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Ranking the Big Ten Presidents with respect to their desire to play

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14. Rutgers
Last, as usual.


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With a restart vote coming soon, which Big Ten schools most want to play football? Here’s a ranking.

Let’s take a moment to thank Garrett Snodgrass, Garrett Nelson, Ethan Piper, Noa Pola-Gates, Alante Brown, Brant Banks, Brig Banks and Jackson Hannah.

Those eight Nebraska football players filed a lawsuit against the Big Ten, prompting the conference to defend its decision to delay fall football by revealing its 11-3 vote.

And thanks to sources, we learned that Ohio State, Nebraska and Iowa were in the #LetUsPlay group.

Another vote is pending, and this one could be more complicated. Rutgers might decline to play but still vote “yes” to greenlight a fall or winter schedule. But that could depend on whether Ohio State is willing to share revenue equally.

That’s what school presidents and chancellors are discussing as we head into the first full Saturday of college football. Is it safe to return with so many campuses having paused workouts? Are there certain medical thresholds that must be reached before returning? Will the ‘haves’ play nice with the ‘have-nots’ — and vice versa?

Based on public statements and conversations with sources within the conference, here’s our ranking of the schools that most (and least) want to play.

T1. Nebraska

I’m surprised Scott Frost didn’t join the rally outside Big Ten headquarters and hold up a boombox playing the Nebraska fight song. He did go to Memorial Stadium on what would have been the Huskers' opener, telling the Omaha World-Herald: “I know this institution was capable of playing football and I really believe that’s what is best for the young men.” Athletic director Bill Moos is in concert with Frost, telling the Omaha paper that all 14 ADs favored fall football. Nebraska officials said Thursday that they’re on the cusp of being able to conduct rapid COVID-19 tests.

T1. Ohio State
The Buckeyes are in championship-or-bust mode, so a late-November start is as appealing as a BLT without the bacon. As coach Ryan Day put it in his statement: “We still have an opportunity to give our young men what they have worked so hard for: a chance to safely compete for a national championship this fall.”

3. Iowa
Athletic director Gary Barta dropped a clue regarding his mindset when he said in late May that he would not rule out welcoming a full house to Kinnick Stadium on fall Saturdays. “As long as the virus is here and until a vaccine can be created, there will be risks,” he said. Iowa paused football workouts Aug. 31 after 11 players reportedly tested positive, but the Hawkeyes are back at it.

4. Penn State
President Eric Barron released a generic statement supporting the Big Ten’s Aug. 11 announcement to delay fall sports but has been quiet since. Athletic director Sandy Barbour questioned whether a vote even took place, and coach James Franklin has been vocal in lobbying for football — or at least transparency from the commissioner’s office.

5. Purdue
Within 48 hours of the Aug. 11 announcement, coach Jeff Brohm outlined a plan for an eight-game season beginning Feb. 27 that included postseason play. He since has backed off that timetable, joining “the sooner the better” camp. Purdue President Mitch Daniels released a statement Sept. 1 saying medical advice made it “too uncertain to proceed in good conscience.” Could Daniels be swayed? He is a former Republican governor in a red state.

6. Indiana
Coach Tom Allen is gung-ho about playing, but it’s tough to get a feel for the administration. Athletic director Scott Dolson delivered a stern warning via Zoom to Indiana’s 700 athletes Friday, warning them about a spike in positive tests. The university reported a concerning 7.3% positivity rate across the campus in recent testing. Four teams paused workouts indefinitely Sept. 4, but football was not one of them.

7. Illinois
The Illinois administration is so proud of its advances in rapid saliva testing, nary a Zoom call goes by without a mention. The university imposed a lockdown last week after a surge in cases, but athletic director (and former Illini tight end) Josh Whitman is hoping football returns, telling SI: “We didn’t get a ton of notice when we hit the stop button, and we may not get a ton of notice when we hit the start button again.”

8. Northwestern
Those who assume the egghead school is content to sit out 2020 don’t understand President Morton Schapiro’s passion for sports, especially football. He probably knows the Wildcats' 2-deep as well as Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith knows that of the Buckeyes. Northwestern has been so diligent in its protocols, it paused practice for several days because of one positive test — and that turned out to be a false positive.

9. Wisconsin
The Badgers might want to play, but not for a while. Athletic director Barry Alvarez said Friday on his monthly radio show that Big Ten presidents and chancellors will not approve football until “they feel comfortable that the medical questions … are answered. It’s not some magical date or who does the best lobbying.” Alvarez, who chairs the Big Ten’s Return to Play task force, on Wednesday announced that the football and men’s hockey teams were taking a two-week break from all team activities because of COVID-19 protocols.

10. Michigan
The ultimate clash of science versus football and academia versus athletics is taking place in Ann Arbor, Mich. Unless President and renown antibodies expert Mark Schlissel gets unseated — and fast — he’s expected to win the power struggle with coach Jim Harbaugh. One additional amusing theory making the Big Ten rounds: However Ohio State votes, Michigan will do the opposite.

11. Michigan State
President Samuel Stanley has a medical degree from Harvard, and first-year coach Mel Tucker has a depleted roster with few seniors. You know the saying that all politics is local? Coaches around the conference believe the Spartans have little appetite to suit up in 2020 with the threat of going winless.

12. Maryland
The university suspended all athletic activities Sept. 3 after a spike in COVID-19 cases. In stressing the school’s emphasis on the “health, safety and welfare of our student athletes,” athletic director Damon Evans borrowed a line from Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren.

13. Minnesota
Coach P.J. Fleck said that after the Aug. 11 decision was made, he sought the opinion of his Gophers. “Every player has said the Big Ten made the right decision,” he said. If the garrulous Fleck had done a 180 by now, we probably would have heard about it. Plus the Gophers are in a pro-science state.

14. Rutgers
Last, as usual. Or, for those who believe playing football during a pandemic is foolish, the Scarlet Knights are first. School President Jonathan Holloway came out strong in an NJ Advance Media story, saying the conference should wait until it can “learn about the science, different kinds of tests and potential vaccines.” And he called President Donald Trump’s involvement in the Big Ten “cheap politics.”
 
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10. Michigan
The ultimate clash of science versus football and academia versus athletics is taking place in Ann Arbor, Mich. Unless President and renown antibodies expert Mark Schlissel gets unseated — and fast — he’s expected to win the power struggle with coach Jim Harbaugh. One additional amusing theory making the Big Ten rounds: However Ohio State votes, Michigan will do the opposite.
yeah, because let's listen to Hairball instead of to an actual doctor
 
"Plus the Gophers are in a pro-science state."

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“the Gophers are in a pro-science state.” What is an anti-science state? Does the science definitively say that football poses a big COVID risk to college age players? And is the question of whether to play football a purely scientific question or one that involves scientific, economic, and philosophical inputs?
 
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“the Gophers are in a pro-science state.” What is an anti-science state? Does the science definitively say that football poses a big COVID risk to college age players? And is the question of whether to play football a purely scientific question or one that involves scientific, economic, and philosophical inputs?

Maybe a coalition of 3M, Ecolab, and Cargill will influence the vote to play.
 
I would bet my dog's house that Rutgers would vote no. They are the doormat of the BIG. The head coach was probably begging their decision body not to play back in March. Please, Please its way to dangerous sir. Of course Michigan has taken up the same stance because they just don't have the heart to get rid of Jimmy Joe when he gets the shiit slapped out of them again by Ohio State. Some of these decisions being made are not soley being made on protecting the health of the kids, etc... SEE ABOVE
 
I've read Teddy for 30 years going back to his days at the Daily Northwestern. A gifted, entertaining writer for sure, but still an NU attitude (of being smarter than everyone else).

His "pro science state" equates to those shut down states/governors (Illinois, NJ, Michigan, Minnesota) who constantly trumpet "the science, the science, the science" while killing their state's economies and small businesses.
 
I would bet my dog's house that Rutgers would vote no. They are the doormat of the BIG. The head coach was probably begging their decision body not to play back in March. Please, Please its way to dangerous sir. Of course Michigan has taken up the same stance because they just don't have the heart to get rid of Jimmy Joe when he gets the shiit slapped out of them again by Ohio State. Some of these decisions being made are not soley being made on protecting the health of the kids, etc... SEE ABOVE
Hey don’t bust balls on Schiano at Rutgers. The guy is a genius, because nobody has ever made as much money as him for not coaching. Tampa Bay fired him and payed him millions never to coach there again. The Tennessee fiasco ended up with him receiving more millions not to coach. And now with COVID combined with the Rutgers Presidents stance their going to pay him millions not to coach. It’s the old all pay no work scam.
 
Hey don’t bust balls on Schiano at Rutgers. The guy is a genius, because nobody has ever made as much money as him for not coaching. Tampa Bay fired him and payed him millions never to coach there again. The Tennessee fiasco ended up with him receiving more millions not to coach. And now with COVID combined with the Rutgers Presidents stance their going to pay him millions not to coach. It’s the old all pay no work scam.
Anybody know if he was getting the extra $600 a week through this? If he was I'm going to be jacked for sure!
 
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“the Gophers are in a pro-science state.” What is an anti-science state? Does the science definitively say that football poses a big COVID risk to college age players? And is the question of whether to play football a purely scientific question or one that involves scientific, economic, and philosophical inputs?

Yeah, that was a strange one given that the tug of war here is politics pulling one way to not play, and a lack of science and data that supports the notion of not playing pulling the other way.

So, if there were such a thing as a state that puts science/data over politics, and that had any effect on the Presidents of B1G schools within said state, those presidents would not support a postponement of the season.

Odd mention by the author. Almost like he/she is yet another member of the media that is illiterate about science.
 
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“the Gophers are in a pro-science state.” What is an anti-science state? Does the science definitively say that football poses a big COVID risk to college age players? And is the question of whether to play football a purely scientific question or one that involves scientific, economic, and philosophical inputs?

Think the science says COVID poses a significant risk to a certain part of the population, and that college football players, while unlikely to die from the virus, are as capable as anyone of getting and spreading it.
 
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Think the science says COVID poses a significant risk to a certain part of the population, and that college football players, while unlikely to die from the virus, are as capable as anyone of getting and spreading it.

And I think you are correct - Without pairing it with a heavy dose of political spin, there is no science that supports organizing and practicing the game of football, but not playing actual games.
 
Didn't want to start a new thread, but SI.com now has a Big Ten Vote Live Blog (SIAP):


BLOOMINGTON, Ind. — Sunday is a huge day for the Big Ten, as the league's presidents and chancellors are meeting to discuss a return of fall football sometime soon.

There is news coming from a variety of sources, but we will use this LIVE BLOG to put it all in one spot for you. There's a lot going on, in regards to reviewing new medical reports, discussing the financial impact of missing out on a fall season and more details about what's going on with testing and protocols on each of their 14 campuses.

We will continue to update this blog through the day, so please refresh it when you can and share it with your friends.

Here's the latest:

Tom Brew: Playing into December?

1:54 p.m. Sunday: Just doing the calendar math, if the Big Ten decides to play an eight-game schedule starting on Oct. 17, Week 8 would be Saturday, Dec. 5. That's the date for the Big Ten Championship Game right now. Move it back a week, and we're all good?

Keep in mind, too, that second Big Ten schedule, which was conference games only, was for 10 games, six within the division and four others. Now it would be just two crossover games. Assume the Indiana-Purdue game stays intact, there would be just one other Big Ten West foe.

Jeff Potrykus, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 'Start season Oct. 17'

12:45 p.m. Sunday: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Jeff Potrykus is reporting that Big Ten officials are planning on the presidents voting to start the season on Oct. 17.


"From early this AM: The polls remain open but B1G officials are projecting the Council of Presidents/Chancellors will vote to get football up and running on Oct. 17.''
 
So almost every school in the country is listening to their coach and not doctors...only those that choose not to play are listening to doctors....got it.

you got that right. there is no clear "science" that provides a clear and certain answer. ask someone what they mean by "science" sometime, and you will find most cannot even describe what they mean. I have done it, and literally got a much mouthed response.

"science" and "data" two very over used words. nobody gets to claim "science" is on their side.
 
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