If I took him out of context, my apologies, but after a very good half of football it seemed like a very odd thing to say. How bout stop running clifford so much when literally everything else is working offensively? Stop sliding so early? that is what the coach was focused on? And I don't remember many instances of clifford sliding way early in the rutgers game. Christ, clifford and trace have been hurt the last 4 or 5 years with this philosophy.
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If I took him out of context, my apologies, but after a very good half of football it seemed like a very odd thing to say. How bout stop running clifford so much when literally everything else is working offensively? Stop sliding so early? that is what the coach was focused on? And I don't remember many instances of clifford sliding way early in the rutgers game. Christ, clifford and trace have been hurt the last 4 or 5 years with this philosophy.
Well it does seem like the guys who have coached do disagree with the ones who haven’t, so who to believe? That’s a tough one.
Well he wasn’t always a head coach...he was a position coach and an OC prior to becoming a head coach and he did it well enough to land a head coaching job and then continue to move up. But I guess they always hire guys who are bad coordinators as head coaches (eye roll).
Heavily. Very good recruiter.
He wasn't a great OC and he coached Receivers in Green Bay. Receivers have been one of the more glaring problems during his tenure. So that this doesn't continue to get too far off track, I like franklin, I think he is a good HC and I want him here for years to come. I don't want him in the ear of a very accomplished OC next year. That is all, reasonable?
You can only express an opinion about a coach if you were a coach - I think Pee Wee football might count in his book but not sure - he is like Pavlov's Dog - crticize a coach and he answers the bell no matter how valid your criticism is.
I'm pretty excited about the new hire, but everything you said is painfully accurate.
Couple of those coaches left on their own but the repeated firing of assistants isn't what you would expect from an upper end HC. It does make you wonder if Franklin really does a good job assessing his coaching hire. Average life expectancy of an OC under Franklin is less than 2 years. Not really good especially considering the product we have been putting on the field. DC and OC are you two biggest hires and Franklin can't seem to get he offensive side right.
Me think this is a major factor. I didn’t see Ciarrocca as a guy who was going to attract an elite QB. I think better chance with Yurcich
And I recall reading KC didn't really do much recruiting at MN right? (You can't really judge this year with recruiting rule changes)
I mean Shoop did a great job when he was here and Gattis was highly regarded enough to get a job at Bama and then UM as OC. I don’t know how you characterize their time at PSU as incompetent. Even Hand left for a job at auburn, though I agree his lines weren’t great.
Also, has PSU really underperformed until this season? There are things that irk me about Franklin on game day, but he has run a highly successful program for years now.
Two questions:
1. Does he coach from the field or up in the booth?
2. When do we find out if we'll get a full spring to install the offense?
1. Does he coach from the field or up in the booth?
2. When do we find out if we'll get a full spring to install the offense?
I’m sure that wasn’t the only thing he was focused on....he was likely asked about how he thought Clifford was doing.
No because it doesn’t matter who the “accomplished” OC is, he won’t live up to expectations on this board.
You sound like someone who simply doesn't like Franklin. This was a gutsy move and a great move. Yet you will still take pot-shots from the peanut gallery. You sound like an asshole, honestly. No shortage of those here.
Not quite - no FAA flight tracker activity or John Gruden mentions
Considering two OC’s left to be head coaches, I’d say you would be hard pressed to be more wrong.
Folks - Coach Franklin can fire, hire, rearrange, change recruiting emphasis, focus on regional, national, world recruiting and NONE of it will guarantee a spot in the college football NC playoffs. So what will? This:
1. Beat Michigan
2. Beat Ohio State
3. Win the Big Ten
Period, end of argument. If all 3 of the 3 ( and only 3) criteria for on field success of Penn State football are not met in the same season, we will NEVER play for an NC again. That’s it - irrespective of firings, hirings, recruiting, White-outs, facilities, good-looking coeds, whatever. Succeed in meeting the 3 criteria in a season, and we’ve got a good shot. Fail in any one( or, typically for us 2), and we ain’t going to any playoff.
So - whatever machinations or combinations of factors it takes to achieve the needed result in the only 3 metrics that matter for PSU football, all in the same season, is the ticket. Now, Coach Franklin, go do it.
1. Beat Michigan
2. Beat Ohio State
3. Win the Big Ten
Period, end of argument. If all 3 of the 3 ( and only 3) criteria for on field success of Penn State football are not met in the same season, we will NEVER play for an NC again. That’s it - irrespective of firings, hirings, recruiting, White-outs, facilities, good-looking coeds, whatever. Succeed in meeting the 3 criteria in a season, and we’ve got a good shot. Fail in any one( or, typically for us 2), and we ain’t going to any playoff.
So - whatever machinations or combinations of factors it takes to achieve the needed result in the only 3 metrics that matter for PSU football, all in the same season, is the ticket. Now, Coach Franklin, go do it.
After Malzhan effectively fired him. Further, if was any good, Sark would have kept him but he told him to look elsewhere
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Nothing about the game of football is Maddon like. All opponents have HCs, OCs, DCs and talented players. As such, no one coach has the recipe for ice....Monday night a fan base (either Alabama or Ohio State) will be criticizing their coaching staff .....
And wonder if he was speaking to Michigan as well ? Or if Joe M is indeed going to the Wolverines this is a great “ counter strike”... really like this hire !!!
Good thing you posted that because I’m sure Franklin didn’t realize that until now. Thank God you’re here to guide him.
thanks for breaking it down for us....who would have thunk it? Did anyone tell James?
You’re right, two teams playing for a national championship and their fan bases will still be acting like the coaches forgot how to coach if something goes wrong.
Don't you think that is what Franklin is trying to do? I don't know what your point is.
Let's all predict how long it will take for the new OC to be criticized here.....and after how many minutes of the first game it will take until there are demands that he be replaced.
Are you including the spring game?
Could be a wardrobe mistake. Beltgate almost took down Stubblefield
Monday night. Penn State doesn't win the NC. He's been here less than a week, but I think it's fair.
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Another agnostic - embrace the 3, and only 3 success metrics for PSU football program’s on-field success. Understand that all football discussions are merely in the weeds, all leading to the 3 success metrics. If we do not accomplish all 3 in a season, no playoff, no NC. Argue about whatever you wish - but PSU football success is about those 3 metrics. Period. I guarantee you we will never see the playoffs without accomplishing all 3. And thus, they are all that matters with regard to on-field performance. Priorities, gentlemen. Those are PSU football’s (on-field). Franklin has yet to achieve them in a season, PSU has yet to make an appearance in the playoffs. It is axiomatic.
No I enjoy the amusement. Otherwise, what would I do for entertainment? New coaches are good....ex coaches and existing coaches are lousy.....unless they leave and go elsewhere, then we want them back. I get it.
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