WOW - Rutgers requiring all to be vaxed before returning to campus in fall!!!
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Shades of things to come. Soon you will have to be vaccinated to fly, go to a movie theater, attend a football game, maybe even go to a bar or restaurant. I don't know if this is right or wrong, but that is the way it will be.
Next question: what about employees?
Students have to have vaccines (teachers too) to attend elementary school. Adults shouldn’t be any different.
Schools have always had vaccination requirements of students without the areas you mentioned doing the same. Why is this different?
I don't think it is. I agree with it. Hopefully, the vax will be available to everyone by then, then the doctors note\record will have to reflect it on the vax record just like measles and whatever else is required.
Excellent point. I think this is a great thing. We need to get back to freaking normal because what we have been living in the last year is almost inhumane although completely necessary.
While everyone thinks this is the way it should be, keep in mind there are people who do not get vaccines for medical reasons such as GBS (Guillian-Barre Syndrome). I have personal experience with this with my mother and we have been told by our doctor to not get flu shots and my children have a medical exception for this reason as well. That being said, we have have been told to avoid the Covid vaccine for this same reason since we don’t fall into category that’s at risk.
My issue is now because of requirements like this my family and I may run into issues. Is it fair? Depends on who you ask I guess. I hope that after a year or so this will settle down with the vaccines that are rolled out and basic heard immunity.
“While researchers have not yet determined the exact cause of Guillain-Barre Syndrome and its variants, medical science and federal law both now recognize certain vaccinations as potential triggers for GBS. Each year, numerous patients are diagnosed with vaccine-related GBS. These individuals often incur substantial losses as a result of their symptoms and treatment .”
My issue is now because of requirements like this my family and I may run into issues. Is it fair? Depends on who you ask I guess. I hope that after a year or so this will settle down with the vaccines that are rolled out and basic heard immunity.
“While researchers have not yet determined the exact cause of Guillain-Barre Syndrome and its variants, medical science and federal law both now recognize certain vaccinations as potential triggers for GBS. Each year, numerous patients are diagnosed with vaccine-related GBS. These individuals often incur substantial losses as a result of their symptoms and treatment .”
It appears they are making exceptions for legitimate medical or religious reasons, but hopefully not for "I don't want to".
Your family has legitimate medical reasons to avoid the vaccine, so exceptions accommodations should be made for you.
They don't require flu shots and this is similar. Truly not a vaccine. Doesn't prevent you from spreading Covid and they don't know how long the vaccine is good for. One place I read said it may only be good for 3 months....they have no idea.
COVID-19 Vaccination Considerations for Persons with Underlying Medica
If you have an underlying medical condition, this can help you make an informed decision about getting a COVID-19 vaccination.
Can I get a Penn State logo'd vaccine card to enter the White Out next year?
COVID-19 Vaccination Considerations for Persons with Underlying Medica
If you have an underlying medical condition, this can help you make an informed decision about getting a COVID-19 vaccination.www.cdc.gov
Thanks for posting. I read this a while back as well. This is what stands out:
“One case of GBS was reported in a vaccinated participant in the Johnson & Johnson Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine clinical trial”
Again, I’m not trying to be the “Vaccines are bad” guy. My kids and I are vaccinated with the standards. We just avoid the Flu (and now Covid). My mother’s quality of life has been greatly diminished the past 15 years from GBS and seeing that just sheds a different light and awareness. I wouldn’t wish what she’s going through on anyone and knowing it could have been avoided is what’s most heartbreaking. I know this isn’t common but being told that it could be a genetic issue makes my decision simple. I just hope my family and I aren’t punished over something I can’t control.
We have discussed this with our Doctor and he told us just to wait and see how everything plays out with covid vaccine papers before we get too worked up. Taking his advice and seeing how things play out.
What if I don’t want to put something in my body that was rushed and not sure of long term effects? People like us don’t get a say?
my wife just had a blood clot, the first question she was asked is if she got a certain vaccine that has been found to cause them. there have been numerous false positive tests for cancer because people lymph nodes are swollen after receiving the vaccine, they are freaking out. No worries, Covid is more serious than cancer.
And I don’t want to hear any political jargon, people on both sides of that aisle are scared, though for different reasons. I work with many who are frightened that they soon may be forced to get it by their employer, and they are both right and far lefts.
my wife just had a blood clot, the first question she was asked is if she got a certain vaccine that has been found to cause them. there have been numerous false positive tests for cancer because people lymph nodes are swollen after receiving the vaccine, they are freaking out. No worries, Covid is more serious than cancer.
And I don’t want to hear any political jargon, people on both sides of that aisle are scared, though for different reasons. I work with many who are frightened that they soon may be forced to get it by their employer, and they are both right and far lefts.
Tell your coworkers that until politicians change tort law in the US, employers are forced into doing things like possibly mandating vaccines. It’s not the ‘evil employer,’ it is the evil predatory law firms.
Someone like you should want every eligible person to get the vaccine. It's the best way to protect people that can't get the vaccine due to health reasons.
So don’t take it. Nobody is forcing anyone to take it. If a kid doesn’t want it, he has the right to go to another school.
You need to learn how to translate media fear porn. Maybe develop a new algorithm for such and sell it to Google translate.
Yes they are. Ever try to transfer schools as a Senior?
I don't have much issue with the vaccination part but implying this isn't effectively forcing kids to take a vaccine is untrue.
LdN
You can’t do anything unless you get a vaccine....but we’re not making you get it. Give me a break....have an independent thought for once in your life.
Funny, it looks like the politicians are the real problem from reading your post.
Not surprising. Our girls' universities are planning for the same. BTW, you have to file a shot record to attend college. It's been that way for years. Nothing new.
If rutgres put the effort into winning football games that they do in controlling people’s bodies, people might actually want to go to rutgres.
Your statement about COVID vaccines not preventing you from spreading it is false. There have been no reputable medical studies that have shown this.
From what I understand Rutgers is not requiring the Faculty or Staff to be vaccinated which seems stupid given the fact that I would guess they are in a mcuh higher risk group than the students but maybe the plan on using the students vaccinations as protection which again would be stupid.
I agree. If they are requiring students, then faculty and staff should be required as well. But, I think requirements for students and staff is different. Isn't meningitis vax required to live on campus at PSU? But I know it is not required of the faculty and staff. The other thing is they need to provide it to students who haven't had it yet.
https://studentaffairs.psu.edu/health-wellness/medical-services/immunizations
Measles doesn't seem as bad as covid but a measles shot is required to attend almost any school in the US. Why should Covid be different? From the CDC website
In the 9th century, a Persian doctor published one of the first written accounts of measles disease.
Francis Home, a Scottish physician, demonstrated in 1757 that measles is caused by an infectious agent in the blood of patients.
In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.
In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.
