havent made a payment to state in 3 years. But somehow PA has a huge gas tax and second most expensive turnpike.
Corrupt state.
Corrupt state.
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havent made a payment to state in 3 years. But somehow PA has a huge gas tax and second most expensive turnpike.
Corrupt state.
havent made a payment to state in 3 years. But somehow PA has a huge gas tax and second most expensive turnpike.
Corrupt state.
It’s a sneaky way politicians do business. They don’t want to raise property and state taxes (understandably) so they push it off via a turnpike tax or gas tax. Awful.This isn't just a PA problem. It is the same issue that will take down every state and the federal government.
Government spending more than it earns. And while deficits are OK, they aren't if they are too big.
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It’s a sneaky way politicians do business. They don’t want to raise property and state taxes (understandably) so they push it off via a turnpike tax or gas tax. Awful.
havent made a payment to state in 3 years. But somehow PA has a huge gas tax and second most expensive turnpike.
Corrupt state.
yeah...just awful. There is a ton of revenue the state brings in from tolls and gas tax. no reason for this.It’s a sneaky way politicians do business. They don’t want to raise property and state taxes (understandably) so they push it off via a turnpike tax or gas tax. Awful.
That's what I have heard. That $ should be fenced in the budget.Corrupt is right. I've heard stories my whole life about the turnpike commission being treated as a personal piggy bank by some of the bigwigs. Also kickbacks, nepotism, and self-dealing are SOP. The turnpike makes the Penn State BOT look like a bunch of amateurs.
I haven't used it for awhile but the rest stops were very clean and nice private showers.Compared to the wretched Howard Johnsons Pa used to have the misery factor was a ten.yeah...just awful. There is a ton of revenue the state brings in from tolls and gas tax. no reason for this.
In Ohio, they sold the approval for a state lottery by stating the revenue would go strait to schools and had a bunch of adds with smiling little kids to tug at your heart strings. When it was passed, they immediately fed that revenue into the school budget but then took out of the general budget the exact same amount. Net/net, the schools had no increase in funding at all but the politicos said that they kept their promises; the money went to schools (they just didn't tell you the funding they'd cut from the general fund).
yeah...just awful. There is a ton of revenue the state brings in from tolls and gas tax. no reason for this.
In Ohio, they sold the approval for a state lottery by stating the revenue would go strait to schools and had a bunch of adds with smiling little kids to tug at your heart strings. When it was passed, they immediately fed that revenue into the school budget but then took out of the general budget the exact same amount. Net/net, the schools had no increase in funding at all but the politicos said that they kept their promises; the money went to schools (they just didn't tell you the funding they'd cut from the general fund).
"Delaware River Port Authority"PA Turnpike is bad but bush league compared to the Delaware Port Authority - they are the big leagues of corruption, nepotism, insider dealing and outright theft.
"Delaware River Port Authority"
I haven't used it for awhile but the rest stops were very clean and nice private showers.Compared to the wretched Howard Johnsons Pa used to have the misery factor was a ten.
This isn't just a PA problem. It is the same issue that will take down every state and the federal government.
Government spending more than it earns. And while deficits are OK, they aren't if they are too big.
Does SEPTA even realize that they ALREADY have the Norristown High Speed Line running through KoP? It's been there for 100 years running between 69th St and Main Street Norristown in front of the courthouse.Plans for a train line to King of Prussia are moving forward. How to pay for it remains a huge question mark
by Jason Laughlin, Updated: March 4, 2019
The proposed King of Prussia rail project promises transit access to one of the region’s biggest job centers, an economic boost — and a bill of about $1.2 billion that planners aren’t quite sure how they’ll pay.
Making the rail real will require “many sources of funding," said Elizabeth Smith, SEPTA’s manager of long-term planning. A federal grant will almost certainly be necessary, but that will pay for half the cost, at most. Funding the balance remains an open question, but one that needs an answer. SEPTA may begin pursuing federal money as soon as 2021.
There are big obstacles to the project, though. State officials say their ability to contribute money may be limited, and a lawsuit that challenges the very core of how public transit is funded in Pennsylvania could derail the project entirely.
“Right now, the reality is, we’re not in a position to dedicate new funding to new projects,” said Jennie Granger, the state Transportation Department’s deputy secretary for multi-modal transportation. “We’re looking at how we regain our current funding, just at that, not at expansion projects.”
link: https://www.philly.com/transportati...a-train-norristown-upper-merion-20190304.html
Plans for a train line to King of Prussia are moving forward. How to pay for it remains a huge question mark
by Jason Laughlin, Updated: March 4, 2019
The proposed King of Prussia rail project promises transit access to one of the region’s biggest job centers, an economic boost — and a bill of about $1.2 billion that planners aren’t quite sure how they’ll pay.
Making the rail real will require “many sources of funding," said Elizabeth Smith, SEPTA’s manager of long-term planning. A federal grant will almost certainly be necessary, but that will pay for half the cost, at most. Funding the balance remains an open question, but one that needs an answer. SEPTA may begin pursuing federal money as soon as 2021.
There are big obstacles to the project, though. State officials say their ability to contribute money may be limited, and a lawsuit that challenges the very core of how public transit is funded in Pennsylvania could derail the project entirely.
“Right now, the reality is, we’re not in a position to dedicate new funding to new projects,” said Jennie Granger, the state Transportation Department’s deputy secretary for multi-modal transportation. “We’re looking at how we regain our current funding, just at that, not at expansion projects.”
link: https://www.philly.com/transportati...a-train-norristown-upper-merion-20190304.html
Plans for a train line to King of Prussia are moving forward. How to pay for it remains a huge question mark
by Jason Laughlin, Updated: March 4, 2019
The proposed King of Prussia rail project promises transit access to one of the region’s biggest job centers, an economic boost — and a bill of about $1.2 billion that planners aren’t quite sure how they’ll pay.
Making the rail real will require “many sources of funding," said Elizabeth Smith, SEPTA’s manager of long-term planning. A federal grant will almost certainly be necessary, but that will pay for half the cost, at most. Funding the balance remains an open question, but one that needs an answer. SEPTA may begin pursuing federal money as soon as 2021.
There are big obstacles to the project, though. State officials say their ability to contribute money may be limited, and a lawsuit that challenges the very core of how public transit is funded in Pennsylvania could derail the project entirely.
“Right now, the reality is, we’re not in a position to dedicate new funding to new projects,” said Jennie Granger, the state Transportation Department’s deputy secretary for multi-modal transportation. “We’re looking at how we regain our current funding, just at that, not at expansion projects.”
link: https://www.philly.com/transportati...a-train-norristown-upper-merion-20190304.html
The Johnstown Flood Tax has that beat - started in 1936 and still going strong.The PA turnpike was supposed to become a free road once the original debt was paid. That was supposed to be some time in the early 50's, if I recall.
Perhaps they meant the early 2050's?
It will only become a free road when conditions deteriorate to Mad Max level.The PA turnpike was supposed to become a free road once the original debt was paid. That was supposed to be some time in the early 50's, if I recall.
Perhaps they meant the early 2050's?
Well, if pa politicians were smart, they’d just tax the rich now before the federal government does. A 70% tax would go a long way to make up the shortfalls. Of course, given the size of pa vis a vis the United States, the tax would have to begin at all incomes over $50,000. Sarcasm, by the wayHARRISBURG, Pa. —
Updated: 8:08 AM EST Mar 5, 201
The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission is about $11 billion in debt and caught up in an ongoing lawsuit.
PennDOT secretary Leslie Richards admitted the PA Turnpike Commission is behind on payments to the state.
Turnpike tolls paid by drivers are supposed to go toward a $450 million payment to the state for transit projects annually.
Richards said for the past three years, the payment has been missed.
The fourth payment, which is due next month, may also be missed.
A lawsuit has been filed, arguing that the state is violating federal law by using toll money for non-turnpike-related projects.
Those who filed the lawsuit want PennDOT to refund the $6 billion the PA Turnpike Commission has sent them since 2007.
If the PA Turnpike Commission loses the lawsuit, cuts will have to be made.
While officials say it would be catastrophic, they are discussing what filing for bankruptcy would mean for the turnpike.
And what was the state willing to give to Amazon as part of it's HQ2 proposal?
As an aside, anyone know how much the folks in Breezewood pay their elected officials to keep the I70 > Turnpike interchange running through their 'town'?
The abandon Green Stamp thru Breezewood does make an excellent bike path. I was going to comment on Breezewood earlier, but now that you did, here’s a great article.And what was the state willing to give to Amazon as part of it's HQ2 proposal?
As an aside, anyone know how much the folks in Breezewood pay their elected officials to keep the I70 > Turnpike interchange running through their 'town'?
Why is the turnpike turning money over to the state? The toll money should be used for maintaining or improving the turnpike.
The gas tax should be spent on roads and bridges, rather than toll roads, mass transit, parks, and trails.
All of this commingling of funds results in money being pi$$ed away.
And what was the state willing to give to Amazon as part of it's HQ2 proposal?
As an aside, anyone know how much the folks in Breezewood pay their elected officials to keep the I70 > Turnpike interchange running through their 'town'?
Now that Amazon is not comingThe Amazon deal was reportedly for tax breaks of $4.6B (state) and an additional $1.1B (local).
The abandon Green Stamp thru Breezewood does make an excellent bike path. I was going to comment on Breezewood earlier, but now that you did, here’s a great article.
link:
https://uncoveringpa.com/abandoned-pa-turnpike
Now that Amazon is not coming
Why not take that money and fix the roads with it?