At the time they stopped play, yes, we were about a 6-seed. 2-3 weeks before that we were a 2-seed. That is trending down. And an 8-9 seed in a P5 conference is near the bubble.
Pat Chambers Stepping Down
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At the time they stopped play, yes, we were about a 6-seed. 2-3 weeks before that we were a 2-seed. That is trending down. And an 8-9 seed in a P5 conference is near the bubble.
That’s pretty much all he does actually
I know of reaves very well, he's one of my favorite PSU hoopers to watch. I was pretty big on him when he first came out of Oak Hill. That being said, official tweets mentioned that he, specifically, was interviewed as part of this probe
I have to agree with you, so I’m curious what happened after that. Probably wouldn’t have had to have been much.
I still believe in the premise of innocent until proven guilty. So show me what turned up in the investigation that makes him a bad guy, and I’ll change my mind. But I have a hard time believing that in 2020 this ‘previously unknown allegation’ was that bad and I find it hard to believe an investigation has been ongoing the last however many months without a leak of some serious wrongdoing
But see, even you are suggesting that this was not a justified move. And you're suggesting the burden is on ME to prove to YOU that the investigation yielded bad stuff.
No. I'm not suggesting anything. All I want is for somebody to use evidence to inform their argument.
A lot of people here appear to have their mind made up about this. I find that odd considering it seems as though nobody here knows shit.
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a lot of kids did not like Joe while they were at PSU and for some period after they left. With age and wisdom, they grew to understand and appreciate him.
I've spent a moment or two in a courtroom -- I understand the premise
I also understand the value of having evidence to support an argument. And that includes the argument that Pat Chambers was unfairly run out of town.
You have zero evidence to support that. Those who claim he's guilty have zero evidence to support that, either.
Please re-read my posts. I'm taking neither side. I do ask people to back up their arguments with evidence.
So I'll politely ask again. What did the investigation find? Because the way many are responding, you all appear to have that information.
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Normally, yes you are correct. As we come upon the anniversary of 11/9/11, we must remember that innocence and due process have nothing to do with the situation. People want heads/sacrificial lambs and they’re darn well going to get one.
The evidence is watching and listening to him for the last decade. In 2020, there are no secrets. I don’t believe that’s some serious incident happened, it was investigated, and they manage to keep it all quiet the entire time. We’ll see, but I’m comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt until new evidence says otherwiseI've spent a moment or two in a courtroom -- I understand the premise
I also understand the value of having evidence to support an argument. And that includes the argument that Pat Chambers was unfairly run out of town.
You have zero evidence to support that. Those who claim he's guilty have zero evidence to support that, either.
Please re-read my posts. I'm taking neither side. I do ask people to back up their arguments with something other than rantings about "pussification", though.
Oh, I don't disagree.......he certainly strikes me as a decent guy. And it's perfectly fine to take a wait-and-see approach. That's where I'm at.
But I'm posing this question to those who are adamant that this is all a bunch of PC, snowflake nonsense. We just don't know that. We can assume based on what we know about Chambers. But we don't know.
CJF faced these allegations not long ago, and the university certainly stood by him. The truth ultimately came out, and it was clear that the allegations were shit. Let's see where this one takes us.
so you weren't at the game when he shoved a player? That falls under a long fuse? or....it only happened one time? or .....that's acceptable?
It's not required by PSU to release every detail to explain why Pat resigned. We know the same amount of details that you know. Obviously, Pat and the administration knew the details and Pat resigned......so why should we not think the proof is in the pudding? I think it's fair to say the administration felt that Pat's actions put them in an untenable situation. You can say that you want all the facts, but be careful what you wish for. If all the facts come to light it might not be a good look for PSU and/or Pat.
Never said it was acceptable. Losing it one time isn't having a short fuse. Bobby Knight had a short fuse. Chambers not even close.
At the time they stopped play? That was in the B1G tournament. Even if they lost the first game, they were a lock for a 5 or 6 seed. They were nowhere near the bubble. They lost some games because their second leading scorer was out with an illness for a couple weeks. And was just getting back in game shape when the season ended.
But killing it off would create a negative not a positive. So that would not create more money to put into anything, it would create less.
I don't know if it is crossing the line or not, but during a baseball game where we were getting blown out and moping as a team during our at-bat in the dugout, our coach had us look down, reach in the waistband of our pants, and pull it outward. He yelled, "If you have two nuts down there then stop acting like a bunch of f..king pussies!" I found it funny at the time.
Curious... Why is it highly inappropriate?
This entire board is full of comments and characterizations exactly like this. It part humor and it’s part making a statement that will have impact on the players. Just say “C’mon players, try harder” just doesn’t have the zest and zeal needed to cause change.
We're going to see transfers - especially with this season being an eligibility mulligan, and the looming change in favor of immediate eligibility for transfers. We're probably also going to see the 2021 commits decide not to sign their LOIs in the fall signing period. Not sure why any recruit who committed to Chambers would decide to lock themselves in knowing that a change is coming in the spring.
If Chambers’ treatment of the players was so bad they had to fire him, I would think the players would definitely want to stay now that he’s gone.
It's a sad, sad day. I had been a part of that community for 20 years now... it was unlike any other online sports community that I have been part of. I guess that is 2020 for ya
Some will leave because he's gone. Some will leave for greener pastures. Some will leave due to uncertainty with who the next coach will be. Some may not like State College/PSU and use this opportunity to transfer. Regardless, some of the best young players will leave.
that is some hilarious revisionist history. Penn State was in the first 25 in the tourney last year. ESPN had them as the dark horse to win it all. No need to make stuff up.
If everyone here adhered to that advice, there would be no BWI McAndrew Board.
so you imply that Pat was about to make a run at a national title, but I'm the one engaging in "revisionist history"?
