They weren't screwed. This isn't now, nor has it ever been, about the most deserving. It's the best.
FSU played the 55th best schedule--they're were they deserve to be. Hopefully they have fun at the Orange Bowl
Bama should be in
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FSU played the 55th best schedule--they're were they deserve to be. Hopefully they have fun at the Orange Bowl
Everyone wants to discount and put down "the eye test" but it's going to exist no matter what. Not every team can play everyone else.
Excluding a conference champ in PSU made sense to me than and so does excluding FSU now. We also lost a bowl game to a two loss USC so that pretty much justified the committee's decision.
You’re assuming I support “conferences” which I don’t. I support independence.
I don't think it has anything to do with ESPN, but more with the perception that the SEC is the best in cfb.....probably because an SEC team has won most of the recent ones and many fans seem to believe it.
Those dumbasses might have restarted the Civil War if an SEC team was left out.
Cool--so let's have the Big Ten/SEC break off and form a separate top tier league instead of being a charity for the rest of the teams.
Which again leads back to ESPN and the programming they spew out every day. It is ESPN.
Let’s not create a “league” at all. Each university for itself is more in line with independence.
If you never watched ESPN you'd still know who's won the titles the past 10 years which makes the SEC the best
We all know they're the most talented conference followed by the Big Ten and that gap gets bigger next year.
They still have be in a league--see Notre Dame. I'm not saying a conference but a league.
No, they don’t “have” to be in a league. It’s a choice. Always is and always has been.
The "league" would be the NCAA. You have to be in something or else your just playing scrimmages weekly.
What happened last time FSU was undefeated and made the playoff?
Playing USC in basically a road game and losing by a FG didn’t justify anything when OSU loses 31-0 in their playoff game.
The eye test doesn’t have to exist if like every other sport basically puts set criteria in place of what determines the playoff. Why doesn’t the big ten choose the 2 teams they think are the best to play in the championship game (wonder who they’d choose every year). They don’t play a balanced schedule now and it will get worse going to 16.
The NCAA should be thrown out. The institutions make the NCAA, not the other way around. Universities can make agreements amongst themselves. The NCAA is an intermediary with their own self interests.
I agree--I don't want the NCAA involved either but there still needs to be a league. Which you're saying in bold but arguing against it.
That doesn’t constitute a league at all. There is no governing body to decide anything. Other than universities, regardless of current class or division make decisions on their own. They can schedule or not schedule any opponent they so desire. They can play as many games or not play as many games as they so desire. There is no “formed” league. It’s a University that decides what it wants to do on its own with the best interests of itself and its students at heart.
I’m not a supporter of a post season. I think bowl games and playoffs are ridiculous. They simply serve an agenda.
Does it not, in the least, strike you as odd that the SEC started winning all of these titles and stock piling talent about the same time they started their contractual relationship with ESPN? Merely coincidence I’m sure……
Tough call. Alabama struggled to beat 5 very average teams. All Auburn had to do to beat them was catch a punt. They were fortunate to only have 1 loss. That said they won the SEC title game.
What's the point of playing in your scenario? There's no champ. Everyone gets a participation trophy?
Ah, so you need a trophy for playing? Again, I’m a purist who views sports as a cultural tool to develop our youth. Nothing more and nothing less.
You aren’t seriously asking that question are you? I’m assuming you’re smarter than that.
You sound like someone who believes in “diversity, equity and inclusion” and “ESG”.
Definitely not my fiend. I argued for FSU having the opportunity to prove themselves on the field. That’s not a participation trophy. I believe you stated something about trophies. That definitely didn’t come from me. What I have noticed is you spend a lot time assuming people are thinking something. That’s on you my friend, nobody else.
All these arguments go away with pre-defined criteria. My choice would be 8 conference WINNERS feeding an 8 team playoff. That's a real playoff not an invitational tournament. If you don't win your conference you're out. Too bad. I don't care if the 3rd place team in the SEC is "better" than the MAC champion. You're not the best team in the SEC and only the WINNER gets to participate and you know that on day one. No eye tests need apply.
You're saying no champs...100% participation trophies as we're just developing kids thar are already adults.
Then why shouldn't teams create weak conferences they can win. There's a reason no sport in the US (pro or college) does it that way
Fine. If you want to move from the Big 10 to the MAC then go. Of course you give up millions which is all they really care about.
Your premise is silly. Actually stupid but you know that. You just like arguing about everything. I admit that pushing your buttons is easy and hilarious.
Here's one. Grass is green. Argue about that.
It's not silly. Name any other college sport that does that's. It's illogical. 10 of the top 11 will be in the SEC and Big Ten but your solution is to ignore that and think a MAC team should be in. If this is you pushing buttons cool at least you're not a complete idiot who believes that.
Not a bad idea. The South can have Staten Island and Colorado Springs and the Good Guys can have New Orleans and Savannah.
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