Pat Downey

[pish69]

https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6219726-wall-talks/videos?playing=6344054&limit=60

Nice interview on FloPro. I understand many can't stand the kid, I'm a sucker for giving people 2nd and 3rd chances. I thought Bader did a good job and Downey seemed genuine in his answers. He knows he made mistakes, he owns up to them in retrospect.

Two very interesting tidbits I didn't know..

1. Out of HS he was recruited by PSU and that was his first choice (then he got into some trouble and that went out window)
2. It was BRANDS that wouldn't let him wrestle last year. I always thought Iowa State wouldn't give the final signoff after he completed everything. As Downey explains it, he worked his butt off, practiced, was doing great, but when the time came, Brands sat him and his father down and basically told him he not living up to his (Brands) standards when it comes to off the mat stuff and is no longer part of the team. Brands basically told him you need to be a part of the "wolfpack" on and off the mat and that was that. Kudos to Brands for sticking to his beliefs and kudos to Downey for accepting it. He never made a stink of it, knew Brands was right and respected him.

 

[James P. Whitters III]

2/nd,3/rd,4/th........This guy has had hundreds of chances and remains a piece of crap. Kevin Jackson kept giving him chances on an almost daily basis.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

These PD threads are like herpes!!

 

[WildTurk]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

 

[horraybeer]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

Who cares.

 

[johnstownsteel]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

If I give an answer that isn't acceptable, will Brands send his boy to my house to throw a Kimura down on me?

 

[PSUer1989]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

Sounds smart, but not as smart as saying no thanks at the start.

 

[danoftw]

Wouldn't let him in the wolfpack.

 

[WildTurk]

Who cares.

The BWI regulars cared immensely a year ago. Goes to show the difference a year makes!

If I give an answer that isn't acceptable, will Brands send his boy to my house to throw a Kimura down on me?

I have never seen Brands send out a boy to throw a Kimura.. Have you?

 

[johnstownsteel]

The BWI regulars cared immensely a year ago. Goes to show the difference a year makes!
I have never seen Brands send out a boy to throw a Kimura.. Have you?

No but he has no problems bringing one in to wrestle for him.

Now what were you saying about Brands/Downey again?

 

[johnstownsteel]

Sounds smart, but not as smart as saying no thanks at the start.

You mean like PSU did by telling him "no thanks"? You mean like that?

 

[WildTurk]

No but he has no problems bringing one in to wrestle for him.

Now what were you saying about Brands/Downey again?

Did you watch the Bader/Downey interview on Flo?

 

[El-Jefe]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

Last year to the week is when it happened, and Downey's story then was that the NCAA disapproved his waiver to wrestle at a 3rd D1 school.

https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/1077291001

Just like everything else with Downey, his story changes depending on when and to whom he tells it.

So I have no thoughts on "Brands' decision" because I have no credible evidence that he in fact made that choice.

 

[Gray52]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

I think it shows lack of character on Brands’ part. He knew damn well what PD3’s issues were, yet he let him transfer in anyway, then stuck it to him. That’s a horrible way to handle a situation when you know the student only had one year of eligibility remaining. If you’re not sure about a kid, tell him upfront “no thanks”. Typical Brands, imo. Meathead extraordinaire.
“Throw Me!”

 

[johnstownsteel]

Did you watch the Bader/Downey interview on Flo?

You seem confused. I'll make it easy for you. The interview hasn't changed my perception of Brands one way or another. Despite you wondering how PSU fans feel about Brands' display of nobility..

 

[johnstownsteel]

Last year to the week is when it happened, and Downey's story then was that the NCAA disapproved his waiver to wrestle at a 3rd D1 school.

https://amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/1077291001

Just like everything else with Downey, his story changes depending on when and to whom he tells it.

So I have no thoughts on "Brands' decision" because I have no credible evidence that he in fact made that choice.

exactly!

Now THROW ME!

 

[jrod65]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

Turk,

You need to learn how to appreciate the small victories. A BWI poster praises Brands. That was enough for me to be happy. Now look where this thread is headed....

 

[johnstownsteel]

Turk,

You need to learn how to appreciate the small victories. A BWI poster praises Brands. That was enough for me to be happy. Now look where this thread is headed....

He does here what I do over on HR. The only difference is the members here dont piss, moan, bellyache and cry like a baby to the mods to ban him.

 

[AldenT]

He does here what I do over on HR. The only difference is the members here dont piss, moan, bellyache and cry like a baby to the mods to ban him.

He seems to have jumped the shark here sometime ago. Too bad.

 

[dbldoofus]

He does here what I do over on HR. The only difference is the members here dont piss, moan, bellyache and cry like a baby to the mods to ban him.

Tom, Please ban Turk! (jk).

 

[Ja1339]

I think it shows lack of character on Brands’ part. He knew damn well what PD3’s issues were, yet he let him transfer in anyway, then stuck it to him. That’s a horrible way to handle a situation when you know the student only had one year of eligibility remaining. If you’re not sure about a kid, tell him upfront “no thanks”. Typical Brands, imo. Meathead extraordinaire.
“Throw Me!”

Just to be clear, it was Terry who issued the legendary 'throw me' line.

 

[danoftw]

Like someone said about the Desanto suspension thread, this probably came from higher up and Brands had to tell him. Easier to tell him he's not allowed in the wolfduckpack than to say I don't have the pull and my bosses said, "No". If it's even true.

 

[nerfstate]

Why does Brands want all these guys to go to NC State?

 

[Roar More]

Just to be clear, it was Terry who issued the legendary 'throw me' line.

What difference does it make? They all look alike.

 

[Gray52]

Just to be clear, it was Terry who issued the legendary 'throw me' line.

TnT are the co-faces of the franchise. It’s just how it is.

 

[vhsalum]

He failed a drug test. Nothing to see here.

 

[dunkej01]

The BWI regulars cared immensely a year ago. Goes to show the difference a year makes!
I have never seen Brands send out a boy to throw a Kimura.. Have you?

Are you dense....nah you just like being a dainty intranet firefighter....

Mark it down....Most of the flack TnT get on BWI is because of the BS and hypocritical nature of your homeboys.

Its the BS over there that gets called out and Brands catches the shrapnel.

step up and admit it

 

[WildTurk]

Pretty much what I expected

 

[diggerpup]

The most productive thing PD3 has done the last two years is give Nickal his “Noodle Arms” nickname.

 

[Dogwelder]

BWI thoughts on Tom Brands making the decision to never let Pat Downey wear the black and gold?

 

[AldenT]

Pretty much what I expected

Another 4th place finish at nationals?

 

[nitlion6]

Another 4th place finish at nationals?

They peaked last year with a solid third.

 

[El-Jefe]

They peaked last year with a solid third.

Brands obviously put principles ahead of championships -- because he probably gets the title with Downey pinning his way thru 184, 197, and HWT.

 

[WildTurk]

Too Easy

 

[dunkej01]

Too Easy

especially when your audience is an army of 1

 

[WildTurk]

I'm curious as to how many of you actually watched the interview..

 

[WildTurk]

especially when your audience is an army of 1

I'm a leader, not a follower.

 

[RoarLions1]

I'm a leader, not a follower.

You really should use the "winkie face" when you're being sarcastic .

Btw...any chance you'll be at B1G's? Tough, I know, with a baby.

 

[WildTurk]

You really should use the "winkie face" when you're being sarcastic .

Btw...any chance you'll be at B1G's? Tough, I know, with a baby.

I wish I could go! We are pretty grounded this year. The baby and saving for a wedding are holding us back a bit

 

[dunkej01]

I'm a leader, not a follower.

leader of what? You went from a good poster a year or so ago (leader) and now you post like a petulant child (follower) who craves attention and having your post heard/responded too.

Its sad to have watched this train wreck. Maybe you need a one match suspension?

#caring