Was eyeballing this at the liquor store todayGot a bottle of the 8-year as a gift, and it was quite good. I understand the 12-year is hard to come by.
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Was eyeballing this at the liquor store todayGot a bottle of the 8-year as a gift, and it was quite good. I understand the 12-year is hard to come by.
Here ya go: Amy SmartI'm familiar with the spirit. Who's the actress?
you're right! its a blend!! Which is not bourbon! (the final product is not a bourbon)LOL... case closed!
Avion 44....yes it’s worth it. You only live oncePosted this as a stand alone post and someone suggested I post it here...
I've been wanting to try an extra anejo tequilla since they first hit the market a little while back, but am reluctant to pony up $150 or so as a gamble, without some insight.
Any recommendations? Worth it or not?
Are you in Ohio? I really like the 107 but it’s never available in PA.I'll have to look for this. I've been on a Weller's run for a few months now. Green label and Antique. It's been readily available every Friday at my local Kroger for a while, so I've taken advantage.
Are you in Ohio? I really like the 107 but it’s never available in PA.
I’d take the green label too if it was handy. I understand the 107 now has an MSRP of $50 up from $25 or so. This stuff was meant to be everyday bourdon with a plastic cap. Maybe it will be reasonable and accessible again someday.Yes, central Ohio. The Antique is probably only there once every couple months, but green label is every week.
sluggo72 said:you're right!
sluggo72 said:its Bourbon
rudedude said:
rry. The resulting spirit can no longer be solely designated as “bourbon” due to this secondary aging; common terms one might see on labels include “bourbon finished in,” “cask finished,” or “double-wood finished.”I agree! It doesn’t stop being bourbon because it was finished in another barrel. Just like it doesn’t stop being bourbon when it’s poured over ice. “Bourbon finished in xxxx barrels” or “bourbon on the rocks” are both still bourbon.
Thank you! If you follow those rules it is bourbon, there is no restriction on finishing in other barrels.
rry. The resulting spirit can no longer be solely designated as “bourbon” due to this secondary aging; common terms one might see on labels include “bourbon finished in,” “cask finished,” or “double-wood finished.”
Note the word ‘solely’ and the use of modifiers
https://gardenandgun.com/articles/bourbon-cask-finished/
Jack daniels is not bourbon. It is flavored with vanilla.Lol, and I thought the rule was simply that it had to be made in Bourbon County, Kentucky.
What about Jack Daniels’? Is it bourbon?
I rarely drink anything but beer now but I poured a couple glasses of Woodford Reserve the other night to toast Enzo’s memory.
Jack daniels is not bourbon. It is flavored with vanilla.
sluggo72 said:rry. The resulting spirit can no longer be solely designated as “bourbon” due to this secondary aging; common terms one might see on labels include “bourbon finished in,” “cask finished,” or “double-wood finished.”
Note the word ‘solely’ and the use of modifiers
https://gardenandgun.com/articles/bourbon-cask-finished/
I don’t believe standard Jack has vanilla additives. The additional charcoal filtering they do does remove tannins and most likely highlights or adds to the sweet and vanilla flavors present.
Please cite your evidence then. There is no support to your statement that Jack adds artificial vanilla flavoring to their whiskey. In fact your statements on this thread indicate that you have little knowledge of whiskey.Yea of little faith and knowledge.
After reading this I stopped by my local ABC store to see if they had any in stock. The first one I tried didn't have any but the second had three bottles, so I picked up two. I'll report back after I try it this weekend.Looking for something new to try I overheard a salesman at my local VA ABC store chatting with a customer and recommending a new bourbon called 'Legent'. It was at a very reasonable price point ($40.00), so I was curious about the fuss. Turns out the fuss is the bourbon is not only partially aged in wine and sherry casks, but it's the brainchild of Jim Beam Master Distiller Fred Noe (7th Generation) and Suntory Master Blender Shinji Fukuyo (only the fourth person in Suntory history - since 1899 - to earn the title of Master Blender). It's a delight to sip or use for any bourbon cocktail (thinking Manhattan and Old Fashioned here....). The salesman also said it doesn't stay in stock for very long, so he thinks the price will start to rise.
Just a random link to add to this thread.https://vinepair.com/articles/japan-created-american-bourbon-market/Looking for something new to try I overheard a salesman at my local VA ABC store chatting with a customer and recommending a new bourbon called 'Legent'. It was at a very reasonable price point ($40.00), so I was curious about the fuss. Turns out the fuss is the bourbon is not only partially aged in wine and sherry casks, but it's the brainchild of Jim Beam Master Distiller Fred Noe (7th Generation) and Suntory Master Blender Shinji Fukuyo (only the fourth person in Suntory history - since 1899 - to earn the title of Master Blender). It's a delight to sip or use for any bourbon cocktail (thinking Manhattan and Old Fashioned here....). The salesman also said it doesn't stay in stock for very long, so he thinks the price will start to rise.
Please cite your evidence then. There is no support to your statement that Jack adds artificial vanilla flavoring to their whiskey. In fact your statements on this thread indicate that you have little knowledge of whiskey.
This is right. I’m late to the game but I’ve been loving breckenridge’s port cask finish whiskey, which is clear it starts with their bourbon and ends as whiskey (at least in technical category). But the issue here is t what it’s called, it’s how it’s categorized. I believe Bourbon with whatever finish can be described as what it is. The disclosure re finish seems like marketing (and is) but it’s also legally significant.you're right! its a blend!! Which is not bourbon! (the final product is not a bourbon)
I have enough trouble keeping up with how human beings currently "identify" themselves --- and now bourbon tooBourbon does not need to be made in Kentucky.
Bourbon can be made anywhere in the US
Must have a mashbill of at least 51% corn
Must be aged in new oak barrels and there are restrictions in place on the alcohol content off the still, into the barrel and into the bottle. It must be aged for 2 years years to be labeled straight bourbon.
Jack meets the requirements to be labeled a bourbon, although they choose not to market the product in this manner. While now it’s own style “Tennessee Whiskey” is mainly a marketing concept. Jack would be a bourbon if they wish to have it verified as such. However, since the company does not identify its product as a bourbon it is technically not.
This is right. I’m late to the game but I’ve been loving breckenridge’s port cask finish whiskey, which is clear it starts with their bourbon and ends as whiskey (at least in technical category). But the issue here is t what it’s called, it’s how it’s categorized. I believe Bourbon with whatever finish can be described as what it is. The disclosure re finish seems like marketing (and is) but it’s also legally significant.
The regs, or what folks consider the regs, are sometimes too loosely followed, enforced, interpreted, etc. And for those very interested, the specifics can be fun. For most others, seems more like listening to sports commentators during instant replay review.
Just a random link to add to this thread.https://vinepair.com/articles/japan-created-american-bourbon-market/
Maybe. Certainly didn’t hurt.I think Mad Men created the contemporary American bourbon market, though the article is interesting.
Maybe. Certainly didn’t hurt.
Bourbon whiskey is also a very American thing and it’s turn en Vogue was sure to come. Heck, gin, grappa, tequila, craft beer.... kaboom!
Not sure if it’s being mentioned much but going back to Jack Daniel’s, anybody’s notice all the premium stuff they’ve been putting out? I bought up a s-ton of it, from small batch to barrel proof to (yes, this was a STUPID PURCHASE) their Sinatra select (or whatever.). The stuff is great and the bottles are super-cool but its not nearly as interesting to real bourbon drinkers as most of the bourbons we’ve discussed. So I’d describe the pricing as “inflated.”
As an aside, I think it’s funny that two of my favorite normal drinkers aren’t even from KY. One is Kings County (Brooklyn) and the other is the Burning Chair by savage and cooke (CA). If anyone hasn’t tried either, I’d encourage it.
Don and crew were drinking Canadian Club (typically) on the show. A blended and light bodied whiskey that was highly appropriate for men of the era to be drinking as it was all the rage at the time.I updated my post with the boom in bourbon/whiskey sales nearly paralleling Mad Men's run. Once Don ordered an Old Fashioned everyone wanted one. Like Miles in 'Sideways' with Pinot Noir.
I had the JD Sinatra edition in a Manhattan on a Disney Cruise - I thought it was very good.
Ah yes, my similarly situated PSU-grad and father to young daughter who likes being spoiled at the Bippity Boppity Boutique! I nearly forgot about that.I updated my post with the boom in bourbon/whiskey sales nearly paralleling Mad Men's run. Once Don ordered an Old Fashioned everyone wanted one. Like Miles in 'Sideways' with Pinot Noir.
I had the JD Sinatra edition in a Manhattan on a Disney Cruise - I thought it was very good.
Don and crew were drinking Canadian Club (typically) on the show. A blended and light bodied whiskey that was highly appropriate for men of the era to be drinking as it was all the rage at the time.
Picked up a bottle of the Legent today. Just sat down with a glass. Not really a fan ... oh well. Worth the try but i just don’t love bourbon
Thanks for sharing; it's at a price point where if you don't like it, you aren't kicking yourself over it. At worst, you have a decent base for mixing. What do you typically like?