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All of that is acceptable if you are the #4 recruiter nationally. Those 5 stars and high end 4s don't come to a crummy crime ridden town in the cold Midwest from California, Florida, Nevada, and Texas.Since assistant coaches generally don't have long term contracts......the question is.....how many new contracts did OSU offer Zach? He didn't need to be fired. They didn't need to renew his contract. A muddled personal life, that clearly spilled over into his job should have resulted in a parting of ways. Its hard to believe that a person who exhibited such poor judgement (long standing marital discord, intoxicated driving, penis pictures in the White House, recorded sex acts, having pornographic items delivered to his place of employment etc.) turned the switch and preformed flawlessly on the job.
Since assistant coaches generally don't have long term contracts......the question is.....how many new contracts did OSU offer Zach? He didn't need to be fired. They didn't need to renew his contract. A muddled personal life, that clearly spilled over into his job should have resulted in a parting of ways. Its hard to believe that a person who exhibited such poor judgement (long standing marital discord, intoxicated driving, penis pictures in the White House, recorded sex acts, having pornographic items delivered to his place of employment etc.) turned the switch and preformed flawlessly on the job.
All of that is acceptable if you are the #4 recruiter nationally. Those 5 stars and high end 4s don't come to a crummy crime ridden town in the cold Midwest from California, Florida, Nevada, and Texas.
Not always the salesman. They have a pretty good prodict to sell.
That is undeniable. Great tradition to rely upon. Which makes it odd that they would rely upon such a shady figure to do the recruiting when he doesn’t seem to be that great at actually coaching. Sometimes it’s not the salesman, but sometimes it is the bagmen the salesman is associated with.
Wonder if Courtney would go nuclear and expose the bagman??
Wonder if Courtney would go nuclear and expose the bagman??
Yes. Omarosa.I wonder if she already has and McMurphy (or somebody else) is just waiting for the right time?
They are holding back for the day OSU absolves Urby. Ie, today.If she’s the source of the sex toy order and the dick pics I don’t see why she’d hold back on something like recruiting violations.
They are holding back for the day OSU absolves Urby. Ie, today.
Yea, I think it was definitely a mistake to bring Zach to Cbus.
In 2015 Courtney claimed abuse. The police investigated and no arrests were made nor did the DA file charges. But Urban should have fired him anyway? And now Urban should resign because he didn't fire him in 2015? None of that is reasonable. And whether or not Urban properly reported has EVERYTHING to do with the investigation.
Why would 5 stars from thousands of miles away give up Cali, Florida, Texas, Vegas winters for Columbus with all of their other choices? There are only some crime ridden parts of Columbus, so I guess there is that.Yeah, Columbus is a dump
The biggest question about the sex toys isn't that he was ordering them. But that he was having them sent to work. Sure no one would know what the packages were when delivered, but why couldn't they be delivered home? Is it because he was only using them at work?
McMurphy also posted text messages where Courtney Smith's mother was accusing Zach Smith of DV. At a minimum, given her conflicting stories, Courtney Smith's mother is not credible and would be viewed that way in court by a jury.
You are forgetting the 2009 incident in Florida where he was arrested for a felony for choking his pregnant wife. In that instance, she was convinced to not press charges by Meyer's life coach and Zach grand father Earle Bruce (which his family denies). You are also forgetting the text exchange where he admits to choking her in Mexico, or at a minimum he agreed to her stating that in a text message.
Zach Smith took a picture of his penis in the Whitehouse. Zach Smith had sex with multiple women (staffers and students) in the Woody Hayes Center. He has a DUI that he told no one about. He has broken numerous Ohio State policies (sex in the workplace) and probably could be criminally charged for his stunt at the Whitehouse. The guy is immature and makes rash decisions yet you find him to be credible?
Yea, I think it was definitely a mistake to bring Zach to Cbus.
In 2015 Courtney claimed abuse. The police investigated and no arrests were made nor did the DA file charges. But Urban should have fired him anyway? And now Urban should resign because he didn't fire him in 2015? None of that is reasonable. And whether or not Urban properly reported has EVERYTHING to do with the investigation.
Interesting comparing Urban to Joe. Let's see
. Initial incident
Urban 2009 - ZS arrested but Earl and Urban's life coach talk Courtney out of pressing charges
Joe 1998 - Joe is told that JS was investigated by police but was cleared with no charges or indications being made.
takeaway [sounds like Urban might have been involved in having CS not press charges] Joe was simply told investigated and nothing happened.]
. Intervening years
Urban moves to Cbus and HIRES ZS again
Joe - JS retires in 1999 at least in some part because Joe says spend more time with football and less with charity or retire. Some also speculate he did not support JS as head football coach at UVa when he interviewed.
takeaway [Urban actively working with ZS while Joe is distancing himself from JS]
. Next "event"
. Urban CS claims DV against ZS - Police investigate and DA does not file charges
. Urban [best case] - follows protocol and reports to supervisor presumably Gene Smith
. ZS is retained on staff
Joe. He is told of an event by a member of his staff. This member also told a licensed Dr and his father who have said they heard nothing warranting a contact to authorities.
Joe follows today's protocol before there ever was a protocol and reports to his supervisor AND head of campus security.
Despite JS no longer being employed by PSU or no claims by a victim [to this day] PSU AD contacts JS current employer who is also the likely source of the alleged victim to inform them.
The employer says if you are suggesting JS is a ped you are crazy and makes NO ATTEMPT to find alleged vic and corroborate accusation.
takeaway - both follow protocol
End result
Urban - tbd but you are suggesting nothing should be done
Joe- reputation ruined and PSU AD, Campus security head "forced" to plea to a minor offense and PSU president convicted of a minor offense [currently under appeal
Why would 5 stars from thousands of miles away give up Cali, Florida, Texas, Vegas winters for Columbus with all of their other choices? There are only some crime ridden parts of Columbus, so I guess there is that.
Not always the salesman. They have a pretty goodprodict to sell.
15 of the 19 recruits that Zach Smith signed in the last 3 classes were from about half way across the country or beyond away from Columbus. The 4 Ohio recruits he signed were mostly among the lowest ranked recruits he signed. We are talking elite prospects almost exclusively from no where near Columbus. Look at other recruiters and you do not find such a skewed amount of recruits from very far away who are almost all 5 and super high 4 stars while the very small number of natural recruiting area kids he signed are mostly low rated. Pretty tell tale sign that something very odd is occurring.The same reason they go to State College, or Tuscaloosa. You can’t be this dense.
So ALL that matters is that Meyer reported it?? Molding character and modeling behavior for young men,not so much??Why do you call me a clown? Have I been rude? We're just talking.
There is a court case next month regarding Smith's arrest. Perhaps the judge will rule that Smith is guilty of violating it. Perhaps he won't. Either way, that hearing, the sex toys and the ALLEGED pics are all IRRELEVANT to whether or not Urban followed reporting procedures in 2015. If he didn't, he's gone. We should find out today.
How many college coaches actually do that?So ALL that matters is that Meyer reported it?? Molding character and modeling behavior for young men,not so much??
Actually, the prudent move would have been to put a GPS tracker on the cock ring!So wifey doesn’t open them while snooping which she was likely doing given his untrustworthy behavior for about a decade. I would have put a gps tracker on that freak’s car
Does a GPS do a good job tracking movements in 1 foot increments (asking for a friend).Actually, the prudent move would have been to put a GPS tracker on the cock ring!
I think there is little doubt at this point...Smith has to be Urbie's bag man for him and OSU to put up with all this horseshit.
Imagine the fun to be had if Ohio State played Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Although perhaps their culture could use work as well.The band will creatively show you the various sex toys during their first halftime show in the Shoe!