If you grab the guy in the back and hold on to his jersey for dear life is that technically holding? I mean isn't it outside of the shoulder pads if you are holding on to the guy on the back numbers? Or is that still inside the shoulder pads, just the back of the shoulder pads? It looks like #77 grabs Mauti right on his number 2 while pushing down on his upper back with his other hand. Is that Mauti's fault for beating the guy to the spot to make the play?
Made it really difficult for #40 to help make the play after he was tackled from behind.
Also, LaVar was inches from the sack on that play and Brady just heaved it. I can see that play clear as day. Had a perfect view from the seats.
Buckeye. And I've shown one blatantly bad call against Ohio State already (2007 Illinois non-fumble), but apparently that one didn't count for reasons I still don't understand. There was a "fumble" against Purdue a few years back, Braxton Miller was on the ball laying flat on the ground, but apparently wasn't down yet. There's more missed holding calls than I can mention. I literally see half a dozen every single game. No, I don't have gifs because I don't feel the need to collect them and show every single missed call against Ohio State ever.
Have you not been looking at the Judge's vids? Bad calls are not always measured by the the number of calls that are made but often by the ones that are not made or are simply made wrong (e.g., poor ball placement). Just because you can't quantitate them with an official stat doesn't mean they never happened.
Just because he has videos doesn't mean those calls don't go against other teams. As I mentioned, I don't collect gifs of missed call. I often forget about them as soon as the next play starts. That doesn't mean they don't happen.
Hah! You think that's something?Very nice that you can find many/most of our full games on Youtube now.
Using TECHMOLOGY
...going to go back through some of these games and then we can put a little meat behind some of the arguments about the officiating we've received. Then we can move, hopefully, beyond the HERP DERP CONSPIRACY LOL TIN FOIL HAT comments. But probably not, right?
The 2005 game was notable for the horrible spots we received throughout, and a crucial fumble by Mike Hart in Michigan territory in the 4th. The call was not reviewed, though replay was available at the time. I didn't included all the bad spots, there were more.
Face mask missed in the 1st
Very helpful spot for Michigan on 3rd down in their territory.
Of course, the spots for us went the other way. Catches the ball on the other side of the sticks, and this ref marked even back beyond where he was put on the ground after being forced backwards. Should have been a first down.
This was the "crooked walk" from this ref that was commented on by the announcer. Looked like he came up just short of the first down, in Michigan territory, on 3rd down. The gif can be only 5 seconds, but the ref continued walking on an angle to mark him for a first down. Would have been a punt.
This was the killer. Ball was clearly knocked out before Hart was down, and Penn State recovered it. Would have been PSU ball in Michigan territory in the 4th quarter. Believe Michigan scored a field goal on this drive. Should have been reviewed at minimum, was not reviewed. If that is called correctly, or reviewed as it should have been, PSU probably wins the game and goes undefeated that season, making it to the National Championship game. We finished the season 12-1, ranked #3.
^^ This debate has already played out at Big Ten headquarters. Our concerns were validated by the implementation of instant replay.
Very nice that you can find many/most of our full games on Youtube now.
Using TECHMOLOGY
...going to go back through some of these games and then we can put a little meat behind some of the arguments about the officiating we've received. Then we can move, hopefully, beyond the HERP DERP CONSPIRACY LOL TIN FOIL HAT comments. But probably not, right?
The 2005 game was notable for the horrible spots we received throughout, and a crucial fumble by Mike Hart in Michigan territory in the 4th. The call was not reviewed, though replay was available at the time. I didn't included all the bad spots, there were more.
Face mask missed in the 1st
Very helpful spot for Michigan on 3rd down in their territory.
Of course, the spots for us went the other way. Catches the ball on the other side of the sticks, and this ref marked even back beyond where he was put on the ground after being forced backwards. Should have been a first down.
This was the "crooked walk" from this ref that was commented on by the announcer. Looked like he came up just short of the first down, in Michigan territory, on 3rd down. The gif can be only 5 seconds, but the ref continued walking on an angle to mark him for a first down. Would have been a punt.
This was the killer. Ball was clearly knocked out before Hart was down, and Penn State recovered it. Would have been PSU ball in Michigan territory in the 4th quarter. Believe Michigan scored a field goal on this drive. Should have been reviewed at minimum, was not reviewed. If that is called correctly, or reviewed as it should have been, PSU probably wins the game and goes undefeated that season, making it to the National Championship game. We finished the season 12-1, ranked #3.
So, a legitimate concern and gripe about 7 or 8 officials out of 55, and why they were allowed to continue to officiate those games. That, I can understand.
It was in 1993 and it was, I believe, a play where the Michigan QB, Todd Collins, fumbled and PSU should have recovered. Not unlike the one that Bobby Hoying - actually Eddie George - got away with in the 3rd quarter of the 1995 game.
Yes. You're right. I was just going back to correct it. It was Eddie George. Wouldn't PSU have run it back for the score down the sideline if they had called it correctly?
It was there a bounced pass called a completion? How about a bounced INT that was called an INT and couldn't be reviewed because the video wasn't working. Or a field goal kicked three seconds after the play clock expired? Oh wait, those weren't calls against PSU when they played Michigan...must have been another team playing Michigan since it all evens out. It couldn't have been calls that hurt PSU against OSU...that would be too suspicious and would show a bias against PSU and we all know that doesn't exist in the Big.
