So what is Clifford's injury?
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Ahhh, no. HIPPA prevents the release of private health information without the individual's consent. Sure HIPPA can be an issue but CJF is coy with the medical info to keep the other team guessing. Why should he tell our opponents when Cliff is going to be back??? Force them to develop 2 game plans.
I’m pretty sure that pro and college players sign waivers that allow their respective teams to disclose football related injuries without repercussions from HIPAA.
High impact football three weeks after a rib fracture? Those things that protect major organs? Football must be essential to life.
Guess it's possible Knight....
"However, Brees missed four games in 2020 with 11 broken ribs and a punctured lung. He broke the first eight during a game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a game in which he finished. Brees then actually played the following week against the San Francisco 49ers but broke three more on the other side during that game and then also punctured his lung. He ultimately finished that half against the 49ers but missed the second half and the next four games."
that would imply an employer can require an employee to give up HIPAA protections as a condition of employment. Not sure that would fly, at least with regards to exposing it to the public.
Clifford could say it’s ok to say something then Franklin as a coach could say don’t say anything .
Probably can play in 3 weeks, but I doubt it would be pain free in that span (especially if he gets hit). Cliff is a tough SOB if he pulls it off.
Yep, team rules might be don’t talk about it, but Clifford could give a doc or someone permission to talk about it.
OSU's O-Zone, I believe the Iowa Rivals site, and one of the Michigan boards (MGo Blog ?) All of it was guesswork based on the hit and how Clifford was acting on the sideline. I saw it first on the O-Zone. A couple also mentioned a collarbone separation but it was ruled out quickly
We need QB depth like O$U. I would take 1/2 of that. O$U has four (4) QBs on their roster - all of which are probably better than Cliff (and I am a Cliff fan). O$U can probably beat anyone in the country with their 3rd string. Can you imagine if Velliuex would have had to play?
How do the fighting acorns do it Bucknut72? How do they keep such a loaded QB room happy?
That was a HUGE loss - especially on the other B1G sites. I would imagine that several boards had posters speculating - I just listed the ones I viewed yesterday that thought it was his ribs. Just part of college message boards. Can't remember the last time I saw that big of drop off when a backup QB replaced the starter. Heck, considering what happened, Clifford might be the MVP (to his team) of the B1G
Bucknut72 ?
They won't - expect a transfer or two after this year. But the problem is that many of the top HS QBs want to play for Lincoln Riley, Ryan Day, Alabama and Georgia. Those explosive offenses are really inviting to the top HS QBs in the country.The QB talent that Lincoln Riley puts together - year after year is unreal. We're talking Heisman winners and yesterday was mind-boggling when their backup came in and benched Rattler - the preseason Heisman favorite
Not a HIPAA violation. Yes, that's HIPAA, not HIPPA.
When a baseball pitcher needs Tommy John surgery, or a running back needs his ACL repaired, it's perfectly fine to release that information. What you can't do is release his name, address, social security number, entire medical history, prescriptions that he's taking, and mother's maiden name, more or less.
Agree with you Bucknut72…but only Bama and O$U put together a complete team. Oklahoma’s is a non-starter.Bucknut72 ?
The QB talent that Lincoln Riley puts together - year after year is unreal. We're talking Heisman winners and yesterday was mind-boggling when their backup came in and benched Rattler - the preseason Heisman favorite
What is the insight on your Acorns having four 4/5 star QBs on tbe roster. Why no portal transfer out? Only 1/2 can play - not 4. Is the $ that good (I guess they are already paying the high school kid 7 figures)….I guess that would convince me to stay. Heck, he could retire from football now and never take a snap.
Shame on us for not having a ready backup.
He is doing quite well in Kentucky.
I think people forget that Michael Johnson also transferred. So it is very possible that Roberson was QB4 in that absence of the transfer portal. How do you think Iowa would have done playing 2.5 quarters with their QB4?
There will be transfers out - just a matter of time. Isn't McCord from PA ? Maybe a possible PSU portal transfer in after this year ? OSU's been on TV a few times this year and that Jack Miller can also spin the ball. Miller is the the most likely portal transfer at this point. I believe he's from the West Coast.
To be quite honest, that much publicized no. 1 Ewers from Texas might not see the field for awhile. Maybe another portal candidate ?
Terrible take again Bear but yeah leave it up. It only validates what we already know.
Aren’t at least two of them freshmen? So they come in thinking they’re going to be the big, swinging dick and find out they’re going to be #3 or #4 on the depth chart….they’ll transfer, they just haven’t done it yet.
2 are true freshmen, 2 are redshirt freshmen. That's the problem for a couple of them - they'll all be around for awhile if they choose to stay. Question; did Franklin actively recruit McCord (Pa.) hard in his senior year ?
I believe we recruited McCord. We have a terrible track record at St. Joseph’s Prep…..
This thread is now focusing on help from the transfer portal. Have any of you seen Drew Allar from Medina Ohio play? 6' 5" 220# and really lighting it up. Strong and accurate arm. I know he will be fresh out of H.S. but he is graduating early and enrolling at PSU this winter. I watched him against powerhouse Mentor where he ran for 1 td and threw for 4 td's. He is the real deal
I watched him….he’s the real deal. And guys like that, with all the football they’ve played, can play as freshmen and be productive. The days of sitting for three years before you’re ready are over.
I think it's more about establishing depth at QB which - we saw yesterday - is lacking. Allar could end up being a very good CF QB but - like you mentioned - is just a HS senior at this point.
Was that the play where he got drilled pretty hard in the ribs right at the sideline? Or a different play? I remember thinking "what a tough dude" when he got drilled and jogged right back to the huddle like nothing happened.
Allar - strong arm . Needs quite a bit of improvement on footwork.
This seems like the most likely explanation to me. Previous rib problem that was reaggravated. Definitely not seeing how it could have happened on that play.
Does anyone know if HIPAA even applies to college football? The students are not employees.
If my buddy mentions that he's got broken ribs I can tell anyone I'd like to tell about it. If my employee mentions that he's got broken ribs I have to STFU.
For the sake of HIPAA are student athletes "employees"?
OK, I concede that we are actually watching some sort of team gladiator fight. Glad I chose golf instead of football.
Franklin might have orders to keep your mouth shut for players but they have the legal right to talk about it. It’s probably his rule. The doc couldn’t tell anyone without the players consent, however the coaches will have the right to know.
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