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The "NCAA threatening the Death Penalty should discussions leak" - while quite possibly true - is about as impactful as Moldavia threatening the old Soviet Union with nuclear annihilation
Thank goodness we had strong leadership at PSU
No mention of NCAA or Big 12 in that article. I thought I read somewhere that Baylor informed the NCAA.
In the video posted by Wendy, Peetz harkens back to her undergrad days and recalls how important football was to the university and bringing people together.
Peetz…Peetz…Ah, yes…Karen Peetz! Now there’s a name from the past. I had forgotten all about her…in about 2014, IIRC.
To anyone who took the time to read it, it was clear that the Freeh Report was a dishonest enterprise from the get-go. Many of us looked deeper, but really…wasn’t “We didn’t talk to anybody who knew anything…but we promise... the findings contained in this report represent a fair, objective and comprehensive analysis of facts” pretty much all we needed to know? (For those who enjoy good comedy, this passage was in the “Independence of the Investigation” section.) And Peetz’s paw prints are all over this flaming sack of coverup, like an off-duty FBI agent on a lonely road in Vermont:
“‘It is sufficient to say that the investigation concluded that certain people at the university who were in a position to protect children or confront the predator failed to do so,’ Ms. Peetz said at the [trustees’] meeting. ‘What the report also concluded was that the Board of Trustees failed to provide proper oversight of the university.’” (Translation: “We knew….nussssing!”) “At the same time, [Peetz] said the board wouldn’t do a detailed analysis of Freeh’s scathing report, which concluded that [Paterno] and three other school officials concealed child molestation allegations against [Sandusky]. (cbsnews.com, 9/14/12)
At the September 2012 board meeting, Penn State supporter Patty Kirschner asked why the board is moving ahead with recommendations from former FBI Director Louis Freeh’s report without determining its validity and asked if the board would consider any independent reviews of that report. “When Kirschner continued to push for an outside review of the Freeh Report’s validity, [Peetz] cut her off by telling her her time was up. Audience members laughed and offered sarcastic applause.” (pennlive.com, updated 9/15/12)
“In a press conference following the Nov. 16th BoT meeting, Karen said the board would look into the existence of the Freeh contract documents. She said she did not have much information in this area because she ‘wasn’t directly responsible for hiring him. It was not something the board signed on.’” (notpsu.blogspot.com, 11/30/12) Peetz, of course, was a (napping, presumably) member of the Task Force that hired Freeh.
It's not like she had an agenda or anything:
“John Surma was on the BNYM Board of Directors until he abruptly resigned in April 2012. As Karen is an Executive, she reported to that same Board on which Surma once sat.” (notpsu.blogspot.com, 11/30/12)
And my personal favorite:
Pete Curkendall, former Penn State defensive tackle, posted this on Facebook: “Karen Peetz (sic) son (in front of her and her husband) told a former teammate of mine that JoePa had to be involved with the disappearance of DA Gricar. She and her cronies are not only delusional but have lived off the integrity of others for years. They are nothing more than parasites. This was stated right before they took the statue down.” (facebook.com, 10/18/13)
McAndrew Board rock star Frank Sheeran recently reminded us (Peetz being that distant memory and all), that in 2013, the Pearled One was the driving force behind the near-miss hiring of “Double-Dipping David” Smith to wallow in the pre-existing stench of the President’s office. Thank goodness, huh? Meet Eric Barron! (Doctor: “Good news: You don’t have cancer. Bad news; You've got malaria.”) As Stink might say: "Remember, you can't say 'fiduciary' without....."
So, she’s gone. But no….not quite forgotten, I’m afraid. Please have a seat back at the table, Ms. Peetz. Anthony Lubrano noted an hour or so ago that “Peetz believed PSU had a culture problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.” I suggest that PSU has had a Peetz problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.
Bet she was a dirty player, too.
SR/BHF
To anyone who took the time to read it, it was clear that the Freeh Report was a dishonest enterprise from the get-go. Many of us looked deeper, but really…wasn’t “We didn’t talk to anybody who knew anything…but we promise... the findings contained in this report represent a fair, objective and comprehensive analysis of facts” pretty much all we needed to know? (For those who enjoy good comedy, this passage was in the “Independence of the Investigation” section.) And Peetz’s paw prints are all over this flaming sack of coverup, like an off-duty FBI agent on a lonely road in Vermont:
“‘It is sufficient to say that the investigation concluded that certain people at the university who were in a position to protect children or confront the predator failed to do so,’ Ms. Peetz said at the [trustees’] meeting. ‘What the report also concluded was that the Board of Trustees failed to provide proper oversight of the university.’” (Translation: “We knew….nussssing!”) “At the same time, [Peetz] said the board wouldn’t do a detailed analysis of Freeh’s scathing report, which concluded that [Paterno] and three other school officials concealed child molestation allegations against [Sandusky]. (cbsnews.com, 9/14/12)
At the September 2012 board meeting, Penn State supporter Patty Kirschner asked why the board is moving ahead with recommendations from former FBI Director Louis Freeh’s report without determining its validity and asked if the board would consider any independent reviews of that report. “When Kirschner continued to push for an outside review of the Freeh Report’s validity, [Peetz] cut her off by telling her her time was up. Audience members laughed and offered sarcastic applause.” (pennlive.com, updated 9/15/12)
“In a press conference following the Nov. 16th BoT meeting, Karen said the board would look into the existence of the Freeh contract documents. She said she did not have much information in this area because she ‘wasn’t directly responsible for hiring him. It was not something the board signed on.’” (notpsu.blogspot.com, 11/30/12) Peetz, of course, was a (napping, presumably) member of the Task Force that hired Freeh.
It's not like she had an agenda or anything:
“John Surma was on the BNYM Board of Directors until he abruptly resigned in April 2012. As Karen is an Executive, she reported to that same Board on which Surma once sat.” (notpsu.blogspot.com, 11/30/12)
And my personal favorite:
Pete Curkendall, former Penn State defensive tackle, posted this on Facebook: “Karen Peetz (sic) son (in front of her and her husband) told a former teammate of mine that JoePa had to be involved with the disappearance of DA Gricar. She and her cronies are not only delusional but have lived off the integrity of others for years. They are nothing more than parasites. This was stated right before they took the statue down.” (facebook.com, 10/18/13)
McAndrew Board rock star Frank Sheeran recently reminded us (Peetz being that distant memory and all), that in 2013, the Pearled One was the driving force behind the near-miss hiring of “Double-Dipping David” Smith to wallow in the pre-existing stench of the President’s office. Thank goodness, huh? Meet Eric Barron! (Doctor: “Good news: You don’t have cancer. Bad news; You've got malaria.”) As Stink might say: "Remember, you can't say 'fiduciary' without....."
So, she’s gone. But no….not quite forgotten, I’m afraid. Please have a seat back at the table, Ms. Peetz. Anthony Lubrano noted an hour or so ago that “Peetz believed PSU had a culture problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.” I suggest that PSU has had a Peetz problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.
Bet she was a dirty player, too.
SR/BHF
The consent decree was merely the culmination of the bot's strategy. I dare say its almost irrelevant compared to the damage the entire bot had been doing, the final product of which was the freeh debacle. Without all the groundwork the other parties had done, the consent decree never happens. Who sent Lanny Davis to a funeral to speak ill of the dead? Who was telling Freeh what to attack? Who was telling Freeh to do the NCAA's bidding? Who was boasting about Freeh's work? Who was throwing money around without proper vetting procedures? Etc. Etc. I've never seen such malicious and idiotic tactics by people supposedly out to protect the university. Just because a few individuals didn't officially help craft the consent decree doesn't mean they did not have a substantial role in it. I might add they didn't just stop after the consent decree, they continued to attack the university, continued to do the NCAA's dirty work, and convinced all of you to vote for a second consent decree with Corman when total victory was in sight. Sigh, any root cause analysis would show the original consent decree was relatively minor in the grand scheme of things, and that more than just a select few were responsible for it. I don't mean to rant at your info, even though I just did, but I think everyone responsible for this debacle deserves to have their role(s) highlighted.
Once all of your "mates" have deserted you - are you still the CIRCLE-Jerk King? Or, just the DOT-Jerk King?
I guess karen doesn't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Who rented the plane?
Who paid for the shredder?
Nice synopsis. Those responsible deserve FAR more than having their roles highlighted but, it is a good start!
Yeah, Who rented that ****ing airplane?
Who came up with the " just move on strategy"?
Which of them publicly stood in judgement of others with their public remarks?
Which ones actually tried to sound convincing about their care and regard for innocent children?
Shameless shameless shameless.
Who came up with the " just move on strategy"?
Which of them publicly stood in judgement of others with their public remarks?
Which ones actually tried to sound convincing about their care and regard for innocent children?
Shameless shameless shameless.
So, she’s gone. But no….not quite forgotten, I’m afraid. Please have a seat back at the table, Ms. Peetz. Anthony Lubrano noted an hour or so ago that “Peetz believed PSU had a culture problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.” I suggest that PSU has had a Peetz problem dating back to her days as a field hockey player.
Bet she was a dirty player, too.
SR/BHF
The dirty field hockey players were the girls from Chester and Interboro. Karen's a Springfield gal!
Peetz failed to notice Freeh was advancing the ball with his foot and the high-sticking going on all around her. Perhaps Karen's problem was she assumed Freeh & the NCAA would play by the rules.
Hahahaahaa - that's what you get Karen when you wear those pearls out on the playing field.
Clotheslined.
Bet she was a dirty player, too.
SR/BHF
The dirty field hockey players were the girls from Chester and Interboro. Karen's a Springfield gal!
Peetz failed to notice Freeh was advancing the ball with his foot and the high-sticking going on all around her. Perhaps Karen's problem was she assumed Freeh & the NCAA would play by the rules.
Hahahaahaa - that's what you get Karen when you wear those pearls out on the playing field.
Clotheslined.
I have so much material with which to work thanks to all of you.
No question that the BOT needed Freeh to affirm for them their decisions in Nov, 2011. Freeh understood this. He also understood the needs of the NCAA and the Big10. Consequently, the outcome of his "Report" was a foregone conclusion.
Lanny Davis orchestrated the PR initially. Damn the four. They've already been tarred and feathered by the media and cannot be saved. So let's save ourselves.
In the end, Louie Freeh was a money grabbing, PR hungry person.
And Penn State's "leaders" were feckless.
No question that the BOT needed Freeh to affirm for them their decisions in Nov, 2011. Freeh understood this. He also understood the needs of the NCAA and the Big10. Consequently, the outcome of his "Report" was a foregone conclusion.
Lanny Davis orchestrated the PR initially. Damn the four. They've already been tarred and feathered by the media and cannot be saved. So let's save ourselves.
In the end, Louie Freeh was a money grabbing, PR hungry person.
And Penn State's "leaders" were feckless.
"Feckless". I'm gonna' have to steal that one - for those days when I want to be nice......... I may not use it for a while.
I really really really want to know who paid for that airplane.
If you ever wondered how big a liar Corbutt and his Press Secretary, Kevin Harley, are, just read THIS ARTICLE published in the first days after the Staged Presentment and Indictment....not only is it chock-full of lies, but it leads off with one:
First of all, V1 - Aaron Fisher, and his mother BOTH say that Central Mountain High School refused to take his CSA Report or call police in violation of School Policy and the law....Aaron Fisher and him Mother then went directly to Clinton County CYS Office to make their report. Beyond that, it is laughable to claim Corbett didn't "hesitate" in 2009 after receiving the DPW's Report on 3/3/2009 -- all he did was hesitate as confirmed by AGA Eshback's own e-mails. Corbett sat on the DPW "Indicated" Report for two months before submitting a completely UNNECESSARY request for an ILLEGITIMATE SWIGJ via a clearly mis-plead SWIGJ Application that did not include the REQUISITE SUBJECT-MATTER BASIS for a SWIGJ.
Reading this article knowing what we now know makes it quite clear that Corbutt not only engineered this thing, but also engineered the PR coverage of the Presentment with scripted lines that do not line up with REALITY from himself, his Press Secretary (Harley), his political consultant (Brabender), his Chief of PSP (Noonan), etc.....
First of all, V1 - Aaron Fisher, and his mother BOTH say that Central Mountain High School refused to take his CSA Report or call police in violation of School Policy and the law....Aaron Fisher and him Mother then went directly to Clinton County CYS Office to make their report. Beyond that, it is laughable to claim Corbett didn't "hesitate" in 2009 after receiving the DPW's Report on 3/3/2009 -- all he did was hesitate as confirmed by AGA Eshback's own e-mails. Corbett sat on the DPW "Indicated" Report for two months before submitting a completely UNNECESSARY request for an ILLEGITIMATE SWIGJ via a clearly mis-plead SWIGJ Application that did not include the REQUISITE SUBJECT-MATTER BASIS for a SWIGJ.
Reading this article knowing what we now know makes it quite clear that Corbutt not only engineered this thing, but also engineered the PR coverage of the Presentment with scripted lines that do not line up with REALITY from himself, his Press Secretary (Harley), his political consultant (Brabender), his Chief of PSP (Noonan), etc.....
I have to admit, I was surprised to read some article about her that had a family picture with offspring. They didn't look like they were purchased from an orphanage in Africa or Asia either.
The revenue from the football program made it possible for her to play field hockey.
When you have an ego the size ad a Manhattan skyscraper, you probably feel that your field hockey team was the centerpiece of the entire athletics program.
Prez Spanier loaded up the B&I trustee group with very wealthy people whose sole purpose was to give money and to be rewarded for it by the perks of a board seat. This strategy would have worked well if a major crisis had not hit. Once a crisis did hit, they had no interest in protecting Penn State, they simply wanted to make sure none of the ensuing stink rubbed off on them or their companies.
Spanier probably knows where a lot of skeletons are decomposing then. His lawsuit could get very interesting once the paperwork portion is finalized.
Or to borrow...and maybe Hack a little bit...one of BO'B's most beloved phrases, they were a bunch of real feckers.
Was it Spanier or PMA? Seems to me that once the B&I crew completed the takeover of what used to be the engineering society seats, they were awful good at handpicking their own successors. If any of their companies, e.g., BNY-Mellon, actually did donate to the University, they more than made it back in the no-bid contracts they received.
I didn't see that in the Girl Scout Video. Unless you mean the vine that was snipped out of the full Johns Hopkins video that I posted.
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Ironically, Cynthia Baldwin Chaired an Ad Hoc Committee that recommended the Bylaws be amended to provide for the Trustees previously controlled by PMA (and Fred Anton) be elected by a Subcommittee of the Board.
She undertook this effort at the direction of Ted Junker and with the support of Dr Spanier.
In the end, this new group of Trustees from Business and Industry, the "Giants" of industry, turned on Dr Spanier ( thank you John Surma, Ed Hintz, Karen Peetz, Ken Frazier, Jim Broadhurst, and Linda Strumpf). They were worried more about their self-preservation that the University's reputation.
As an aside, Dr Spanier served as Karen Peetz advisor when she was an undergraduate.
She Paterno was asked to introduce Peetz when she was made a Distinguished Alumna in 2010. They apparently could find no one else.
Go figure.
Just when I thought I could not be more disgusted by Peetz.....
Anthony, needless to remind you, but whenever and however often the time is appropriate, please remind Sue that there are countless PSU friends and alumni who are firmly behind her and the Paterno family and are part of her PSU family forever.
Anthony, many people on this board are familiar with the writings of former trustees Ben Novak and Robert Horst how PMA subverted the votes of what formerly were the engineering societies. (For anyone not familiar, I definitely recommend you google these gentlemen. You will find out that the BOT shenanigans go back to at least the 1990s.)
My question is was changing the bylaws, and basically the University charter, via a Subcommittee legal? Is this something that should only have been done by the state legislature?
PMA who serves as PSU's insurer has also been the source for most of the B&I trustees. Was there another bad assumption made that PMA would cover the settlements because they're all in the good old boy and girl network together? From some of the articles, it seems there was genuine shock among certain trustees that PMA challenged the payment of the settlements and would not cover them.
Sorry Nellie. I thought it was Wendy. It was in the 48 or 49 minute long video on leadership. Near the beginning. She was talking about how Penn State is more than football, a la academics, but football is part of social fabric.
I was messing with you.
As long as it was seen. All those women on here, they're all alike, LOL!But I did find the duplication kind of weird. Maybe Wendy has me on ignore. Or double-posting gets more attention, IDK.
With the benefit of hindsight........
Unfortunately, we all assumed that "success with honor" drove Penn State. Even Dr. Spanier was bamboozled.
Wrong bozo, the school DID NOT "Make the call" to Law Enforcement or the Clinton County DA -- you're quite misguided. "The call" was made by the DPW's Clinton County CYS Office headed by Gerald Rosamilia via an "Indicated Report of CSA" against both Sandusky and his personal charity. Even Corbutt's ILLEGITIMATE SWIGJ Application clearly states this.
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Do you really want to go there? If people didn't make bad life decisions, or there weren't bad parents, there would be no need for places like TSM to even exist. We also don't get to pick and choose whose judgments are acceptable and whose aren't based on the outcome we'd like to see.
Corbutt and Feudale are "old hands" at intentionally abusing SWIGJs - HIT THE LINK.
As witness alleges bullying, ACLU adds heat on Tom Corbett
Directly from the article linked above:
Interesting, Corbutt and Feudale (who was the presiding Judge of the SWIGJ in question) abusing the powers and purposes of a SWIGJ for the purpose of trampling "people's constitutional rights" back in the spring of 2010? Go figure?
As witness alleges bullying, ACLU adds heat on Tom Corbett
Directly from the article linked above:
Interesting, Corbutt and Feudale (who was the presiding Judge of the SWIGJ in question) abusing the powers and purposes of a SWIGJ for the purpose of trampling "people's constitutional rights" back in the spring of 2010? Go figure?
