Do You Think

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

It would be fair to ask each PSU OL and DL
If they really are interested in showing up the morning of game day? It might save a lot on laundry
bills.

Just think Maryland played UM better. Depressing to say but from what I saw yesterday Michigan at 7-0 still has not played anybody.

 

[jimarnp]

It would be fair to ask each PSU OL and DL
If they really are interested in showing up the morning of game day? It might save a lot on laundry
bills.

Just think Maryland played UM better. Depressing to say but from what I saw yesterday Michigan at 7-0 still has not played anybody.

I think this is a physics problem as much as anything else (F=MA). Michigan line is bigger than PSU defensive line ( save, Mustipher). They appeared significantly larger (2-4 inches, and 10-30 pounds at least). Combine that with a very large wingspan that can swallow a 200 to 230 pound linebacker ( ignored continually by "referines")at just the right time, to allow the back to run for 60+ yard touchdowns. ---We "out athlet-ed" them in the first half....thats what kept us in the game for the first 2 1/2 quarters.. Our "D" was quick, and shut them down in the RED ZONE, when the field got smaller.
Our OL is significantly smaller than theirs, although it appears that we have some big bodied freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the roster that are presumably "developing". --We need 3-4 more O-linemen like OLU (left tackle)....then we can run the ball down everyones throat.
--This was simply a very good heavyweight boxer, outlasting (and ultimately, destroying....F=MA)a very good lightweight boxer.
---You won't like this, but Franklin's right. "we need bigger bodies" up front

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

PSU has 300+ Pounders across the OL 2 deep. All those words you wasted...

 

[The Spin Meister]

It would be fair to ask each PSU OL and DL
If they really are interested in showing up the morning of game day? It might save a lot on laundry
bills.

Really dumb.

 

[jimarnp]

PSU has 300+ Pounders across the OL 2 deep. All those words you wasted...

and the only one who significantly matches up is OLU. ---Wormley, Wallace, Effner Barely average 300. Effner is 290's. -- Michigan's DL had 320, 330, 350 pounders......F=MA. Words not wasted.

 

[rrdd2021]

It would be fair to ask each PSU OL and DL
If they really are interested in showing up the morning of game day? It might save a lot on laundry
bills.

Just think Maryland played UM better. Depressing to say but from what I saw yesterday Michigan at 7-0 still has not played anybody.

Go back and watch Michigan's games with Iowa and Indiana. They went toe to toe in the trenches with Michigan and only gave up around 160 to 170 yards - don't remember the exact figures - to the Michigan rushing attack. PSU gave up over 400 yards. Think about that Iowa-Indiana vs PSU DLs and LBs. That's just scary

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Keep making up fake numbers these are updated to present not high school weight. Funny that the heaviest are not starters. Your argument that college teams need 325-340 OL to be excellent is Pure BS. Look all around the top 20... Maybe you should call the coaching staff and ask them why they aren't starting our 340 pounders ahead of the 290+/_ guys... lol

2022 Football Roster

#	FULL NAME	POS.	EXP.	HT.	WT.	HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL	PREVIOUS SCHOOL
3	Johnny Dixon	CB	Jr.	6-0	190	Tampa, Fla. / Chamberlain	South Carolina
4	Kalen King	CB	So.	5-11	189	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
5	Cam Miller	CB	Fr.	6-0	178	Fernandina Beach, Fla. / Trinity Christian Academy
8	Marquis Wilson	CB	Jr.	5-11	180	Windsor, Conn. / Windsor
9	Joey Porter Jr.	CB	R-Jr.	6-2	194	Bakersfield, Calif. / North Allegheny (Pa.)
13	Cristian Driver	CB	Fr.	5-11	192	Flower Mound, Texas / Liberty Christian
19	Xavier Copening	CB	Fr.	6-1	187	Enfield, Conn. / Avon Old Farms
24	Jeffrey Davis Jr.	CB	R-Fr.	6-0	177	Bristol, Conn. / Kingswood Oxford
25	Daequan Hardy	CB	R-Jr.	5-9	179	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Penn Hills
31	Kolin Dinkins	CB	Fr.	6-2	182	Wexford, Pa. / North Allegheny
35	Jace Tutty	CB	R-Fr.	5-11	188	Stroudsburg, Pa. / Stroudsburg
36	Stephen Ripka	CB	R-Fr.	6-2	181	Spring Mills, Pa. / Penns Valley
18	Davon Townley Jr.	DE	R-Fr.	6-6	267	Minneapolis, MN / North Community High School
20	Adisa Isaac	DE	R-Jr.	6-4	243	Brooklyn, N.Y. / Canarsie
33	Dani Dennis-Sutton	DE	Fr.	6-5	253	Millsboro, Del. / McDonogh School (Md.)
3 Really dumb.	Zuriah Fisher	DE	So.	6-3	250	Aliquippa, Pa. / Aliquippa
44	Chop Robinson	DE	So.	6-3	239	Gaithersburg, Md. / Quince Orchard	Maryland
46	Nick Tarburton	DE	R-Sr.	6-3	258	Green Lane, Pa. / Pennridge
56	Amin Vanover	DE	So.	6-4	264	Newark, N.J. / St. Joseph's
90	Rodney McGraw	DE	R-Fr.	6-5	263	Chicago, Ill. / Elkhart (Ind.)
92	Smith Vilbert	DE	R-Jr.	6-6	256	Monsey, N.Y. / St. Joseph's Regional (N.J.)
94	Jake Wilson	DE	R-So.	6-3	249	Nazareth, Pa. / Nazareth
98	Andrew Sharga	DE	Fr.	6-4	230	Northampton, Pa. / Northampton Area
28	Zane Durant	DT	Fr.	6-1	276	Lake Nona, Fla. / Lake Nona
47	Alex Furmanek	DT	R-Jr.	6-2	297	North East, Pa. / North East
51	Hakeem Beamon	DT	R-Jr.	6-3	264	Midlothian, Va. / Manchester
52	Jordan van den Berg	DT	R-Fr.	6-3	295	Johannesburg, South Africa / Providence Christian Academy	Iowa Western
55	Fatorma Mulbah	DT	So.	6-3	296	Harrisburg, Pa. / Susquehanna Township
58	Kaleb Artis	DT	Fr.	6-4	315	Westbury, N.Y. / St. Francis Preparatory School
91	Dvon Ellies	DT	R-Jr.	6-1	295	Burtonsville, Md. / McDonogh School
97	PJ Mustipher	DT	Sr.+	6-4	318	Owings Mills, Md. / McDonogh School
99	Coziah Izzard	DT	R-So.	6-3	292	Columbia, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
92	Jake Pinegar	K	R-Sr.	6-2	199	Ankeny, Iowa / Ankeny Centennial
93	Sander Sahaydak	K	R-Fr.	6-0	176	Bethlehem, Pa. / Liberty High School
96	Mitchell Groh	K	R-Fr.	6-0	185	Dallastown, Pa. / Dallastown Area
0	Jonathan Sutherland	LB	R-Sr.+	5-11	214	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada / Episcopal (Va.)
11	Abdul Carter	LB	Fr.	6-3	233	Philadelphia, Pa. / La Salle College
14	Tyrece Mills	LB	So.	6-1	205	Philadelphia, PA / Northeast	Lackawanna C.C.
23	Curtis Jacobs	LB	So.	6-1	227	Glen Burnie, Md. / McDonogh School
27	Bobby Walchak	LB	R-Fr.	5-11	214	Pottsville, Pa. / Potsville Area
32	Keon Wylie	LB	Fr.	6-2	206	Philadelphia, Pa. / Imhotep Charter
34	Dominic DeLuca	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	209	West Pittston, Pa. / Wyoming Area
39	Robbie Dwyer	LB	R-Jr.	6-1	259	Pringle, Pa. / Wyoming Valley West
41	Kobe King	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	247	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
42	Jamari Buddin	LB	R-Fr.	6-2	216	Ypsilanti, Mich. / Belleville
42	Jackson Pryts	LB	Fr.	6-3	208	Hermitage, Pa. / Hickory
43	Tyler Elsdon	LB	So.	6-2	236	Frackville, Pa. / North Schuylkill
45	Charlie Katshir	LB	R-Sr.	6-3	234	Camp Hill, Pa. / Cumberland Valley
48	Cody Romano	LB	R-Sr.	6-2	223	Newton, N.J. / Blair Academy
4	Ben Chizmar	LB	R-Fr.	6-0	218	Gibsonia, Pa. / Mars Area
51	Jimmy Christ	OL	R-So.	6-7	316	Sterling, Va. / Dominion
52	Dominic Rulli	OL	Fr.	6-3	265	Burlington, Ky. / The Taft School (Conn.)
53	Nick Dawkins	OL	So.	6-4	315	Allentown, Pa. / Parkland
54	Ian Harvie	OL	Fr.	6-2	260	Royersford, Pa. / Spring-Ford
55	JB Nelson	OL	R-So.	6-5	310	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Mount Lebanon	Lackawanna C.C.
57	Ibrahim Traore	OL	R-So.	6-5	312	Bronx, N.Y. / Frederick Douglas Academy 1
58	Landon Tengwall	OL	R-Fr.	6-6	321	Annapolis, Md. / Our Lady of Good Counsel
64	Hunter Nourzad	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	312	Marietta, Ga. / The Walker School	Cornell
65	Jim Fitzgerald	OL	Fr.	6-7	313	Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
66	Drew Shelton	OL	Fr.	6-5	296	Downington, Pa. / Downington West
69	Ben Hartman	OL	Fr.	6-4	262	Alpharetta, Ga. / Milton
70	Juice Scruggs	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	310	Ashtabula, Ohio / Cathedral Prep (Pa.)
71	Vega Ioane	OL	Fr.	6-4	336	Graham, WA / Graham-Kapowsin
72	Bryce Effner	OL	R-Sr.	6-5	294	Aurora, Ill. / Metea Valley
73	Maleek McNeil	OL	Fr.	6-7	336	New York, N.Y. / Walter Panas
74	Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	So.	6-6	321	Waldorf, Md. / Gonzaga College High School
75	Matt Detisch	OL	Fr.	6-6	297	Mars, Pa. / Mars Area
76	Sam Siafa	OL	Fr.	6-4	269	Downingtown, Pa. / Downingtown West
77	Sal Wormley	OL	R-Jr.	6-3	302	Newark, N.J. / Smyrna (Del.)
78	Golden Israel-Achumba	OL	R-So.	6-4	315	Bowie, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
79	Caedan Wallace	OL	R-Jr.	6-5	321	Robbinsville, N.J. / The Hun School

 

[The Spin Meister]

Keep making up fake numbers these are updated to present not high school weight. Funny that the heaviest are not starters. Your argument that college teams need 325-340 OL to be excellent is Pure BS. Look all around the top 20... Maybe you should call the coaching staff and ask them why they aren't starting our 340 pounders ahead of the 290+/_ guys... lol

2022 Football Roster

#	FULL NAME	POS.	EXP.	HT.	WT.	HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL	PREVIOUS SCHOOL
3	Johnny Dixon	CB	Jr.	6-0	190	Tampa, Fla. / Chamberlain	South Carolina
4	Kalen King	CB	So.	5-11	189	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
5	Cam Miller	CB	Fr.	6-0	178	Fernandina Beach, Fla. / Trinity Christian Academy
8	Marquis Wilson	CB	Jr.	5-11	180	Windsor, Conn. / Windsor
9	Joey Porter Jr.	CB	R-Jr.	6-2	194	Bakersfield, Calif. / North Allegheny (Pa.)
13	Cristian Driver	CB	Fr.	5-11	192	Flower Mound, Texas / Liberty Christian
19	Xavier Copening	CB	Fr.	6-1	187	Enfield, Conn. / Avon Old Farms
24	Jeffrey Davis Jr.	CB	R-Fr.	6-0	177	Bristol, Conn. / Kingswood Oxford
25	Daequan Hardy	CB	R-Jr.	5-9	179	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Penn Hills
31	Kolin Dinkins	CB	Fr.	6-2	182	Wexford, Pa. / North Allegheny
35	Jace Tutty	CB	R-Fr.	5-11	188	Stroudsburg, Pa. / Stroudsburg
36	Stephen Ripka	CB	R-Fr.	6-2	181	Spring Mills, Pa. / Penns Valley
18	Davon Townley Jr.	DE	R-Fr.	6-6	267	Minneapolis, MN / North Community High School
20	Adisa Isaac	DE	R-Jr.	6-4	243	Brooklyn, N.Y. / Canarsie
33	Dani Dennis-Sutton	DE	Fr.	6-5	253	Millsboro, Del. / McDonogh School (Md.)
3	Zuriah Fisher	DE	So.	6-3	250	Aliquippa, Pa. / Aliquippa
44	Chop Robinson	DE	So.	6-3	239	Gaithersburg, Md. / Quince Orchard	Maryland
46	Nick Tarburton	DE	R-Sr.	6-3	258	Green Lane, Pa. / Pennridge
56	Amin Vanover	DE	So.	6-4	264	Newark, N.J. / St. Joseph's
90	Rodney McGraw	DE	R-Fr.	6-5	263	Chicago, Ill. / Elkhart (Ind.)
92	Smith Vilbert	DE	R-Jr.	6-6	256	Monsey, N.Y. / St. Joseph's Regional (N.J.)
94	Jake Wilson	DE	R-So.	6-3	249	Nazareth, Pa. / Nazareth
98	Andrew Sharga	DE	Fr.	6-4	230	Northampton, Pa. / Northampton Area
28	Zane Durant	DT	Fr.	6-1	276	Lake Nona, Fla. / Lake Nona
47	Alex Furmanek	DT	R-Jr.	6-2	297	North East, Pa. / North East
51	Hakeem Beamon	DT	R-Jr.	6-3	264	Midlothian, Va. / Manchester
52	Jordan van den Berg	DT	R-Fr.	6-3	295	Johannesburg, South Africa / Providence Christian Academy	Iowa Western
55	Fatorma Mulbah	DT	So.	6-3	296	Harrisburg, Pa. / Susquehanna Township
58	Kaleb Artis	DT	Fr.	6-4	315	Westbury, N.Y. / St. Francis Preparatory School
91	Dvon Ellies	DT	R-Jr.	6-1	295	Burtonsville, Md. / McDonogh School
97	PJ Mustipher	DT	Sr.+	6-4	318	Owings Mills, Md. / McDonogh School
99	Coziah Izzard	DT	R-So.	6-3	292	Columbia, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
92	Jake Pinegar	K	R-Sr.	6-2	199	Ankeny, Iowa / Ankeny Centennial
93	Sander Sahaydak	K	R-Fr.	6-0	176	Bethlehem, Pa. / Liberty High School
96	Mitchell Groh	K	R-Fr.	6-0	185	Dallastown, Pa. / Dallastown Area
0	Jonathan Sutherland	LB	R-Sr.+	5-11	214	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada / Episcopal (Va.)
11	Abdul Carter	LB	Fr.	6-3	233	Philadelphia, Pa. / La Salle College
14	Tyrece Mills	LB	So.	6-1	205	Philadelphia, PA / Northeast	Lackawanna C.C.
23	Curtis Jacobs	LB	So.	6-1	227	Glen Burnie, Md. / McDonogh School
27	Bobby Walchak	LB	R-Fr.	5-11	214	Pottsville, Pa. / Potsville Area
32	Keon Wylie	LB	Fr.	6-2	206	Philadelphia, Pa. / Imhotep Charter
34	Dominic DeLuca	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	209	West Pittston, Pa. / Wyoming Area
39	Robbie Dwyer	LB	R-Jr.	6-1	259	Pringle, Pa. / Wyoming Valley West
41	Kobe King	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	247	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
42	Jamari Buddin	LB	R-Fr.	6-2	216	Ypsilanti, Mich. / Belleville
42	Jackson Pryts	LB	Fr.	6-3	208	Hermitage, Pa. / Hickory
43	Tyler Elsdon	LB	So.	6-2	236	Frackville, Pa. / North Schuylkill
45	Charlie Katshir	LB	R-Sr.	6-3	234	Camp Hill, Pa. / Cumberland Valley
48	Cody Romano	LB	R-Sr.	6-2	223	Newton, N.J. / Blair Academy
4	Ben Chizmar	LB	R-Fr.	6-0	218	Gibsonia, Pa. / Mars Area
51	Jimmy Christ	OL	R-So.	6-7	316	Sterling, Va. / Dominion
52	Dominic Rulli	OL	Fr.	6-3	265	Burlington, Ky. / The Taft School (Conn.)
53	Nick Dawkins	OL	So.	6-4	315	Allentown, Pa. / Parkland
54	Ian Harvie	OL	Fr.	6-2	260	Royersford, Pa. / Spring-Ford
55	JB Nelson	OL	R-So.	6-5	310	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Mount Lebanon	Lackawanna C.C.
57	Ibrahim Traore	OL	R-So.	6-5	312	Bronx, N.Y. / Frederick Douglas Academy 1
58	Landon Tengwall	OL	R-Fr.	6-6	321	Annapolis, Md. / Our Lady of Good Counsel
64	Hunter Nourzad	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	312	Marietta, Ga. / The Walker School	Cornell
65	Jim Fitzgerald	OL	Fr.	6-7	313	Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
66	Drew Shelton	OL	Fr.	6-5	296	Downington, Pa. / Downington West
69	Ben Hartman	OL	Fr.	6-4	262	Alpharetta, Ga. / Milton
70	Juice Scruggs	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	310	Ashtabula, Ohio / Cathedral Prep (Pa.)
71	Vega Ioane	OL	Fr.	6-4	336	Graham, WA / Graham-Kapowsin
72	Bryce Effner	OL	R-Sr.	6-5	294	Aurora, Ill. / Metea Valley
73	Maleek McNeil	OL	Fr.	6-7	336	New York, N.Y. / Walter Panas
74	Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	So.	6-6	321	Waldorf, Md. / Gonzaga College High School
75	Matt Detisch	OL	Fr.	6-6	297	Mars, Pa. / Mars Area
76	Sam Siafa	OL	Fr.	6-4	269	Downingtown, Pa. / Downingtown West
77	Sal Wormley	OL	R-Jr.	6-3	302	Newark, N.J. / Smyrna (Del.)
78	Golden Israel-Achumba	OL	R-So.	6-4	315	Bowie, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
79	Caedan Wallace	OL	R-Jr.	6-5	321	Robbinsville, N.J. / The Hun School

I never said a word about size, weight, numbers, or anything. Just said your opening statement was really dumb. Which it was.

 

[jimarnp]

Keep making up fake numbers these are updated to present not high school weight. Funny that the heaviest are not starters. Your argument that college teams need 325-340 OL to be excellent is Pure BS. Look all around the top 20... Maybe you should call the coaching staff and ask them why they aren't starting our 340 pounders ahead of the 290+/_ guys... lol

2022 Football Roster

#	FULL NAME	POS.	EXP.	HT.	WT.	HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL	PREVIOUS SCHOOL
3	Johnny Dixon	CB	Jr.	6-0	190	Tampa, Fla. / Chamberlain	South Carolina
4	Kalen King	CB	So.	5-11	189	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
5	Cam Miller	CB	Fr.	6-0	178	Fernandina Beach, Fla. / Trinity Christian Academy
8	Marquis Wilson	CB	Jr.	5-11	180	Windsor, Conn. / Windsor
9	Joey Porter Jr.	CB	R-Jr.	6-2	194	Bakersfield, Calif. / North Allegheny (Pa.)
13	Cristian Driver	CB	Fr.	5-11	192	Flower Mound, Texas / Liberty Christian
19	Xavier Copening	CB	Fr.	6-1	187	Enfield, Conn. / Avon Old Farms
24	Jeffrey Davis Jr.	CB	R-Fr.	6-0	177	Bristol, Conn. / Kingswood Oxford
25	Daequan Hardy	CB	R-Jr.	5-9	179	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Penn Hills
31	Kolin Dinkins	CB	Fr.	6-2	182	Wexford, Pa. / North Allegheny
35	Jace Tutty	CB	R-Fr.	5-11	188	Stroudsburg, Pa. / Stroudsburg
36	Stephen Ripka	CB	R-Fr.	6-2	181	Spring Mills, Pa. / Penns Valley
18	Davon Townley Jr.	DE	R-Fr.	6-6	267	Minneapolis, MN / North Community High School
20	Adisa Isaac	DE	R-Jr.	6-4	243	Brooklyn, N.Y. / Canarsie
33	Dani Dennis-Sutton	DE	Fr.	6-5	253	Millsboro, Del. / McDonogh School (Md.)
3	Zuriah Fisher	DE	So.	6-3	250	Aliquippa, Pa. / Aliquippa
44	Chop Robinson	DE	So.	6-3	239	Gaithersburg, Md. / Quince Orchard	Maryland
46	Nick Tarburton	DE	R-Sr.	6-3	258	Green Lane, Pa. / Pennridge
56	Amin Vanover	DE	So.	6-4	264	Newark, N.J. / St. Joseph's
90	Rodney McGraw	DE	R-Fr.	6-5	263	Chicago, Ill. / Elkhart (Ind.)
92	Smith Vilbert	DE	R-Jr.	6-6	256	Monsey, N.Y. / St. Joseph's Regional (N.J.)
94	Jake Wilson	DE	R-So.	6-3	249	Nazareth, Pa. / Nazareth
98	Andrew Sharga	DE	Fr.	6-4	230	Northampton, Pa. / Northampton Area
28	Zane Durant	DT	Fr.	6-1	276	Lake Nona, Fla. / Lake Nona
47	Alex Furmanek	DT	R-Jr.	6-2	297	North East, Pa. / North East
51	Hakeem Beamon	DT	R-Jr.	6-3	264	Midlothian, Va. / Manchester
52	Jordan van den Berg	DT	R-Fr.	6-3	295	Johannesburg, South Africa / Providence Christian Academy	Iowa Western
55	Fatorma Mulbah	DT	So.	6-3	296	Harrisburg, Pa. / Susquehanna Township
58	Kaleb Artis	DT	Fr.	6-4	315	Westbury, N.Y. / St. Francis Preparatory School
91	Dvon Ellies	DT	R-Jr.	6-1	295	Burtonsville, Md. / McDonogh School
97	PJ Mustipher	DT	Sr.+	6-4	318	Owings Mills, Md. / McDonogh School
99	Coziah Izzard	DT	R-So.	6-3	292	Columbia, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
92	Jake Pinegar	K	R-Sr.	6-2	199	Ankeny, Iowa / Ankeny Centennial
93	Sander Sahaydak	K	R-Fr.	6-0	176	Bethlehem, Pa. / Liberty High School
96	Mitchell Groh	K	R-Fr.	6-0	185	Dallastown, Pa. / Dallastown Area
0	Jonathan Sutherland	LB	R-Sr.+	5-11	214	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada / Episcopal (Va.)
11	Abdul Carter	LB	Fr.	6-3	233	Philadelphia, Pa. / La Salle College
14	Tyrece Mills	LB	So.	6-1	205	Philadelphia, PA / Northeast	Lackawanna C.C.
23	Curtis Jacobs	LB	So.	6-1	227	Glen Burnie, Md. / McDonogh School
27	Bobby Walchak	LB	R-Fr.	5-11	214	Pottsville, Pa. / Potsville Area
32	Keon Wylie	LB	Fr.	6-2	206	Philadelphia, Pa. / Imhotep Charter
34	Dominic DeLuca	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	209	West Pittston, Pa. / Wyoming Area
39	Robbie Dwyer	LB	R-Jr.	6-1	259	Pringle, Pa. / Wyoming Valley West
41	Kobe King	LB	R-Fr.	6-1	247	Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
42	Jamari Buddin	LB	R-Fr.	6-2	216	Ypsilanti, Mich. / Belleville
42	Jackson Pryts	LB	Fr.	6-3	208	Hermitage, Pa. / Hickory
43	Tyler Elsdon	LB	So.	6-2	236	Frackville, Pa. / North Schuylkill
45	Charlie Katshir	LB	R-Sr.	6-3	234	Camp Hill, Pa. / Cumberland Valley
48	Cody Romano	LB	R-Sr.	6-2	223	Newton, N.J. / Blair Academy
4	Ben Chizmar	LB	R-Fr.	6-0	218	Gibsonia, Pa. / Mars Area
51	Jimmy Christ	OL	R-So.	6-7	316	Sterling, Va. / Dominion
52	Dominic Rulli	OL	Fr.	6-3	265	Burlington, Ky. / The Taft School (Conn.)
53	Nick Dawkins	OL	So.	6-4	315	Allentown, Pa. / Parkland
54	Ian Harvie	OL	Fr.	6-2	260	Royersford, Pa. / Spring-Ford
55	JB Nelson	OL	R-So.	6-5	310	Pittsburgh, Pa. / Mount Lebanon	Lackawanna C.C.
57	Ibrahim Traore	OL	R-So.	6-5	312	Bronx, N.Y. / Frederick Douglas Academy 1
58	Landon Tengwall	OL	R-Fr.	6-6	321	Annapolis, Md. / Our Lady of Good Counsel
64	Hunter Nourzad	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	312	Marietta, Ga. / The Walker School	Cornell
65	Jim Fitzgerald	OL	Fr.	6-7	313	Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
66	Drew Shelton	OL	Fr.	6-5	296	Downington, Pa. / Downington West
69	Ben Hartman	OL	Fr.	6-4	262	Alpharetta, Ga. / Milton
70	Juice Scruggs	OL	R-Sr.	6-3	310	Ashtabula, Ohio / Cathedral Prep (Pa.)
71	Vega Ioane	OL	Fr.	6-4	336	Graham, WA / Graham-Kapowsin
72	Bryce Effner	OL	R-Sr.	6-5	294	Aurora, Ill. / Metea Valley
73	Maleek McNeil	OL	Fr.	6-7	336	New York, N.Y. / Walter Panas
74	Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	So.	6-6	321	Waldorf, Md. / Gonzaga College High School
75	Matt Detisch	OL	Fr.	6-6	297	Mars, Pa. / Mars Area
76	Sam Siafa	OL	Fr.	6-4	269	Downingtown, Pa. / Downingtown West
77	Sal Wormley	OL	R-Jr.	6-3	302	Newark, N.J. / Smyrna (Del.)
78	Golden Israel-Achumba	OL	R-So.	6-4	315	Bowie, Md. / DeMatha Catholic
79	Caedan Wallace	OL	R-Jr.	6-5	321	Robbinsville, N.J. / The Hun School

Not sure if you're conflating things, or what. My argument is F=MA ( force= mass X acceleration). Our OL is significantly smaller (in mass) than Michigan DL. The bigger, stronger force usually wins. --I didn't say...or even elude to our OL needing to be 340 pounds. I stated that we need 3-4 OLU's (about 6'6" 310 pounds , with long arms and good feet). If you want to argue that we haven't been able to recruit enough OLU "types"....go ahead. On that, you'd be right.
---OL is the most difficult position to recruit and gauge success at the next level.

 

[ncgolfer]

We just got beat by a better football team. Penn State is actually a bit better than I thought they would be at this point. I originally thought after the Michigan game we would be no better than 4-2. I still think we have a deceit chance for 10-2. Certainly 9-3. I do not think we are going to see a collapse like last year. Too much good young talent that will get better and better. And better depth too.

 

[LandoComando]

We just got beat by a better football team. Penn State is actually a bit better than I thought they would be at this point. I originally thought after the Michigan game we would be no better than 4-2. I still think we have a deceit chance for 10-2. Certainly 9-3. I do not think we are going to see a collapse like last year. Too much good young talent that will get better and better. And better depth too.

Didn't you realize Auburn was as bad as they are or did you think Purdue was good?
There's no way anything less than 5-1 should have been tolerated right now
I still think we go 10-2 but yesterday showed how far away we are

 

[ncgolfer]

Didn't you realize Auburn was as bad as they are or did you think Purdue was good?
There's no way anything less than 5-1 should have been tolerated right now
I still think we go 10-2 but yesterday showed how far away we

As if you’re not tolerating something means anything. LOL !!! The team will be whatever it is whether you tolerate it or not. What a gasbag.

 

[LandoComando]

As if you’re not tolerating something means anything. LOL !!! The team will be whatever it is whether you tolerate it or not. What a gasbag.

Does anything any of us say mean anything?

 

[JayWye]

Go back and watch Michigan's games with Iowa and Indiana. They went toe to toe in the trenches with Michigan and only gave up around 160 to 170 yards - don't remember the exact figures - to the Michigan rushing attack. PSU gave up over 400 yards. Think about that Iowa-Indiana vs PSU DLs and LBs. That's just scary

Sobering stats for sure...

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Not sure if you're conflating things, or what. My argument is F=MA ( force= mass X acceleration). Our OL is significantly smaller (in mass) than Michigan DL. The bigger, stronger force usually wins. --I didn't say...or even elude to our OL needing to be 340 pounds. I stated that we need 3-4 OLU's (about 6'6" 310 pounds , with long arms and good feet). If you want to argue that we haven't been able to recruit enough OLU "types"....go ahead. On that, you'd be right.
---OL is the most difficult position to recruit and gauge success at the next level.

I'm conflating nothing. The New England Patriots Offensive line weighs less than PSUs offensive line. Research first post afterward.

 

[Online Persona]

Didn't you realize Auburn was as bad as they are or did you think Purdue was good?
There's no way anything less than 5-1 should have been tolerated right now
I still think we go 10-2 but yesterday showed how far away we are

Purdue is 5-2 with losses to 2 ranked teams with a combined 11-1 record. They are tied for the lead in the Big 10 west and possibly the favorite at the moment. They may even be ranked again this week.

Auburn is worse than we thought but even they just stayed within 2 TDs of the #9 team that will move up a few spots this week with 3 teams above them losing.

You don't strengthen your attacks on PSU by exaggerating when down playing our wins. Look, no one has a bunch of wins over ranked teams at this point in the year.

 

[LandoComando]

Purdue is 5-2 with losses to 2 ranked teams with a combined 11-1 record. They are tied for the lead in the Big 10 west and possibly the favorite at the moment. They may even be ranked again this week.

Auburn is worse than we thought but even they just stayed within 2 TDs of the #9 team that will move up a few spots this week with 3 teams above them losing.

You don't strengthen your attacks on PSU by exaggerating when down playing our wins. Look, no one has a bunch of wins over ranked teams at this point in the year.

Auburn isn't "worse than we thought"--Auburn was garbage on paper. The game yesterday wasn't as close as it looks

Syracuse beat NCSU without their QB--Syracuse has been set up very well with a cupcake schedule this year. Purdue barely survived Nebraska

Purdue nor Auburn are good. Central Michigan has already lost two MAC games. We all know our schedule is weak this year. Can't blame anyone--no one saw Auburn being this bad--we didn't know they'd foolishly hire Harsin but our schedule is trash. Trying to Purdue is a good team is scary and desperate.

 

[jimarnp]

I'm conflating nothing. The New England Patriots Offensive line weighs less than PSUs offensive line. Research first post afterward.

Research F=MA ? …… pretty sure that’s been done.—- At least my 10th grade physics teacher said so.

 

[Online Persona]

Auburn isn't "worse than we thought"--Auburn

Trying to Purdue is a good team is scary and desperate.

Again, Purdue is 5-2 with close losses to ranked teams with a combined 11-1 record. They are at the cusp of being ranked again and tied for the big 10 west lead. That's good, not great, but good.

What is your definition of a good team? Top 10?

 

[LandoComando]

Again, Purdue is 5-2 with close losses to ranked teams with a combined 11-1 record. They are at the cusp of being ranked again and tied for the big 10 west lead. That's good, not great, but good.

What is your definition of a good team? Top 10?

Close--top 15/20 depending on the year. Sometimes more/sometimes less. This is a down year--there's very few good teams as the rankings currently show us..

Again, the expectation should be for us to always beat a team like Purdue. Why anyone would go into a season "expecting" us to lose is illogical. We're far more talented with a 6th year starting QB and a coach in year 9.

 

[RickinDayton]

I think this is a physics problem as much as anything else (F=MA). Michigan line is bigger than PSU defensive line ( save, Mustipher). They appeared significantly larger (2-4 inches, and 10-30 pounds at least). Combine that with a very large wingspan that can swallow a 200 to 230 pound linebacker ( ignored continually by "referines")at just the right time, to allow the back to run for 60+ yard touchdowns. ---We "out athlet-ed" them in the first half....thats what kept us in the game for the first 2 1/2 quarters.. Our "D" was quick, and shut them down in the RED ZONE, when the field got smaller.
Our OL is significantly smaller than theirs, although it appears that we have some big bodied freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the roster that are presumably "developing". --We need 3-4 more O-linemen like OLU (left tackle)....then we can run the ball down everyones throat.
--This was simply a very good heavyweight boxer, outlasting (and ultimately, destroying....F=MA)a very good lightweight boxer.
---You won't like this, but Franklin's right. "we need bigger bodies" up front

Well he is right, but why has it taken him so long to realize this? He sees the elite teams and can easily gauge the size of their lines and their ability to impose their will. Too me it has been his stubbornness to stick with a system that does not fit the BIG and allow PSU to reach "elite" status.

 

[Online Persona]

Close--top 15/20 depending on the year. Sometimes more/sometimes less. This is a down year--there's very few good teams as the rankings currently show us..

Again, the expectation should be for us to always beat a team like Purdue. Why anyone would go into a season "expecting" us to lose is illogical. We're far more talented with a 6th year starting QB and a coach in year 9.

So then Penn State is currently a good team by your own definition.

 

[LandoComando]

So then Penn State is currently a good team by your own definition.

Borderline--unless we choke and lose a game we shouldn't we'll finish 10-2 and around 9-12.

 

[jimarnp]

Well he is right, but why has it taken him so long to realize this? He sees the elite teams and can easily gauge the size of their lines and their ability to impose their will. Too me it has been his stubbornness to stick with a system that does not fit the BIG and allow PSU to reach "elite" status.

Don’t think it has taken him this long, as he is an excellent identifier of talent, and a very good recruiter. It seems that a bunch of his top end OL and DL recruits that he’s identified over the years, have inexplicably gone elsewhere, and he/we are left largely with good athletes, but projects. Antithetically, he identifies top end skill players (QB, RB, WR, DB), and they largely stay/commit. —Could be the system….could be the position coaches… could be bad luck. —-and now, there’s NIL , ugh 👀

 

[KCLion]

Don’t think it has taken him this long, as he is an excellent identifier of talent, and a very good recruiter. It seems that a bunch of his top end OL and DL recruits that he’s identified over the years, have inexplicably gone elsewhere, and he/we are left largely with good athletes, but projects. Antithetically, he identifies top end skill players (QB, RB, WR, DB), and they largely stay/commit. —Could be the system….could be the position coaches… could be bad luck. —-and now, there’s NIL , ugh 👀

Identifying talent and getting said talent are both part of recruiting.

 

[jimarnp]

Identifying talent and getting said talent are both part of recruiting.

Thanks for clearing that up. 👀👀

 

[KCLion]

Thanks for clearing that up. 👀👀

You are welcome

 

[junior1]

I think this is a physics problem as much as anything else (F=MA). Michigan line is bigger than PSU defensive line ( save, Mustipher). They appeared significantly larger (2-4 inches, and 10-30 pounds at least). Combine that with a very large wingspan that can swallow a 200 to 230 pound linebacker ( ignored continually by "referines")at just the right time, to allow the back to run for 60+ yard touchdowns. ---We "out athlet-ed" them in the first half....thats what kept us in the game for the first 2 1/2 quarters.. Our "D" was quick, and shut them down in the RED ZONE, when the field got smaller.
Our OL is significantly smaller than theirs, although it appears that we have some big bodied freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the roster that are presumably "developing". --We need 3-4 more O-linemen like OLU (left tackle)....then we can run the ball down everyones throat.
--This was simply a very good heavyweight boxer, outlasting (and ultimately, destroying....F=MA)a very good lightweight boxer.
---You won't like this, but Franklin's right. "we need bigger bodies" up front

when we play USC and UCLA we'll be told that our O and D linemen are too big and slow for the california game

 

[PAgeologist]

Go back and watch Michigan's games with Iowa and Indiana. They went toe to toe in the trenches with Michigan and only gave up around 160 to 170 yards - don't remember the exact figures - to the Michigan rushing attack. PSU gave up over 400 yards. Think about that Iowa-Indiana vs PSU DLs and LBs. That's just scary

I saw a stat on ESPN (I think) that PSU gave up over 100 yards to each of the 2 Michigan backs BEFORE contact. Yikes.

 

[indynittany]

IMO, these kids need to go full speed in practice more often. They play soft. Not to pick on Singleton, but he was in position to pass block and got run over by a guy no bigger than him. It's like they aren't prepared for some smash mouth football.

Frankly, I like Michigan's team identity a helluva lot more than I like ours.

 

[rrdd2021]

I saw a stat on ESPN (I think) that PSU gave up over 100 yards to each of the 2 Michigan backs BEFORE contact. Yikes.

Real simple - not that hard. Because of non-existent LB play, the PSU DBs were making tackles downfield. That no. 16 for PSU had a solid game and probably made the most tackles - or so it seemed.

This PSU defense reminds many of the putrid OSU defenses of 2020 and 2021 when they were void of decent LB play also. The result - they fired their whole defensive staff (minus Larry Johnson). The result with their new staff - LBs Eichenberg (sp?) and Chambers have played lights out this year - in fact Eichenberg is being mentioned on several possible AA lists. It all comes down to coaching

 

[PAgeologist]

Real simple - not that hard. Because of non-existent LB play, the PSU DBs were making tackles downfield. That no. 16 for PSU had a solid game and probably made the most tackles - or so it seemed.

This PSU defense reminds many of the putrid OSU defenses of 2020 and 2021 when they were void of decent LB play also. The result - they fired their whole defensive staff (minus Larry Johnson). The result with their new staff - LBs Eichenberg (sp?) and Chambers have played lights out this year - in fact Eichenberg is being mentioned on several possible AA lists. It all comes down to coaching

I understand why it happened. I just can't fathom the DL and LBs being that bad. Its one thing to give up a ton of yards to good backs, but to not lay a hand on them for 200+ yards is crazy.

It wouldn't shock me to see another pitiful effort like that this week against Minnesota. You know they're cooking up a heavy power run game plan. Especially since they will be missing their QB.

OSUs last couple years weren't up to their standard, but not nearly this bad. I like the approach though. Clean house of those who weren't getting the job done. Unfortunately, anything close to that level of accountability just doesn't seem to be there with this program.