Why not all three? We can rotate them and see who has the hot hand. LOLMaybe the'll back a dump truck full of money on Franklin's driveway and we can hire Matt Campbell, Bronco Mendenhall or bring back Bill O'Brien. All would be upgrades.
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Why not all three? We can rotate them and see who has the hot hand. LOLMaybe the'll back a dump truck full of money on Franklin's driveway and we can hire Matt Campbell, Bronco Mendenhall or bring back Bill O'Brien. All would be upgrades.
If bowl games were the measure, all Big10 coaches over past 5 decades would have been toast (less one).Yep.
The knock on Malzahn isn't his inability to beat Saban. He's actually done that better than anybody -- including LSU or Georgia.
The knock on Malzahn is the penchant for losing bowl games and dropping random games he probably shouldn't. Though in his defense, the majority of his losses were against ranked teams. Until this year, they haven't lost many games against unranked teams. A few here and there, but not a ton.
As strong as the SEC West has been over the past decade, his record at Auburn is admirable. It's definitely a gamble to fire him in thinking you can do better. Particularly with Bama being Bama, Georgia being Georgia, and Texas A&M getting better.
First, I don't why all the surprise. There have been whispers for the past few seasons.
Second, his records at Auburn -
12-2
8-5
7-6
8-5
10-4
8-5
9-4
6-4
2-5 in bowl games including recently losses to Minny and UCF.
Not really that impressive. Would PSU fans be happy with these records?
Nick Saben did well between LSU & Alabama from MSU.Some of these names are non-starters. An SEC school, other than Vandy, is not going to hire anyone who is not from the south with deep SEC ties. Anyone who does not have these things on their resume, don't bother applying.
Why do you get to take out the first yearTake out his first year and he has averaged 5 losses a year. Not really elite.
Don’t tell the people in WV that
Your point?? That part of the state knows they are in the south!! Just ask themNick Lou was born in Fairmont and grew up in Monogah, a whopping 35 miles south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Fair point. Don't take out his best season at Auburn. Don't forget that it was 8 years ago either. The Auburn grad I know pointed that out to me right away.Why do you get to take out the first year
Your point?? That part of the state knows they are in the south!! Just ask them
The last point though will be that part of WV has produced some pretty good coaches. Off the top of my head you have Nick, Jimbo, Dick Rod all from around that area. I think at least either a Tommy or Terry is from near there although that’s explainable considering their DadI'll pass. That would be like rasslin' with a pig. Guessin' that folks in Mississippi and Arkanasas don't consider the area around Fairmont to be part of Dixie.
The last point though will be that part of WV has produced some pretty good coaches. Off the top of my head you have Nick, Jimbo, Dick Rod all from around that area. I think at least either a Tommy or Terry is from near there although that’s explainable considering their Dad
I don’t remember where Lou is from
Now throw in some that have moved on from different parts like a Joe Krivak, Jim Grobe and Bob Pruett
And there’s always Doc Holiday
There’s at least one more I am forgetting so help me out
my Lou was Holtz born in WV. Now I dont know if that was because they lived in OH, but the hospital was over the line in WV or what the case was, but his place of birth is listed as Follansbee, WV which is in the Northern panhandle.Lou Saban? Illinois.
How does this thread, until now, not have a single Urban Meyer reference?
Gus is the most under rated coach in the country. He is an Elite level coach.
Yep.
The knock on Malzahn isn't his inability to beat Saban. He's actually done that better than anybody -- including LSU or Georgia.
The knock on Malzahn is the penchant for losing bowl games and dropping random games he probably shouldn't. Though in his defense, the majority of his losses were against ranked teams. Until this year, they haven't lost many games against unranked teams. A few here and there, but not a ton.
As strong as the SEC West has been over the past decade, his record at Auburn is admirable. It's definitely a gamble to fire him in thinking you can do better. Particularly with Bama being Bama, Georgia being Georgia, and Texas A&M getting better.
Sorry to Hijack the thread but @NittanyIllinois but what do you think of our crossover matchup?
I haven't seen Illinois this season.
Sorry to Hijack the thread but @NittanyIllinois but what do you think of our crossover matchup?
I haven't seen Illinois this season.
Because he inherited that talent, much like Coker.Why do you get to take out the first year
Lou Holtz was from WV...also John McKay.my Lou was Holtz born in WV. Now I dont know if that was because they lived in OH, but the hospital was over the line in WV or what the case was, but his place of birth is listed as Follansbee, WV which is in the Northern panhandle.
But I swear there is at least 1 more running around, and its not Tommy Groom
That’s who I was forgetting John McKayLou Holtz was from WV...also John McKay.
It’s going really well down at Auburn. The coach of Univ of Louisiana just turned them down.
Let’s count it down. Mario Cristobal is sticking with Oregon. Kevin Steele is not a candidate. Billy Napier isn’t a candidate. Steve Sarkisian wants Gus money — not a candidate. Tony Elliott is not a candidate. Maybe Brent Venables is a possibility, but it’s been super quiet there.
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Lane Kiffin or bust
Looking back now, this is an underrated post. 👍Tough to say how Illinois responds without Lovie. They may be totally deflated......or they may come out with an energy and togetherness that could make them dangerous.
All things being equal, they suck. A lot.
They have a solid inside running game -- their OL is the strength of their team, though a few of their guys are hurt. They have some fast backs, though nobody with a lot of power. They have a solid WR -- a USC transfer -- and a few solid TEs. QB Brandon Peters is mobile and can throw, but he's been pretty poor all year. So, they have some nice talented pieces on offense, but the scheming has been poor and they've massively underperformed.
The defense plain sucks. Lovie as DC was a huge mistake. They go for strips on every play, missing a lot of tackles in the process. A few nice pieces, but the unit as a whole blows.
If both teams play at their average level, PSU wins by 14+.
Bill Clark, the excellent head coach at UAB, has also apparently declined. These coaches all know how toxic Auburn is.It’s going really well down at Auburn. The coach of Univ of Louisiana just turned them down.
Let’s count it down. Mario Cristobal is sticking with Oregon. Kevin Steele is not a candidate. Billy Napier isn’t a candidate. Steve Sarkisian wants Gus money — not a candidate. Tony Elliott is not a candidate. Maybe Brent Venables is a possibility, but it’s been super quiet there.
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Lane Kiffin or bust
Don’t discount the possibility of that rumor coming out.Franklin to auburn.
Maybe the'll back a dump truck full of money on Franklin's driveway and we can hire Matt Campbell, Bronco Mendenhall or bring back Bill O'Brien. All would be upgrades.
Why do you get to take out the first year
When a 52 year old who is 40-22 at a Conference USA school turns you down, its not goodBill Clark, the excellent head coach at UAB, has also apparently declined. These coaches all know how toxic Auburn is.
Don’t discount the possibility of that rumor coming out.
I thought it was Hugh Freeze’s job for the taking.
Malzahn’s buyout is $21 million, and 50 percent is due within 30 days. Merry Xmas to him!