Justin Shorter.....
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Reminds me of early Gesicki...maybe light will go on...but in the meantime, others deserve a chance.
It was one game, and the first that he was actually targeted...not an excuse...but there is no reason that he couldn’t clean it up, especially considering the fact that PSU’s best, most targeted receiver has had drops that didn’t impact his play thereafter.
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Bryant Johnson too. Didn't really get it together until his senior year.
He's gotta get more aggressive in going after the ball when it is in the air. Guys like Hamilton, Godwin, even Blacknall would have never let that first INT happen. They would have gone up and won that ball.
I was going to say the same thing.
We don’t know if he is more like Gesicki or Irv Charles at this point.
I think it is time next week to play some of the true freshman WR’s at the “ X “ position now that freshman can play four games and still RS. Of course, I have not seen practices and I can only hope some of them are at least average.
The 2 years to develop hands model is good if a team wants to compete for titles every few years. But teams that recruit at at top 10 level and develop players leave those that are not ready for prime time on the bench until they prove in practice that they can consistently make plays. And when they get a chance and show by a couple of drops that they are not ready for prime time they are replaced in games. But about all that I can say right now is that Shorter and George are not ready for prime time but there is no one that can catch to put in. I'm hoping that changes next season, and that the first time Shorter drops one next season that Lambert (or another young player that can catch) goes in to the game and never comes out.
Right now the WR depth looks good on paper but not on Saturday afternoons....
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Juwan Johnson...redux.
Part of me thinks there is a lot of Mary Jane consumption on this PSU roster, especially amongst the "skill players".
He's a redshirt freshman. I wouldn't give up on him.
No doubt he needs to be better there, but Clifford underthrew that ball by 7 yards. Good pass is an easy TD.
I like the Gesicki comparison. He will learn from this and become a stud.
You are assuming he catches it...been a tough year for him.
Shorter dropped a pass on the first play of the game. Then he dropped a pass in the end zone in the 3rd quarter.
Chisena also missed a ball at the minnesota four yard line or so. It hit his helmet.
It’s hard to win with these mistakes (and several others on offense and defense).
Chisena also missed a ball at the minnesota four yard line or so. It hit his helmet.
It’s hard to win with these mistakes (and several others on offense and defense).
There was a play where Clifford made a tremendous throw to Friermuth for a first down while running to his left. Shorter was standing wide open in the end zone on the play. I have to wonder if Clifford would have made the same receiver choice if he had an easier throw. Based on what usually happens when Shorter is targeted, I would say yes.
or he’s Juwan Johnson 2.0 and he won’t. Until he proves it on the field I’ll assume the latter.
If he could be as good as Bryant Johnson,that would be nice- here is to that.
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Fade routes to our shortest receiver in the end zone x 2 will cure the drops.
Guys he is a five star recruit. He is not even an average football player right now. Parsons is our only 5 star recruit that has played up to the hype. The 5 stars are huge disappointments.
Yeah thought the red zone play calling was really poor. One drive we passed it all the way down the field then ran the ball three times and then threw a fade to our smallest receiver. Were were shredding them with pass and just amazingly threw one in the last four downs.Fade routes to our shortest receiver in the end zone x 2 will cure the drops.
In all fairness, he's a redshirt freshman, correct? How many times before 2012 did guys with his experience start? Not only here, but across the country.
It’s kind of like in basketball, if your guy is going in for a layup foul him good so he misses the shot.
6 drops on the day in total. 2 red zone turnovers. Missed open men by Cliff.
Too many mistakes today to win on the road against a good team. Shorter, however, is a liability right now and needs to sit down and watch.
Clearly the most disappointing aspect of the offense (IMHO). The tall WRs fail to high point passes. Dropped passes. And there seems to be no improvement as the season progresses. That is concerning.
Today, this is what we got out of the WR “ X “ position : five drops, an interception on a contested catch, a dropped TD and a PI penalty that ended the winning TD drive.
On the positive side, we got one catch for eight yards and one catch for twenty yards. Blocking wasn’t tracked, so maybe there were some contributions.
This should not be lost on JF, Rahne and Parker. This position has produced almost nothing for our offense all season long and actually hurt us badly today. I suppose there was an anticipated problem this year with the efforts to bring in transfers to play this position and granting Chisena a scholarship.
I just hope JF is looking to the portal for next season at WR, because if Hamler leaves, our passing offense is really screwed.
On the positive side, we got one catch for eight yards and one catch for twenty yards. Blocking wasn’t tracked, so maybe there were some contributions.
This should not be lost on JF, Rahne and Parker. This position has produced almost nothing for our offense all season long and actually hurt us badly today. I suppose there was an anticipated problem this year with the efforts to bring in transfers to play this position and granting Chisena a scholarship.
I just hope JF is looking to the portal for next season at WR, because if Hamler leaves, our passing offense is really screwed.
Interesting. Maybe they need to run 12 personnel more often. Bowers and Pat seem to catch everything. I share your concerns for next season. Hopefully 1 or 2 of the freshman step up and the portal presents some opportunities.
Football is team sport coaches included. Everybody is doing their best. Too many mistakes today but victory was still possible.
Franklin sucks at coaching players. Hammer had 3 or 4 drops today he stilled play. Shit he muffed another punt.
I like it too but comparing to past WRs Bryant Johnson could be a key example. I remember never wanting to see Bryant near the offensive side of the ball ever again. That sure changed. Hopefully the same with Justin.
If you think Hamler is a liability for us, you know less about football than anybody on this board, which says a lot.
We have some definite liabilities at WR, but Hamler is not one of them.
By the way, if you look at the muffed punt, you will see Hamler was bumped by his own player just before catching the ball.
Don’t know why people think hammler is holier than thou, the offense would be more efficient without him. Yes he had a nice return against app state.
Not defending previous muffs but in today's instance, teammate #85 Lutz interfered with his catch.
Just curious, which WR would you have playing in front of him ?
If Hamler wasn't on the field the defense would only have to cover the TE as he doesn't throw to the other WRs
They’re kids folks. Blame the coaches, they’re at least grownups. Calling out kids is a bad look for this fan base.
