60+ Level One Violations, dummy."deep, dark stain", lol, cry harder...level 3 violation, dummy
"Seriously undermine or threaten the integrity of college sports"
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60+ Level One Violations, dummy."deep, dark stain", lol, cry harder...level 3 violation, dummy
TV ratings not appreciable better for UM vs OSU or PSU. Not an issue.Valid points for sure.
It's going to be interesting to see what the Big Ten value most here. I'm guessing the networks want no action taken against Michigan as Michigan is one of the cash cows. Does the Big Ten care more about a story or maybe winning a title?
But they're significantly better than Rutgers, Northwestern and Illinois and the rest of the Big TenTV ratings not appreciable better for UM vs OSU or PSU. Not an issue.
But keep sticking up for Michigan. We know you aren't a Michigan troll (wink, wink)
Irony and self- awareness are lost on you. What a Stoic.after saturday, this crowd of loons are all yours lando....emotional and stupid, pretty bad combo, lol
I just think they're being unrealistic but we'll see what happens, if anything, tomorrow.after saturday, this crowd of loons are all yours lando....emotional and stupid, pretty bad combo, lol
Why don't you stay with your circle jerk over at the UM board - whining about being picked on for f'ing cheating.after saturday, this crowd of loons are all yours lando....emotional and stupid, pretty bad combo, lol
We are talking about this in the context of the post-season this year, correct? Rutgers isn't making the BTCCG or the CFP. That's basiscally down to UM, PSU and OSU (the west winner won't go to CFP).But they're significantly better than Rutgers, Northwestern and Illinois and the rest of the Big Ten
Are you seriously arguing that Michigan isn't a cash cow for the networks?
Again, dealing with reality doesn't make me a Michigan fan
Couldn't care less about Michigan--I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion involving this and you're crying over how we were treated.
No we're talking about everything including TV ban, post-season ban, etc. They still want all 3 in the playoff and NY6. That's money being lost bumping Michigan. It has downstream impact on televised bowl games.We are talking about this in the context of the post-season this year, correct? Rutgers isn't making the BTCCG or the CFP. That's basiscally down to UM, PSU and OSU (the west winner won't go to CFP).
The ratings for any of those three schools in the CCG and/or playoff would be similar if not identical.
Yes, this is exactly Michigan's strategy and I think they will get away with it in terms of Harbaugh skating through.Just guessing this could be Michigan’s current POV:
— Top priority is to save this season. The school knows the program is probably toast for next year. Push hard for a delay until after the season is complete. With some luck, team could play for (and possibly win) a national championship before getting punished.
— Harbaugh departs after the season, likely for an NFL gig similar to the move made by Pete Carroll. Michigan sacrifices a few members of the coaching staff to ice the cake.
— Michigan then pleads for mercy from the NCAA, claiming all the bad actors are gone and any severe sanctions would only hurt innocent players and incoming coaches.
You think the Harvard of the West is getting banned from CFP???if UM goes 12-0 and gets banned from the CCG, there is no way the cfp takes a loser 12-1 team that lost to UM..
If this was Iowa or Nebraska or quite frankly PSU then the punishment would have already been implemented. But we are talking about the precious golden boy Harvard of the west, best state school in America yada yada so there is a different protocol for them. They are above everyone else. Their sh$$ don't stink.Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe say Michigan should be banned from this year's CFP.
If Harbaugh didn't know, it's only because he chose not to know.
It's just hard to get away from the fact that the major turn-around of Michigan's football fortunes coincided with the implementation of the low-level staffer's elaborate cheating project:
100% disagree--especially if it was usIf this was Iowa or Nebraska or quite frankly PSU then the punishment would have already been implemented. But we are talking about the precious golden boy Harvard of the west, best state school in America yada yada so there is a different protocol for them. They are above everyone else. Their sh$$ don't stink.
Still here lol? More like after Saturday you will be off to whoever VHS University plays next.after saturday, this crowd of loons are all yours lando....emotional and stupid, pretty bad combo, lol
Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe say Michigan should be banned from this year's CFP.
If Harbaugh didn't know, it's only because he chose not to know.
It's just hard to get away from the fact that the major turn-around of Michigan's football fortunes coincided with the implementation of the low-level staffer's elaborate cheating project:
But do they have any incentive to do so?
That's what confuses me most. Same with CMU. Why would anyone cooperate? They gain nothing.
If Michigan's "major turn around" was caused by Stalions (and not Covid in 2020), you would expect the Vegas lines involving Michigan to see major movement. Not the three points speculating whether Harbaugh would coach; the three TDs a Big Ten coach said having another team's signs was worth.
What? Did you write this believing this to be true? Or is this your dream scenario of what should happen despite all kinds of legal issues?Sure. The Commissioner can call each of the coaches into his office. If any coach doesn’t come clean or lies, they will never coach in the college ranks again.
If this was Iowa or Nebraska or quite frankly PSU then the punishment would have already been implemented. But we are talking about the precious golden boy Harvard of the west, best state school in America yada yada so there is a different protocol for them. They are above everyone else. Their sh$$ don't stink.
I appreciate the honesty here...if most would admit it's primarily about what happened to us it would make more senseAgreed.
Look, Michigan and the entire league were enthusiastically on board for the NCAA kangaroo court, egged on by a media lynch mob, that went well outside its proper jurisdiction to levy crippling sanctions against our football program for crimes that had nothing to do with the sport or the players or the coaches.
Fast-forward over a decade later, and one of the league's sacred cows has apparently committed major infractions that go directly to the integrity of the game and athletic competition. And hell yeah, I want to see them pay a high price...because they should.
So do Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe. It's obvious they hate those arrogant a## wipes.Agreed.
Look, Michigan and the entire league were enthusiastically on board for the NCAA kangaroo court, egged on by a media lynch mob, that went well outside its proper jurisdiction to levy crippling sanctions against our football program for crimes that had nothing to do with the sport or the players or the coaches.
Fast-forward over a decade later, and one of the league's sacred cows has apparently committed major infractions that go directly to the integrity of the game and athletic competition. And hell yeah, I want to see them pay a high price...because they should.
Didn’t an 11-1 B1G squad that lost to Michigan and didn’t even play in the CCG go last year?if UM goes 12-0 and gets banned from the CCG, there is no way the cfp takes a loser 12-1 team that lost to UM..
Didn’t an 11-1 B1G squad that lost to Michigan and didn’t even play in the CCG go last year?
And yet now they cry due process. The biggest mistake PSU made was joining the Big Ten. It has been a kangaroo organization geared toward Michigan and OSU. It will be interesting to see what happens when big boys like USC, Oregon, Washington and UCLA join. How many times will the big ten zebras employ the same phantom holds, time clock malfunctions, drunken spot walks, etc.? What will the okie dokie, awe shucks midwest media do with voting and press when USC spoils the love affair with "the game" or Oregon runs the table?Agreed.
Look, Michigan and the entire league were enthusiastically on board for the NCAA kangaroo court, egged on by a media lynch mob, that went well outside its proper jurisdiction to levy crippling sanctions against our football program for crimes that had nothing to do with the sport or the players or the coaches.
Fast-forward over a decade later, and one of the league's sacred cows has apparently committed major infractions that go directly to the integrity of the game and athletic competition. And hell yeah, I want to see them pay a high price...because they should.
I’m going to try to keep helping you with your writing because I actually think you make good points from time to time when not bashing refs.No you wouldn'tdumbass- the extensive portfolio of information thatscUM built on PSU's Offensive and Defensive Playbooks (among double-digit other opponents) via their massive, institutionalized cheating scheme doesn't just suddenly disappear because they suspendHairballHarbaugh. That is just a ridiculous proposition, but fairly typical ofyou puke scUM fans. Let me get this straight - all of thescUM coaches and players just forget everything they've learned over the last several years about PSU's formations and plays becauseHairballHarbaugh gets suspended? Got it.... LMAO.
One could say the answer to your question lies within your post. Perhaps like the ancient Roman legionnaires the zebras will continue to defend “the game” against the Western barbarians at all costs.And yet now they cry due process. The biggest mistake PSU made was joining the Big Ten. It has been a kangaroo organization geared toward Michigan and OSU. It will be interesting to see what happens when big boys like USC, Oregon, Washington and UCLA join. How many times will the big ten zebras employ the same phantom holds, time clock malfunctions, drunken spot walks, etc.? What will the okie dokie, awe shucks midwest media do with voting and press when USC spoils the love affair with "the game" or Oregon runs the table?
There are hundreds of millions of reasons why that’s not true.And yet now they cry due process. The biggest mistake PSU made was joining the Big Ten.
Looks like the Big Ten may hit Michigan with a large fine that goes to putting earphones in QB helmets.
Stay tuned...
Over under on years before wiretapping scandal...
Ryan Day's PI firm may be on retainer.
"operating in a vaccum"Yes, this is exactly Michigan's strategy and I think they will get away with it in terms of Harbaugh skating through.
They apparently can't tie it to Harbaugh so this is their glimmer of hope. I just wonder though if they have to fire or suspend both coordinators this season because they had to have known. Not sure how scUM could credibly push the narrative that this Stalions guy went rogue and solo and was operating in a a vaccum with no other coach knowing anything.
There's no way they forfeit regular season games. Could you imagine the Networks reactions to losing Penn State/Michigan and Ohio State/Michigan.I think a suspension is more or less pointless.
My preference is for games to be forfeited and any/all chance for CCG or end of season invitational are eliminated.
Probably true and there are too many ramifications with the standings.There's no way they forfeit regular season games. Could you imagine the Networks reactions to losing Penn State/Michigan and Ohio State/Michigan.
It being want you want is fine as long as you know there's zero chance it happens.
And I'm fine with that. I don't disagree at all.Probably true and there are too many ramifications with the standings.
But a post-season ban is certainly warranted.
From what I've read this morning, Big Ten gave their decision to UM today and UM has until tomorrow to respond. I would expect we learn about the punishments tomorrow or Friday. But the way this was worded doesn't sound like "no punishment" is a thing.And I'm fine with that. I don't disagree at all.
I just don't think the Big Ten has the balls to do it and the NCAA won't act in time.
I really believe the Big Ten won't say anything until Monday and it will be essentially meaningless but I hope I'm wrong if for no other reason for the entertainment value alone of watching the war between Michigan and the Big Ten.