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Great guy. Would love to see him do well. Only three QBs in camp so he is at least on the team for the year.
And if Love misses any time…….🤷
That’s a good possibility but even then Sean will know the system and have the advantage.I wonder if that has more to do with avoiding QB controversy with the young QB than preference. I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a qb closer to the season beginning.
Could be, but the Clifford we saw in the Rose Bowl looks like a guy who could play in the league. Something seemed to change. Maybe a light went off in his head, maybe he was battling through injury. Maybe someone bet him that he couldn't play like that and he had to show them that he can. I have no idea. If he continues that trajectory he'll catch on somewhere.I wonder if that has more to do with avoiding QB controversy with the young QB than preference. I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a qb closer to the season beginning.
That’s a real good living.I liked the guy but in all likelihood he's a career backup in the NFL.
Great guy. Would love to see him do well. Only three QBs in camp so he is at least on the team for the year.
And if Love misses any time…….🤷
Completely agree. I would love to be in that position myself.That’s a real good living.
Certainly is. Imagine starting your regular life with a $2.8M head start. (or more)That’s a real good living.
Probably, but people didn't expect much of Brock Purdy, either. And most didn't think Clifford would even get a shot at the NFL.I liked the guy but in all likelihood he's a career backup in the NFL.
Better than not being in the league at all.I liked the guy but in all likelihood he's a career backup in the NFL.
Stranger things have happened and it couldn't happen to a better person. The way Clifford played at his best -- Rose Bowl being the best example -- he could be very, very good. You wonder what kind of career he would have had at Penn State with just a better-than-average Big Ten offensive line.
There are worse things than making millions carrying a clipboard. Ask Chad HenneI liked the guy but in all likelihood he's a career backup in the NFL.
Or maybe he was better than the HVCAC gave him credit for. Perhaps that's why CJF And 3 OC's kept running him out there, to the dismay of so many experts here.Could be, but the Clifford we saw in the Rose Bowl looks like a guy who could play in the league. Something seemed to change. Maybe a light went off in his head, maybe he was battling through injury. Maybe someone bet him that he couldn't play like that and he had to show them that he can. I have no idea. If he continues that trajectory he'll catch on somewhere.
Could be, but the Clifford we saw in the Rose Bowl looks like a guy who could play in the league. Something seemed to change. Maybe a light went off in his head, maybe he was battling through injury. Maybe someone bet him that he couldn't play like that and he had to show them that he can. I have no idea. If he continues that trajectory he'll catch on somewhere.
Yep, I'd accept that job any day!That’s a real good living.
He also had a tendency to take a full quarter of play to settle down. He was often his own worst enemy out there. I liked and appreciated Clifford, but let’s not rewrite his history.Stranger things have happened and it couldn't happen to a better person. The way Clifford played at his best -- Rose Bowl being the best example -- he could be very, very good. You wonder what kind of career he would have had at Penn State with just a better-than-average Big Ten offensive line.
Wish him well.I liked the guy but in all likelihood he's a career backup in the NFL.
Durability is my question. He is not that big, I saw him up close at the Rose Bowl. He is smart enough, hope he can hang around the league for years and collect his NFL pension while building wealth.Could be, but the Clifford we saw in the Rose Bowl looks like a guy who could play in the league. Something seemed to change. Maybe a light went off in his head, maybe he was battling through injury. Maybe someone bet him that he couldn't play like that and he had to show them that he can. I have no idea. If he continues that trajectory he'll catch on somewhere.
I think that Sean could at least be a John Wofford type of back up and get some PT in an emergency. Looks like Wofford will be hitting the NFL pension lottery. Plus he got to live and play in LA out of college. My son was wearing a Wake sweatshirt at a house party in Venice Beach and Wofford chatted him up. Life was grand....He also had a tendency to take a full quarter of play to settle down. He was often his own worst enemy out there. I liked and appreciated Clifford, but let’s not rewrite his history.
Well, I'm certain he wouldn't want us to rewrite his history too much. He is the most prolific quarterback in the history of Penn State football.He also had a tendency to take a full quarter of play to settle down. He was often his own worst enemy out there. I liked and appreciated Clifford, but let’s not rewrite his history.
However you phrase it....he didn't deserve the crap he took at PSU. Hard to forget the geniuses who insisted that he was of no value....merely in Allar's way.Well, I'm certain he wouldn't want us to rewrite his history too much. He is the most prolific quarterback in the history of Penn State football.
No doubt about it. He was a terrific quarterback.However you phrase it....he didn't deserve the crap he took at PSU. Hard to forget the geniuses who insisted that he was of no value....merely in Allar's way.
To be fair, many just wanted Allar to play to get playing experience for 2023 after we lost our second game. Unfortunately in FBS 2 losses ends your season 99 times out of 100.However you phrase it....he didn't deserve the crap he took at PSU. Hard to forget the geniuses who insisted that he was of no value....merely in Allar's way.
Yep, he could be infuriating. He had stretches almost every game where he'd lose focus - how many times was PSU starting to take control of a game when Clifford would press and throw into coverage downfield rather than take an easy 6-7 yard completion. He did play with more consistency last part of 2022 season.He also had a tendency to take a full quarter of play to settle down. He was often his own worst enemy out there. I liked and appreciated Clifford, but let’s not rewrite his history.
He was great against Michigan State and Utah but even against Rutgers and Maryland I wouldn't say he was consistent. Thankfully we dominated both those games so he didn't need to be great but I do think that's the biggest concern with Clifford--consistency.Yep, he could be infuriating. He had stretches almost every game where he'd lose focus - how many times was PSU starting to take control of a game when Clifford would press and throw into coverage downfield rather than take an easy 6-7 yard completion. He did play with more consistency last part of 2022 season.
Someone forgot to give 85 PSU players the memo that fanboys declared their season over. Who would the teams destained to make the CFP play if every team quit after 2 loses?To be fair, many just wanted Allar to play to get playing experience for 2023 after we lost our second game. Unfortunately in FBS 2 losses ends your season 99 times out of 100.
Someone forgot to give 85 PSU players the memo that fanboys declared their season over. Who would the teams destained to make the CFP play if every team quit after 2 loses?
I think the BWICAC should have the privilege of explaining to a team that the rest of the season is meaningful only to prepare players for "next year." LOL ...Fanboys are special.Not to mention momentum is a real thing, both on the field and in recruiting. Going into the offseason coming off 11-2 and a Rose Bowl win over Utah has this team riding significantly higher than if they'd dropped an additional couple games breaking in younger guys and wrapping up the season in the Mayonnaise bowl against some ACC also ran to finish 9-4/8-5.
I think the BWICAC should have the privilege of explaining to a team that the rest of the season is meaningful only to prepare players for "next year." LOL ...Fanboys are special.
That's the problem with FBS today.Someone forgot to give 85 PSU players the memo that fanboys declared their season over. Who would the teams destained to make the CFP play if every team quit after 2 loses?
There's no data that supports thisNot to mention momentum is a real thing, both on the field and in recruiting. Going into the offseason coming off 11-2 and a Rose Bowl win over Utah has this team riding significantly higher than if they'd dropped an additional couple games breaking in younger guys and wrapping up the season in the Mayonnaise bowl against some ACC also ran to finish 9-4/8-5.
Fanboys doesn't even make senseI think the BWICAC should have the privilege of explaining to a team that the rest of the season is meaningful only to prepare players for "next year." LOL ...Fanboys are special.
If Allar got meaningful playing time last year would he be more prepared for WVU?
Right--if I was the coach I would have done that and I'm sure it would have upset seniors but I'm not worried about that. Recruits won't be thinking about "when I'm a senior I might get benched" they'll see it as a chance to play early. We're going to start seeing this happen more and more. We just won't be the team that starts that.Sure.
How do you tell the seniors that you are pissing on the current season and going with the youth movement?
Why stop at Allar? Why not bench Scruggs, Strange, JPJ, and Tig since none of them will be there in '23?
It was never a problem when our fanboys went undefeated on Maddon.Sure.
How do you tell the seniors that you are pissing on the current season and going with the youth movement?
Why stop at Allar? Why not bench Scruggs, Strange, JPJ, and Tig since none of them will be there in '23?
Not a problem. If he shits the bed, you bench him and get the team ready for next year. 😏Fanboys doesn't even make sense
If Allar got meaningful playing time last year would he be more prepared for WVU?