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So your take on how to win friends and influence people is to insult your client's and by pissing them off and getting under their skin. Like I said earlier appears to be a winning strategy.It has worked well for me, no complaints where my Michigan education has gotten me....are you saying a PSU alum couldn’t handle it?
Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
It's easy to have that attitude when you're always on the winning side of the calls.Watched them all...and...well, I already said how I feel. You go with what makes you happy. It’s a free world.
Being the number one defense because you haven't played anyone with a decent offense is not the same as truly being number one.When you have the #1 defense in the nation, you'll be in every game. Should be a good game, and a low scoring affair. Last I checked, the over/under was 45.5. I'd take the under if I played penn state games. When games are that close and low scoring, it will usually come down to a couple plays here and there. All Michigan needs is for O'Korn to be relatively serviceable and to not turn it over 3+ times. Having watched a bunch of Michigan tape this week, I'm convinced they'll do a great job on the PSU offense. It's just that they'll struggle to put up points too.
First of all, welcome and good post. Don't ever apologize for being a biased fan. We all are. I take issue with very little of what you wrote. Maybe the one thing is the 50/50 ball thing, in part because we've heard it from many others and it's usually a shot at McSorley (not saying that's the case with you). It really isn't a case where he's just throwing it up and hoping his superior athlete can go get it. It's an integral part of the offense. Wisky came into the B1G Championship Game last year with a very strong secondary and McSorley destroyed them. Admittedly, I don't know a lot about UM's secondary but if I'm a UM fan I'd be careful what I wish for when it comes to hoping McSorley throws a lot of deep balls. Things can go south for you very quickly. Looking forward to the game and please continue to post here.
Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
There’s a more than 50% chance that she’ll dump you.it seems to be a hot button with the PSU fan base which I did not realize. Interesting, my client is a PSU alum, I may have to use it on her!
Actually I brought it up because we have picked off a couple of those type of throws already, so contrary to it being a pass that can’t be defended, it is one we have defended quite well so far. It may be different with your athletes. We shall see!
There’s a 50-50 chance that you’ll sleep like crap.Fun discussion, I am turning in. Hope you guys have a great season (except for this Saturday). Take care!
A lot of PSU people feel the deep ball, which you refer to as 50/50 balls, are what is missing from this year's offense. With Michigan's lack of height in the back 7, I expect that to change this week.it seems to be a hot button with the PSU fan base which I did not realize. Interesting, my client is a PSU alum, I may have to use it on her!
Actually I brought it up because we have picked off a couple of those type of throws already, so contrary to it being a pass that can’t be defended, it is one we have defended quite well so far. It may be different with your athletes. We shall see!
I'm afraid your QB hasn't experienced anything like the noise Saturday night. Your D has some great athletes but my guess is our offense will hit the big play more often. I think your underestimating McSorley and our WR size advantage over your DB's. Can't wait. Drove from Atlanta yesterday. Sitting at Ottos drinking and getting ready for some great tailgaiting and a great game. Sunday on to to Steelers and Tuesday the Penguins...GO STATE
I get what you're saying, but by my count (and again, I was no math major) that was actually 6 words.You forgot #6, One word: Beaver Stadium Night Game White Out
As a Michigan fan I wish you'd be right but watching our offense is worse then getting a root canal. O'Korn is a deer in headlights when pressured and never goes through his progressions - locks in every single time. If score enough is 10 then maybe but 10 points vs PSU is not enough. Here's to a great game but I think you've picked wrong again.You are not the only one who thinks Michigan can win. In fact, I predict they will win, 27-23. Your defense is too strong, our quarterback too erratic, our offensive line too average, our field goal kicking too inconsistent. Your offense will score just enough to win.
***DISCLAIMER: I have made 104 incorrect picks in a row, but this week, sadly, I will get it right.
You are not the only one who thinks Michigan can win. In fact, I predict they will win, 27-23. Your defense is too strong, our quarterback too erratic, our offensive line too average, our field goal kicking too inconsistent. Your offense will score just enough to win.
***DISCLAIMER: I have made 104 incorrect picks in a row, but this week, sadly, I will get it right.
That's why you'll never be anything more than Peetz's Pool Boy.Despite your long-winded post, you didn’t actually touch on the reason why scUM could very well exit State College with a win.
A low-scoring game because of two great defenses that involves field goal kicking. My regrettable prediction is that Quinn hits a 45+ yard FG late in the game for the scUM win.
LOL. Ask JoMo about point #5. Beat it.Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have stated mine, can’t change it for the audience...
No mention of zebras?
This is 100% correct.agree that this is a big factor. IF OFF holding is NOT called on UM, and DEF holding is not called on UM (Which they do on every play), then we will have a very hard time winning.
I get what you're saying, but by my count (and again, I was no math major) that was actually 6 words.
Ok Ok, I am a realist and recognize PSU is and should be favored. You have a 40 point per game offense, a Heisman candidate and lead the nation in scoring defense. This is not an attempt to say Michigan should be favored etc. I was just reading a few posts and thought it would be fun to lay out a counter point to some of the talk that the Wolverines only have a 12% chance to win, that it should be a slaughter etc.
Full disclosure, I am a third generation Michigan alum and totally biased in a Maize and Blue kind of way (who better to play devil's advocate to the common opinion on the game?). I would say there are ample reasons to take the Wolverines' chances seriously this Saturday.
Reasons to fear the Maize and Blue
1. The last two years our D-line has won the battle against your O-line. Barkley has had 59 and 69 yards against us due to this. McSorley was sacked 6 times last year and looked.. ahh.. not very..hmmm.. let's just go with "horrible" against us last year. Our D-line is getting better numbers this year. It is not unreasonable for Michigan to win this battle again. If our D line dominates your O-line, it will be extremely difficult for your offense to get anything done, no matter how good Barkley and McSorley are. This really could happen, it is not a fantasy.
2. If it turns into a low scoring game, kickers could make the difference. Quinn Nordin may be the best in the conference. I give Michigan a strong edge here.
3. Michigan's run game showed some life last week. A strong run game is a good cure for our other offensive problems
4. John O'Korn could improve (he really can't get much worse). He was a 3000 yard passer as a freshman at Houston. He has some passing skills. He is not playing well right now, but he has only been the starter for two games. Rudock improved markedly throughout the season as Harbaugh worked with him. If we can get modest production from the QB, it should be enough to win a low scoring game.
5. McSorley likes 50/50 balls.. these work great when a talented receiver goes against an average DB who does not know how to find the ball. Our DB's have been very good at turning around and locating the ball. If the QB throws up a long back shoulder throw, it will get picked. He seems to have dialed it back a little this year but who knows what he will do under the lights.
I get it, there are just as many or more reasons to think Michigan will lose. I am just saying that we are not as far apart as people are saying. Well at least maybe we weren't before we lost our #1 WR and QB. That being said, we are one pass away from having the same record as you (either a drop at Iowa for you or a catch against Sparty for us). I think these two teams are more evenly matched than some think, due to the strength of our defense. Granted QB has been a mess the last two games for us. If it does not improve, we are done, not just for this game, but for the year.
If O'Korn does improve, watch out. I think we have a couple advantages that could help us sing The Victors in Happy Valley. Looking forward to Saturday. The atmosphere should be great and hopefully it will be a fun game to watch. Here's hoping both teams stay healthy.
OK, thanks, sorry, I shouldn't expect everyone to understand the reference.