going to do. And I'm talking about undergraduate admissions.
 
well, for one thing they weren't able to check the box as a 'foreign' student. Where's your picture of Stanford student Chelsea?

I think the three images were a reference to families which were wealthy long before those in the photos came along. I don't believe the Clintons or Rodhams were living the high life at Hyannis Port, Kennebunkport, or Park Ave. However, as noted above, it's unlikely many "elite" universities would deny admission to a presidential child who wasn't at least an above average student. It helps those universities keep up the "elite" image.
 
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