Yep, kasak going for the ride out , got caughtwrestling through position and Manville gets the fall. ....wow
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Yep, kasak going for the ride out , got caughtwrestling through position and Manville gets the fall. ....wow
I mean, it's just a factor of having more kids in AAA, right? If you have 3 times as many kids, you should produce 3 times as many D1 wrestlers. A deeper dive into which class produces more D1 wrestlers per capita might be interesting.AAA produces more D1 wrestlers. Also, when looking at the AA and AAA medalists, at most weights AAA is deeper -- i.e., if there were one bracket, it would be mostly AAA guys on the podium. Also, a lot of the AA state qualifiers and probably some medalists wouldn't get out of regionals -- and some wouldn't get out of districts.
That said, in a combined bracket AA would get its share of champs. Maybe not 50-50, but close. It's further down the podium where AAA is better.
PA AA is still one of the toughest state tournaments in the country.
NICE!P. Manville - WOW!
Definitely a big factor but there has to be more to it than that.I mean, it's just a factor of having more kids in AAA, right? If you have 3 times as many kids, you should produce 3 times as many D1 wrestlers. A deeper dive into which class produces more D1 wrestlers per capita might be interesting.
Stout learned a hard lesson. You don’t wanna scramble with a Sasso. You got served MacThose Manville chins are all carved from the same granite.
Sasso with a nice comeback against Stout, who looked dominant out of the gate with two barely contested takedowns, and then may have ran out of gas.
It was very apparent that this was Sammy's brother, yeah.Stout learned a hard lesson. You don’t wanna scramble with a Sasso. You got served Mac
Not a stunner to anyone paying attention though... and Tan Tom's first commit (Kaedyn Williams) ...
Losing in the semis is so on brand for Ohio State.
For sure there are other factors. Eliminating Philly and Pitt from the analysis would probably make the most sense.Definitely a big factor but there has to be more to it than that.
Nobody has more kids than Philly and Pittsburgh cities, and they're virtual wastelands for wrestling.
Crookham number one advantage when he won his first 2 titles was his strength. When he was a sophomore he was was benching almost 300. When he beat Howard who was a senior he was stronger than him. Albeit Howard was coming back from injury. When he beat Haines a couple of times that same year at 126 he was stronger than Levi. Competing at 138 this year the strength advantage is not so predominant.
I'm curious if he has ability to cut back to 133 in college.
This would be Iowa's reasoning as well.For sure there are other factors. Eliminating Philly and Pitt from the analysis would probably make the most sense.
I'm just saying that we should probably at least mention that all AAA schools are larger when comparing the two classes.
Since the schools are roughly in half at the median (I know that is imperfect because co-ops exist), the smaller schools will just have a smaller population of kids to draw from. Whether the schools are in Allegheny or Centre County, it's just a bigger population when you add up the 250 biggest schools vs the 250 smallest.Definitely a big factor but there has to be more to it than that.
Nobody has more kids than Philly and Pittsburgh cities, and they're virtual wastelands for wrestling.
It's always been that way. What started as "A" and "B" and moved to "AAA" and "AA" the bigger class has always had more really good kids, but "AA" has always had top end kids that would make their presence known in any "AAA" competition.AAA produces more D1 wrestlers. Also, when looking at the AA and AAA medalists, at most weights AAA is deeper -- i.e., if there were one bracket, it would be mostly AAA guys on the podium. Also, a lot of the AA state qualifiers and probably some medalists wouldn't get out of regionals -- and some wouldn't get out of districts.
That said, in a combined bracket AA would get its share of champs. Maybe not 50-50, but close. It's further down the podium where AAA is better.
PA AA is still one of the toughest state tournaments in the country.
The AAA v AA would not be what all that. Only seniors can wrestle in it. Having a AA 4th Placer wrestle an AAA champion isn't all that appealing.I’d prefer a AA vs AAAChampions Classic over the dapper Dan or whatever they are calling it these days
He didn't say seniors-only. Even if that were a past format.The AAA v AA would not be what all that. Only seniors can wrestle in it. Having a AA 4th Placer wrestle an AAA champion isn't all that appealing.
Yea , champ vs champ , not all seniorsHe didn't say seniors-only. Even if that were a past format.
Me too.I’d prefer a AA vs AAAChampions Classic over the dapper Dan or whatever they are calling it these days
Ok so I am bored at work and ran some numbers here, should I post some of my findings here on in a new thread?Since the schools are roughly in half at the median (I know that is imperfect because co-ops exist), the smaller schools will just have a smaller population of kids to draw from. Whether the schools are in Allegheny or Centre County, it's just a bigger population when you add up the 250 biggest schools vs the 250 smallest.
To put another way, if you wanted to divide the state by having exactly the same amount of kids to pull from in AA and AAA, AA would probably have 400 schools and AAA would have 100 (or something similar).
New thread please -- I suspect it'll generate other discussion, and eventually get lost if buried in this thread.Ok so I am bored at work and ran some numbers here, should I post some of my findings here on in a new thread?
As if David needed any help, but I have to think some parents and wrestlers on the fence about whether or not to attend M2 just changed their mindsM2 kids are tearing it up
Dapper is cool but I've always thought a AA v AAA post season or even pre season dual would be fun.I’d prefer a AA vs AAAChampions Classic over the dapper Dan or whatever they are calling it these days
I think the dapper Dan started out as AA versus AAA may be wrongI’d prefer a AA vs AAAChampions Classic over the dapper Dan or whatever they are calling it these days
How many M2 kids are in the finals of AA and AAA and what’s their year in school. The one post by M2 mentioned lots of freshmen going to states. Thanks for anyone that can answer thisAs if David needed any help, but I have to think some parents and wrestlers on the fence about whether or not to attend M2 just changed their minds
umm... all we have to do is convince the piaa they could make some$$Dapper is cool but I've always thought a AA v AAA post season or even pre season dual would be fun.
Thanks. Amazing work they are doing
The finalists:
Brock Weiss - SO
Scott Johnson - JR
Cole Karpinski - SR
Austin Johnson - FR
Nate Desmond - FR
Dalton Perry - FR
Think NJ with one class would rank higher than PA AA. Possibly Prep Championship also.I don't know if the rankings have changed but wasn't the degree of difficulty of state tournaments:
1. PA AAA
2. CA
3. OH AAA
4. PA AA
I may have the middle 2 wrong.