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Not to change subject but Ben also said PSU is going to love the Mirasolas.
You get a like for using Tognetti in a sentence without using swear words.
We really are an insensitive bunch here. The poor man needs some new socks and just lost out on his chance for the gold. We should really kill two birds with one stone and get a fundraiser going to get JB a dump truck load of these socks.
Yes and the reason also has nothing to do with wrestling. It is simply because PSU is dominant. Any other explanation is BS.
Met the family and the boys at the PSU/Illinois football game. They came to our tailgate and we enjoyed having them. Great folks!
Speak of the devil, just got to Basch and the people who like Penn State because they’re good are Fairweather Fans now.
Never ends with these guys.
Penn State fans roaring for MM and booing Burroughs uncalled for.
Clearly these folks are WAY WAY too close to the subjects. And again I get it, it’s a small circle, but now booing people is offensive.
I was thinking this morning. You know a great way Burroughs could have responded to the fan's comment about his career being over? Weigh in for day 2 and continue to wrestle the tournament out...
He would have also had an opportunity to wrestle Mesenbrink again and perhaps the match goes differently. Perhaps he doesn't retaliate to chippiness, returns to center quicker, acknowledges the crowd to thank them for their years of support, and receives a standing ovation in return. We'll never know.
Edit: Apparently Burroughs would not have wrestled Mesenbrink again, since the match would have been an unnecessary true second match. But, the point about weighing in to demonstrate that the heckler was wrong about his career being over still stands.
He would have also had an opportunity to wrestle Mesenbrink again and perhaps the match goes differently. Perhaps he doesn't retaliate to chippiness, returns to center quicker, acknowledges the crowd to thank them for their years of support, and receives a standing ovation in return. We'll never know.
Edit: Apparently Burroughs would not have wrestled Mesenbrink again, since the match would have been an unnecessary true second match. But, the point about weighing in to demonstrate that the heckler was wrong about his career being over still stands.
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Exactly… same people who are so upset about Burroughs getting booed continue to give a clown like PD3 a platformSome gatekeepers can't see thru Downey, at least not publicly.
Meanwhile, let's all have a laugh about an out-of-control heckler on Monday:
Yankees manager Aaron Boone ejected after fan mouths off to home plate umpire
You don't see an ejection like this every day.sports.yahoo.com
I have to give JB credit for not doing the splits and double birds after the match.
I heard PD3 left his shoes on the bar Friday night, so his career should be over now.
i'm very confused about this 74kg bracket. JB lost in the finals of the challenge tournament and beat the guy who finished 3rd (MM), so why is there a true 2nd match at all?
I think the issue is that Burroughs did not weigh in for Day 2 and therefore withdrew from the event.
i guess that makes sense. i see at 97kg, it shows moore over jackson in the true 2nd match as a no contest, i assume because moore beat jackson in the quarters. does that mean moore made weight on day 2 and just didn't wrestle? i suppose he would have needed to be ready in case schultz won that 3rd place match on saturday morning, so i think it makes that moore would have needed to make weight.
but i guess my conclusion is that JB would not have wrestled MM again either way.
but i guess my conclusion is that JB would not have wrestled MM again either way.
Just an excuse to throw shade at PSU wrestling. JB was booed heartily for poor sportsmanship at the 2023 WTT during, after and before his matches with Marstellar because of JB's cynical challenge in their first match and you didn't read anything about it. As others have said, much ado about nothing.
The real problem on Friday was Manning. The supposed adult in the room behaved like a petulant child and threw gasoline on the fire instead of trying to defuse the situation.
I'm not condoning any bad behavior by (assumed) PSU fans, but come on.
A heel was booed by an opposing fanbase, wow I’ve never seen that before.
The Iowa fans constantly bringing this up is hilarious. Constantly comparing this to Iowa’s racial and throwing beer instances. Yea, totally the same.
The Iowa fans constantly bringing this up is hilarious. Constantly comparing this to Iowa’s racial and throwing beer instances. Yea, totally the same.
It's stupid tribalism to make certain folk feel better. Yeah, they win all the time, but they're not good people like we are. Or something stupid like that.
I think a lot of JB's attitude at the event was driven by the knowledge that he is on the downhill side of his performance curve. Nothing to really be ashamed of - it happens to everyone. Ten years ago, he was used to going out and dominating his weight class at every competition he entered. Now, the younger guys have caught up and he's losing his edge. There's nothing wrong with continuing to compete, but maybe he needs to adjust his expectations accordingly. Going forward, a better goal might be to do the best with what he still has left and be able to walk away satisfied with what he is still able to accomplish. With guys like Dake and Nolf standing in his way, expecting to win every event is just going to lead to disappointment and frustration.
Would Burroughs have wrestled again though?
Burroughs made the finals of the challenge tournament. He had already beaten the wrestler that took 3rd in the challenge tournament. There typically wouldn’t be a rematch; true 2nd in the challenge tournament was established by them already wrestling.
Somebody described this as a great Seinfeld episode where George is the heckler who got the manager tossed lol.Some gatekeepers can't see thru Downey, at least not publicly.
Meanwhile, let's all have a laugh about an out-of-control heckler on Monday:
Yankees manager Aaron Boone ejected after fan mouths off to home plate umpire
You don't see an ejection like this every day.
burroughs would not have wrestled mesenbrink again, but he needed to weigh in just in case jacques, monday, or berger (and maybe lockett/marinelli but i don't remember when those guys were eliminated) took third, since he did not beat those guys.
I agree with El, my vocal displeasure during the MM vs JB match was as much of a displeasure to the ref as to JB and his socks. JB talked about it during NCAAs broadcast when Cormier brought it up.
I also think MM, with the exception of the hard club early on was just wrestling hard and to be expected. He is coming at you, buckle up.
As to the crowd/fans, I don't blame any inappropriate action on alcohol, I blame it on being forced to watch match after match of Greco.
Rules are enacted due to actions that ruling bodies no longer want to see occur. In folk we have the danger rule due the over use of the funk to stop takedowns. The hands to the face rule for obvious reasons. Can JB cause socks to be banned?
I also think MM, with the exception of the hard club early on was just wrestling hard and to be expected. He is coming at you, buckle up.
As to the crowd/fans, I don't blame any inappropriate action on alcohol, I blame it on being forced to watch match after match of Greco.
Rules are enacted due to actions that ruling bodies no longer want to see occur. In folk we have the danger rule due the over use of the funk to stop takedowns. The hands to the face rule for obvious reasons. Can JB cause socks to be banned?
Everybody here seems sold on Connor.
There are a few here who think they know more than Cael Sanderson about Cole's ability to ever be a good HWT.
That's mostly a size thing since he's currently pretty severely underweight for a top heavy, but I'm not really worried about that.
Well, we have a LOT of positive to talk about: 4 Olympians including RBY, with a world champ trying to become the 5th; great efforts by our guys who didn't win it; and a bunch of our recruits about to storm their age group brackets.
And yet here we are fixated on the negative.
Nobody doubts he needs to add size.
Some are claiming he never will. I know. At sone point you'd think Cael would've earned the benefit of the doubt.
No this has always been his attitude , even in high school he was dick and was borderline with his clubs and headbutts and he’s been a sore loser his whole career, then after he won the Olympics and started taking pictures on thrones wearing crowns his narcissism took over. He truely believes everyone should cheer, bow down and respect him…you can see the tweet he put out after trials in 15 where he said everyone who rooted against him should be ashamed on themselves because of what he’s accomplished ….funny thing to add all these clowns talking about “disrespecting a legend” were all laughing and sharing the video of Ragusin calling John smith a “whiney F***ing Bi*ch” at ncaas .. where is willies rant about that ? Why isn’t he calling out all 14 Michigan wrestling fans for sharing and promoting that? And that’s actual an athlete whose still competing now not just some random unconnected fan
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