Don’t remember that one, but you had to go back to 95 to find one in our favor and there was no replay to overturn it (which it sounds like they would have with replay)….I can go back to last year and find one that went against us with replay.
Michigan and refs, now this is funny
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#Michigan is one of the most screwed teams by the refs and this proves it.
247Sports lists two Michigan games as being the most controversial in CFB
#Michigan is one of the most screwed teams by the refs and this proves it.www.yahoo.com
I used to believe that until I had the "pleasure" of watching B1G Refs, like "Crooked Walk" Whitovet, "just be glad your playing" John O'Neil and "I have a Michigan Helmet on my bookcase" Dick Honig.
When Illinois with Juice Williams beat OSU there way a long pass or pass and run that took the Illini deep into OSU territory. Runner fumbled and was recovered by OSU. Not called a fumble and not reversed upon review.
Just didn't want you waiting forever.
The officials appeared to miss 2 calls on that play. The center of attention PI, but also a seemingly hands to the face by the tOSU left tackle on the PSU end rusher. I believe if you have a clip of the whole play that both would be noticeable.You mean like the pass interference late in the 2016 game that wasn’t called?
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See below. I may not have the greatest eyes, but at 15:41 he easily has a toe down and already has the ball in his hands and his body turning. At 15:54 his foot is shown within the field of play for the same play.
The guy who fumbled was Daniel Dufrene. And it was a very clear and obvious fumble, which I believe OSU recovered in the end zone (or the ball went through the end zone out of bounds, which would have resulted in a change of possession -- don't remember which).
Either way, I'm all for it. That win sent Illinois to the Rose Bowl and knocked OSU from their #1 spot.
But no doubt about it, it was a terrible call.
Because the media focused on a single hand picked play from the game and not the whole game. Fans from all over loved to point this out over the years.
If one is familiar with the complete game, one would realize that the officials were consistent about how many feet had to be down within the field of play for a ruling of a completed reception.
I've watched the entire game many times. But even McCloskey admitted afterward he wasn't in bounds. And regardless of how the refs called the prior 59 minutes and 45 seconds, that call pretty much gave us a win -- and thus a national title.
Of course, bad calls happen throughout the course of a game, but people naturally remember the big ones that happen in key moments. That was as key a moment as they come.
But as McCloskey himself said years later, it was a pre-emptive make up for the 1994 screw job. Neb fans say 1994 was payback for the '82 screw job.
The sooner folks here just admit that everyone hates us, the more peaceful your lives will be.
The one go to for OSU….that’s the only call any OSU fan can ever think of…we have gotten more than that in one game.
That’s obvious…no team has been screwed out of as many NC’s as we have.
Watched the 1985 PSU/Alabama game last night on btn. Very few penalties but when there was, the refs were very forceful and demonstrative. Every call the refs made was made with meaning. Better than any officiated game I have seen since joining the big one.
You're right -- definitely a good toe tap for Engram. Goes to show what age does......I just recall remembering how close that call was, and when I went back to the Youtube video to check (see the 6:35 mark below), it sure seemed like he caught it out of bounds. Even the crowd reaction was a bit mixed.
Hell, I didn't even bring up how badly Pat F. was mugged during the 2019 OSU when Levis threw that horrible pick.....Still too pissed at Rahne for attempting to throw the ball when Levis and Co was running it down their throats (God, Rahne loved to go away from the run when it worked)....
Kind of supports my point…when I talk about missed calls, I don’t mean ones that could go either way. I’m talking about completely blown calls, like many of the calls against us when we play OSU. Also last year at Indiana. I work with a guy who played for Indiana in 87….in fact he had the key play in their big win over Michigan that year. He even said they blew the call in OT. And they blew it with replay. I know snap judgement calls can go either way, but when the bulk of the really blown calls go against you over the years, it can’t be accidental.
It is hard to fathom a Penn State fan who was following the games back then and wasn’t completely convinced that Dick Honig, David Witvoet, Bill LeMonnier and Dave Parry were crooked referines.
They are the reason why Joe Paterno twisted Jim Delany’s arm to allow instant replay in the Big Ten.
I’m not sure which referine was better — the one who was found to be legally blind or the one whose actual will asked people to forgo flowers at his funeral in lieu of donations to the Univ of Michigan.
They are the reason why Joe Paterno twisted Jim Delany’s arm to allow instant replay in the Big Ten.
I’m not sure which referine was better — the one who was found to be legally blind or the one whose actual will asked people to forgo flowers at his funeral in lieu of donations to the Univ of Michigan.
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2002 Tony Johnson ruled out of bounds was bad, but Avent Heel toe was even worse.
Well, all of College Football was changed with the addition of replay because of such concerns - so yes, I would say the concerns are legit.
Agreed…But nothing was more obvious than the TD ruled a fumble at Nebraska…daylight robbery.
These clowns delegitimize college football - they are that bad.
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Like when we recovered a Nebraska fumbled but the refs said a clear lateral was a forward pass?
Watch the replay, McCloskey wasn’t looking down at his feet to know. He also made that comment at a Nebraska booster event. Perhaps he wanted to get out alive.
Which makes it even worse when you get shafted and they still don’t make the right call.
I’m sure every team can point to a handful of “screw jobs” over the past 20 years. How many have enough to fill a library AND lead to a huge rule change??
Come on ... Tony was clearly out of bounds!
And as for you people complaining about the 2014 O$U game, I don't know what you're talking about.
10 points. Basically, the difference in the game.Come on ... Tony was clearly out of bounds!
And as for you people complaining about the 2014 O$U game, I don't know what you're talking about.
The problem is when it seems systematic.
Like I stated previously, I can tolerate the recent officiating. The call to end the IN game last year was wrong but close enough for me to say win some/lose some. The targeting call to banish our last linebacker against MI was BS but perhaps the rules were confusing. OSU will always provide reffing lowlights but i guess I have learned to live with some things there.
From the time we joined the B10 to instant replay and the retirement of some OG refs, it was every week. When you are more interested in the ref crew than the starting QB before the game, something is wrong. And it wasn’t all in my head. There too many examples of ”hard” game changing calls and ”soft” game influencing calls to list or to argue.
I never claimed otherwise.
I disagree with this. While the call certainly made things less difficult, the play itself and the result of it were not definitive (i.e. a 4th/5th down, turnover, score, etc.) themselves. Had it been called correctly, it would have been 3rd and 5 from inside thee 18-yd line with 0:09 left. I won't guarantee they score, but I'm not Nostradamus, and neither is anyone else, to know what would have happened. There was plenty of time for two more plays.
In addition, I don't agree with regardless of how the rest of the game was called. Late in the 3rd Qtr with PSU lined up inside the NU 40, the officials ruled that Jon Williams caught and fumbled a pass without ever having one of his feet touch the ground. The actual telecast of the game showed this replay multiple times.
Without using the benefit of knowing what happened afterwards, a mis-called turnover has more impact on a drive than a mis-called first down ruling on a 2nd and 5 play.
Good call on the Jon Williams non-catch non-fumble. It was 2nd and 10 from NU's 38 yard line. Even by those days relatively loose catch/no-catch requirements I don't know how you call that a catch and fumble. PSU was marching and could have gone up by two scores very late in the 3rd quarter.
Aren't we always told "they even out"?! Check it out at the 1:54:49 mark. The one announcer thought it might have been a lateral, which it clearly was not.
